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<pre>srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha

srImath varavara munayE namaha



Dear Members,



I am totally uncomfortable with the comparision as stated in points 6,7 & 8.
It seems to me that, Sita was ignorant of the characters of Rama and only
Hanuman explain Rama's greatnes to Her. In my opinion, never. The mahaviswAsam
that Sita had on Rama was unparallelled and what Hanuman did was only to let
her know that Rama is coming shortly to relieve Her. Please remember, Hanuman
said this not because Sita had lost faith in Rama, but just as an information.



On the other hand the comparision of the AchAryA and the chEtanA is completely
different. The chEtanA, as such though a gnAni, is now a total illiterate due
to prakruti sambandham and hence the AchAryA teaches the chEtanA about Sriman
nArAyaNan and makes the chEtanA realize his true form, which is full of
knowledge and hence realize how Sriman nArAyaNan will take him on His own
without him (chEtanA) having to do anything.



There is a subtle difference between this comparision of Hanuman explaining
Sita and AchAryA teaching chEtanA.



I request you to kindly clarify the above.



AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh





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<pre>Adiyen wish to forward the mail sent by Srilatha to the group..



Let me request all Bhagavadas who has the time to read this mail, pl join us

next time when Sri.Devaraja Swamy will be on Vedics Bridge to hear such great

Bhagavad Vishayam.



Best Regards



Gunaseelan Venkatachary

Ph:408 588 6672





Dear Bagavadotthamaas,



We all had the wonderful opportunity of hearing Sri. U.Ve. Devarajan swami's

upanyasam on "mudaliandanin 10 vaarthaigal" on Sunday[3/3/02].



Adiyel feel doubly happy and proud of being Mudaliandan sishyai and posting

this at the appropriate time.i.e on Thiru Maasi kettai of annavilappan

swamigal..(9th descendant of Mudaliyandan Swamy)



As all of us know, Mudaliandan swamigal is considered as the punar Avatharam

of Lord Rama and hence the name 'daasarathi'. Andan enjoys a high status in

EmberumAnar's thiruvullam of being a great disciple of swami.



His importance is very much shown in different places in Emberumanar's life

history. Further Andan enjoys the status of being like Padukai and Thridandam

to Swami, and infact Swamy entrusted Andan with the Administration of the

entire "Koyil" .



Without going much into details, I would like to give a consice summary of

Andanin 10 words mainly comparing Chethanan living in mundane life (us) with

the Sitapiraati in Lanka , as told by Sri.Devaraj swamigal with brief

explanation of each points. 



1)Taking the Piraati side ,she was abducted and imprisoned Ravana's

place.Where as the Chethanan is imprisoned in this samsaric world.



2. Piraati realizes the cause of sufferings (seperation from Rama) was

absolutely due to the incisive and caustic allusions she made towards an

impeccable soul-Lakshmana. Similarly to a chetanan, the path

that connects him to the paramathma is immediately blocked the moment he

commits a baagavadha apacharam and thus can never reach 'Him'. Where in
bagavan

says 



'padma koti sade naapi, na kshmaami vasundare'.



3. Just as Piraati spending 10 months in Asoka Vanam , Chetanan spends 10

months in Karba Vasam.



4.Piraati was constantly surrounded and illtreated by the demons(Arakys). The

Chetanan is also tied with his family bondage.



As kambar says, "van marungul vaal arakkiyar nerukka angirrunthaal.Vaanathava

baasargal meaning aabaasa bandhukkal".



5.Like Maaricha created an illusion to Piraati in the form of a wonderful

sharp horned golden deer similarly the chetanan is attracted to the fallacious

benefits the materialistic world,there by tempted to engage more and more in

the wordly matters.



6.For Piraati, Sirya Thiruvadi explains Rama Vrithantham and for Chethanan

Acharyan 



7. In the Asoka Vana Sriya Thiruvadi explains Sita, the visesha kalyana gunas

of Rama.In the same way, Acharyan preaches the chetanan about the bagavan

kalyana gunas.



8.Siriya tiruvadi handed over the kanaiazhi to piratti and identified himself

by hinting a conversation that took place between Piraati and Rama in

private.In the same way the Acharyan gives the visesha tirumantraartha
upadesam

thro' guru parampara.



9.Piratti in return gave her choodamani explainng Rama of her plight in the

Asoka Vana.But the role of an acharyan acting as a mediator between bagavan
and

jeevathma can never be valued or measured in terms of what the chetnan can

offer to acharyan more than lying at the feet of Acharyan saying "talai allaal

kai maru illene".



10.The only factor that gave comfort to piratti was her friend ship with the

matron trsadai[daughter of vibishana].To the chetanan the quick way of

liberation attaining inthis world is to be always accompanied by
baaghavathaas.



11.Finally Lord Rama Himself came to Lanka and rescued Piraati and for

Chethana He comes and liberates the soul from unending sufferings, 



Pl note that Sita did not take any effort to reach Rama though she could have

done it all by herself , similarly Chetana is not fit to put any effort to

reach him, only His Dayay the mean for Chetana.







Though Sri.Devaraja Swamigal explained all points within a shor time in a gem

studded words and quotes such that even Adiyel can understand, hence let me

request all Bhagavadas who enjoyed the Upanyasam to correct me if any
mistakes.











Adiyel

Srilatha







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