Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha Dear Srivishnavas, Perhaps based this incident of sri Seetha driving Lakshmana , is the same that wish never leave the feet of the ACHARYA (SRI RAMANUJA who is also the Incranation of ADISHESHA so also Lakshmana ). What do you think of this ? Are there any reference like this in our texts ? Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan Makaram Sampath --- "vasudevan m.g." <mgv@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Part 2 > > Dear srivaishNava perunthagaiyeer, > > On the topic of "line of control", the LOC of > seethaa, let us first > take vaalmeeki and see the story how `devotion' or > the `soul' seethaa > drives away lakshmaNa, the renunciation. So, once > the renunciation is > not there to save, the soul [or devotion] becomes > protectionless from > others like deceit, etc, is subjected to teasing and > whims of 10 > senses, the 10 faced dhasa aananan ? or raavaNan. > Thus seethaa, > devotion becomes wavery and goes out of control, the > lakshmana rEkhaa > or the LOC, and lands in the bhOga bhoomi of lanka > under the command > of raavaNan. Since, seetha, the devotion, had much > self control and > did raama naama japam, thinking on raama always, > even while staying > among the raakshasees could get back the lord. Of > course the lord's > seeking the soul seethaa also contributed to a large > extent. > > Already, because of the desire on the materialistic > object of the > golden deer, [guised form of deceit] overtaking the > senses, agitation > is going on inside seethaa. Added to that the voice > of deceit calling > raamaa in a voice resembling original raamaa's voice > has set in > motion waveriness. So the immediate target to attack > is lakshmaNa, to > renounce his protection, by driving him away, in the > guise of `going > for help or protection of the god raama. Oh, what a > way the > waveriness of mind and devotion etc are beautifully > placed in > raamaayanam. > > Now let us see the slOkaas - > aarthasvaram thu tham bharthu: vij~naaya sadhrsam > vanE | > uvaacha lakshmaNam seethaa gachCha jaanee: raaghavam > || 3-45-1 > > meaning: On identifying the grievous voice that is > identifiable with > her husband's voice, Seethaa spoke to LakshmaNa, > "you go at once, and > check up on Raaghava.' [3-45-1] > > na hi mE jeevitham sthaanE hrudhayam vaa > avathishtathE | > krOsatha: parama aarthasya srutha: sabdhO mayaa > bhrisam || 4-45-2 > aakrandhamaanam thu vanE bhraatharam thraathum > arhasi | > > meaning: I have heard the loud yelling voice of > highly fretful Raamaa > whereby my heart, or my very entity, is not abiding > in its place. It > will be apt of you to protect such a brother of > yours, who is > screaming in the forest. [4-45-2, 3a] > > tham kshipram abhidhaava thvam bhraatharam saraNa > EshiNam || 4-45-3 > rakSasaam vasam aapannam simhaanaam iva gOvrisham | > > meaning: "He might have come under the subjugation > of demons as with > a bull coming under the seize of lions. Hence, you > hurry up, so as to > near such a brother of yours, who is seeking > protection." So said > Seethaa to LakshmaNa. [4-45-3b, 4a] > > Point: lakshmaNa is not moved for this request of > `hey you go'. For > he has been ordered not to leave her alone, but to > protect her. God > gives the tool or helping hand to us in the form of > renunciation and > if we have to throw that away saying you leave me > alone, while doing > devotion who can save us. > > Further - Soul is to be protected by renunciation, > when god is away ? > away really? Then what happens to the `vis' > principle of naama 1 of > sree vishNu sahasra naamam `visvaaya nama:'. "Having > entered all, > through in its entrirety and forever?" ? does it > mean testing times? > > Lashmana replies to seethaa [ taken two slokams for > consideration] > > avadhya: samarE raamO na Evam thvam vakthum arhasi > || 4-45-13 > na thvaam asmin vanE haathum uthsahE raaghavam vinaa > | > > Meaning: It is inept of you to talk that way, as > Raama is incapable > of being killed by any body in a given war. And as > for me, I do not > venture to abandon you, in this forest, in the > absence of Raaghava. > [4-45-13b, 14a] > > hrudhayam nirvrtham thE asthu santhaapa: > thyajyathaam thava || 4-45-15 > aagamishyathi thE bharthaa seeghram hathvaa > mrigOththamam | > > meaning: Hence, let your heart be diverted and > anxiety divested, as > your husband will be returning soon on killing that > extraordinary > deer. [4-45-15b, 16a] > > Point: Dear bhakthaas, see, how renunciation > lakshmana speaks ? hey > devotion, seethaa or soul seethaa, get diverted from > these kinds of > thoughts, that, all powerful god, your husband, will > be terminated, > do not stretch your imagination, be within your > limits [LOC?] by > getting that "anxiety" removed from your mind, and > await the god's > return, etc. oh, again a classy portrayal of the > wavering mind and > the correct counter to quell the wavery mind. > > Now comes the tongue lashing of seethaa on lakshmaNa > > ichChasi thvam vinasyantham raamam lakshmaNa math > krithE || 4-45-6 > lobhaath thu math kritham noonam na anugachChasi > raaghavam | > > meaning: Because of me, you wish Raama to be > completely destroyed, > and only because of your cupidity for me, you are > not following up on > Raaghava. It is definite. > > Point: See here, the 'real' woman in Seetha is > coming out. Once the > mind has lost its selfcontrol, this is what happens. > Anger, her own > thinking of `I am being looked upon for the beauty, > kaama, passion, > lust for flesh' etc comes out. All because of the > materialistic veil > has been drawn because of deceit ? the golden deer, > maareecha, and > thoughts of her husband's safety is in jeopardy. > > From this slOkam 6 [of the sargam] onwards, she goes > on talking > unhesitatingly, unilaterally and even abusively > because her mind is > fuddled with the thought 'some damage is done to her > husband.' ? all > his supernatural capacities are forgotten or > confusion has taken > over. All because, the desire for materialistic > objects have taken > over the mind, and the power of discrimination is > lost. > > If anything is not done in accordance with her wish > and whim, or > which goes against her individual or peculiar way of > thinking, it is > usual for a "shrewd woman", that too a woman like > seethaa, the > princess ? a woman of stature, to start on > tongue-lashing on the > person nearby, let it be any body ? husband, father, > mother or any > other. > > Here, Seetha, the `woman', who is > · "bharthru prEma antha ? 'blinded by the devotement > to her > husband, > · `bharthru kshEma aarthi'- 'a desirer of her > husband's > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! 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