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Dear Swamin
Adiyen would like to Thank you very much for the effort you put to see that
the knowledge of Ramanuja Sampradayam is getting spread . We owe you a lot
for your service and would pray to His lotus feet to shower His blessings
upon you .

Dear Bhagavadas adiyen has an appeal to you, the underlying message Swamy
has narrated is only a tip of ice berg and Swamy has rendered more Artha
visheshams in his upanyasams of IrAmAnusa nUtrandAdi , hence would request
all Bhagavadas to login to the Vedic Bridge every Saturday at 6.30 pm PST
and get His blessings.

Swamin once again I would like to Thank you for all the efforts you are
putting for the Sampradayam and also join Smt Sheela in requesting to start
the SVBhushanam Upanyasams soon.


Best Regards

Gunaseelan Venkatachary
(Off )408 588 6672
----- Original Message -----
From: <velukkudi@xxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 12:08 AM
Subject: [ramanuja] Difference between acArya abhimAnam and bhagavat
abhimAnam


> Dear bhAgavatAs,
> Ten alwars took birth to sing in praise of Sriman nArAyana. Madhurakavi
alwar
> and Andal were for bhAgavata/acArya abhimAnam. Again, IrAmAnusa nUtrandAdi
is
> also on bhAgavata/acArya abhimAnam. You would note a difference between
the
> other prabandhams and the two on acArya namely kanninuN sirutAmbu and
IrAmAnusa
> nUtrandAdi.
>
> When we surrender before bhagavAn, there is a doubt in our mind whether he
would
> accept us or not. However great he was bharata saraNAgati did not
fructify.
> However mean he was, guha saraNAgati was fruitful. We cannot decide
whether
> we would be treated as bharata or guha. It is totally dependant on HIS
wish.
> All the alwars who were longing for his communion lamented for years
without
> his darsan. So where are we before them ? This problem arises due to the
unquestionable
> svAtantryam of bhagavAn.
>
> Pillai lOkacArya in SV bhUshanam says , to overcome this one has to resort
to
> acArya abhimAnam. This assures us of the result.
>
> Now the difference between saraNAgati and acArya abhimAnam is evident in
the
> divine songs of alwars. It is only the songs in kanninuN sirutAmbu and
IrAmAnusa
> nUtrandAdi which have a unique characteristic. All the songs in these two
divya
> prabandhams end with "E" which reveals a certainty. For instance in KNS
tAmbu
> nAvukkE, tirivanE, nanmaiyE, nambiyE,....kANminE. In I NUtrandAdi -
nAmangalE,
> pEriyalvE, iyalvutannE,....inpuraVe, angAlpaduttE, pUmannavE etc. Why is
this
> feature predominant in these two only. This also due to the meter they
have
> sung in. The letter "E" in tamil stands for certainty (avadhAraNam). The
poets
> of these two only are certain and confident of the results. Not the
others.
> This stands as a testimony of acArya abhimanams supremacy over saraNAgati.
>
>
> There is one other feature. All the verbs used for anugraham or reaching
alwar,
> in KNStAmbu are in past tense. inbameidinEn,mEvinEn, pAthi arulinAn,
nenjuL
> niruttinAn. Other alwars mostly use future tense representing a request-
arulAi,
> kANa vArAi.. etc. They are yet to see the result.BhagavAn always keeps
them
> guessing. But for madhurakavi alwar,before he could request he got the
result
> without any waiting period.
>
> Pillai lokAcAryar tiruvadigaLE saranam
> madhurakavi Alwar tiruvadigaLE saranam
> tiruvarangattu amudanAr tiruvadigaLE saranam
>
>
> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
>
>
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>
>
>




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