Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:
Sri Venkata Gurave Nama:
Dear Sri Satyananaraya Swamin,
I read with interest your post on Vaishnavism and Brahmanism.
Though I agree with most of our observations, I need to clarify
that what you stated about Veidika dharma and Sri Vaishnavism is
not exactly as per the observations of our Poorvacharyas.
You wrote?
"brahminic activities such as sandhya vadanam, Gayatri mantra etc
do not find a spot in Vaishnavism. It has a role in the Veidika
dharma.:
Clarification:
I would like to clarify how our Acharyas have opined on this. Let us
start from Geethacharyan.
1, Srimad Bhagavat Gita (Chapter 3,Verses 30-33)- Refer
Emperumanar's Bhasya
Both Sri Ramanuja and Sri Nigamantha Desikan have clarified that
doing one's Nitya Karma Anushtanam as ordained by Varanashrama
dharma is important.
2. In Sri Bashya , Swami Ramanuja emphasized on Nitya karma
Anushtanam as per Varanashrama Dharma in many places, In the very
first sutra of Brahma Sutra, his intention were very clear on this
It is further strenghted by Vyakayanams of Sri Srutha Prakasikar.
3. In his commentary on Mummookshapadi, Sri Manavala Maamuni (
Sarama Sloka Prakaranam, Sutra 195-196)
Even quotes as ` Sandhya heeno suchir nityam anarhas sarva
karmasu' , which literally means Kriyas such as
Sanyavandanams are imperative for all other karmas.
4. Sri Pillai Lokachar in his Artha Panchakam, when he begins to
explain Purushartham ,Swami talks about following one's Dharmas as
ordained by Varnashrama.
5. Sri Pillai Lokachrya in Sri Vachana Bhusham(Sutram 96, Adhikari
Nishta Kramam), says that The qualities of `Samam' and `Damam' are
important Atma Gunas for a Prapanna. He further states (Sutram 97)
that one who has Samam and Damam he gets Acharyan, from Acharyan he
gets Thirumantram and from Thirumantram he gets the Lord and from
Lord he gets Deliverance'.
We all know performance of Nitya Karma is an enabler (not the only
enabler though?) for one to get Samam and Damam,.
We have several references of Poorvacharyas talking Nitya/Naimitya
karma in their works. It is wrong to state that Sri Vaishnavsim
does not worry about Nitya Karmas (Poorvacharyas often
quote `Sandhya Heena: Pasubi Samana:' which means one who does not
perform Sandhya is considered as an animal.)
The difference of Sri Vaishnava Acharyas from others is not in
performing or Non Performance of Vaidheeka Karma. It only on the
results of them, Per Sri Vaishnava position, that performance of
Karma is not the ONLY action that results in deliverance; it is Lord
who has to finally give Deliverance to a soul.
Even today we see that it is only Sri Vaishnava Sanysins who perform
Sandhavandams even after they enter in to Sanyasa Ashram.
Dasan
Kazhiyur M Narayanan
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From: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Sathya. Kaliyamoorthy
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:14 PM
To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ramanuja] Vaishnavism and Brahminism
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
Acharyan Thiruvadigale Saranam
Dear All:
Greetings. Adiyen just wanted to add a couple of cents related to
the temple
priest discussion. In our opinion, there is no place for the so
called
brahminism in Sri Vaishnavism, which we call as Emperumaanar
Tharisanam. In
fact, daily brahminic activities such as sandhya vadanam, Gayatri
mantra etc
do not find a spot in Vaishnavism. It has a role in the Veidika
dharma.
Eventhough there is caste system in our soceity, no single caste is
superior than the others.
Just think how the world will be if there are no people to clean
or cut our hair or even cultivate and provide us with food grains.
Practically speaking the world can not without these essential
occupations.
Scriptures in Vaishnavism indicate no preference for a particular
caste. In fact, God himself has chosen 9 out of the 10 Azhwars as
non-brahmins, who enriched our sampradaya. There cannot be a greater
example than the life of Thirupaanazhwar. God himself taught a
fitting lesson to those misbehaving brahmins at that time.
Unfortunately there are still a lot of people who do not realize or
appreciate how Emperuman would like us to live.
In fact, anyone can be a vaishnavite- all he or she needs is
Emperuman and Acharya's grace. One who performs proper anushtaanams
and follows the scriptures can ALSO be a vaishnavite.
We all know ........."Nyaanam Anuttaanam Ivai Nanraagave udayanaana
Guruvai
adainthakkaal Maanilatheer thenaar kamala thirumaamagal kozhunan
thaane
vaiguntham tharum". There is no mention of brahmin here or as a
matter of
fact anywhere else in Vaishnava scripts.
Please accept adiyen's apologies if I have spoken something thats
not true.
Nanmaiyaal Mikka Naanmaraiyaalargal Punmaiyaaga karuthuvaraathalil
Annaiyaai athanaai ennai aandirum thanmayaan Sadagopan en nambiye.
Adiyen ,
Sathyanarayana Ramanuja Dasan
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