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Dear Mukundan

Though Adiyen is not a periava, would like to share my knowledge in this
context, if there is any thing correct the credit will obviously goes to Sri
Krishnan swamy and if there are any
blabbering and that's purely due to my misunderstanding..

Best Regards

Gunaseelan Venkatachary
(Off )408 588 6672
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Pattangi" <danp@xxxx>
To: <ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:55 PM
Subject: [ramanuja] Manavalamamunigal - Asana on Adisesha


> sri:
>
> Humble pranams:
>
> Qs: Why does Manavalamamunigal have Adisesha as a Asana? (& Not Ramanuja)
>
> A: Ramanuja did take on as Perumals acharya in a few instances
> (Manrta Updesam to peruman & giving HIM Shankh & Chankra)
> But lord never gave him any Sambhavana. (Lord had this kurai)
>
> When VaraVaramunigal Gave Upadesam (Thiruavaimozhi saram), Lord gave
> him sanbhavana (SriSailesa Daya Patram taniana) and commanded that this be
> recited at every temple and home.
>
> And gave His Seat for His Sishya (Adiyen wants to get this calrified from
> periyavas) Pl. reply.
>
> So Ramanuja & VaraVara munigal are Avatara of Adisesha, but Lords seat is
> given for VaraVamunigal. (Please correct adiyen here... periyavas)
>

"Guna"- Also I heard that God was not satisfied with the Gurus He had so far
Vishwamithra - during Rama avathar (As you know about Vishwamithra's story
about Menaka et all)

During Krishna Avathar also He was not satisfied with His Guru as you can
read from "Elai Ethalan" Pathigam of Peria Thitumozhi. That hwen Krishna
requested to His guru about the Fee, Guru did not want any thing and after
so much of prssure form Krishna, finally Guru asked for his to be given back
to him (his was lost some time back). Finally Krishna has to give his son a
new birth,as goes teh story..So Krishna was also nat satisfied with His Guru

Also He knows that with Jeers Avatharam OrAnvazhi Acharya's heritage is
going to end and He didn't want to miss the bus and hence the Acharya
Sambavana. As you mentioned Namperumal has instructed to all the DDs to
follow this Thaniyan. If you read the story of Thirumali you will be
amazed..

>
> Q2: Manvala Mamunigal (Does Mamvalan mean Mapillai, why this name
> how does this name apply to Periya Jeeyar)
>
"Guna" - Jeer's thirunamam is Azhagiya Manavalan(same as Namperumal) and
Manavalan should have originated form His name.

> As: Please reply with Ans.
>
> dAsan
>
>
>
> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
>
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