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Swamin
Adiyen Gunaseelan would like to share some thing reg the Bhakti and
Prapatti, I did have lot of doubts in this context before hearing the
Upanyasam of Swamy Velukudi Krishnan and after that I think by His blessings
some fundamental concepts are clear. If any one wants to hear once more, let
me request Sri Mukundan to put the same in the Online , that will be really
usefull.

Swamy was telling about 10 diffs between Prapatti/Bhakti here are the few as
my memory is really poor

1) Athikaram- Bhakthi can be performed only by certain people( has to pass
thru Karma and Gnana Yogams) but Prapatti can be done by all inrespective of
cast/cree/race etc.
2)Bhakthi is a type of forcing upon(vithi vAkiyam) and Prapatti is the one
adopted by love(Acharya ruchi parikritham) and not forced upon.
3)Bhakthi is "Saathiyo Upayam" and Prapatti is "Sitho Upayam"
4)Anthima Smrithi- Bhaktha has to remember Him always but for Prappana the
task is His responsibility
5)Bhakti is Asethanam and Prapatti is Parama Sethanam
6) For Bhakthan "Karmaavathane" Moksham and for Prapanna "Dhehaavathene"
Moksham
7)Bhakti requires support from other things as Karma and Gnana Yogams but
Prapatti does not depend on other , it can thrive on its own.
8)Bhakthi is Swaroopa Virothi ( Seshasthvam and PAranthanthriyam breached)
and Prapatti is Swaroopa Anukoolam( goes hand in glove with both the above)
9)Bhakthi can only request some one(Him) to grant Moksham but Prappati
itself (He) can give Moksham
10)Bhakti adopts an inferior method "Asethana" to reach Moksham compare to
Prappati adopting ParamaSethana(He) to reach Him.

Hope I just covered the list ...

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

Gunaseelan Venkatachary
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> Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:
> Respected Sri Krishnan Swamin,
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> It is surely our fortune that we are associated with your through net. I
> sincerely thank you for your time and energy in replying our childish
> queries in the net.
> Since many months I had this doubt over Prapatti Vs Bhakthi.
>
> Dasan
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> KM Narayanan
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> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
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