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Dear Ms. nappinnai, 
Not that I am an expert in these matters especially not after smt. Jayshri 
sAranathan had left these things to specialists.

However, I cannot resist writing  this pAsura anubavam.
which relates to shEshathvam.

The soul's attributes are Anandham-enjoyment, knowledge-gnAnam; 
subservience-shEshathvam. Which of these is the predominant attribute of the 
soul? Sri rAmAnuja wanted to determine this and sent sri kUrathAzhwAn to 
thirukkOTTiyUr nambigaL, who after six months penance got the right answer from 
him.

He mentioned the pAsuram "adiyEan vuLLAn, vudal vuLLAn...."8-8-2 of 
thiru-voi-mozhi.

Sri kUrathAzhwAn was filled with glee and excitement and related this to swami 
yethirAja.
AzhwAr while wanted to mention the presence of the Lord in the body and soul 
mentioned vudal-vuLLAn for the presence of the God in our bodies. However, 
while mentioing the presence of the Almighty in the soul -instead of telling 
-en-vuLLAn or AthmA-vuLLan- AzhwAr substitues  "adiyEan" for soul. 

The very term "adiyEan" thus represents soul determining the fact the 
subservience is the primary and basic attribute of AthmA.
The EDu is excellent in this regard:
"ennuLLAn enna vEaNdumidathil, "adiyEan" vuLLAn engaiyAlEa, gnanam-AnAndham 
anRu vashtuvukku nirUpakam, shEshathvam engai. gnaAnAndhangaLilum andharangam 
bhagavath shEshathvam engai"

That is, instead of mentioning ennuLLAn, by terming "adiyEan vuLLAn" it is 
decided that shEshathvam is the innermost attribute of the soul than Anandham 
and knowledge.

rAmAnuja dAsan
vanamamalai padmanabhan


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: vaidhehi_nc 
  To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:42 PM
  Subject: [ramanuja] Re:Seshatwam and pArathanthiryam




  Sri:
  Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
  Srimad Vara Vara Munaye nama:
  Dearest SowbhAgyavati Jayasree Saranathan,
               Hope you're doing great with the blessings of the 
  Divine Couple. Your post was very....good. I neither have any 
  expertise nor resoursces to pass comments on your post. I can only 
  ask questions and doubts. Well, your posts and your name somehow 
  make me think of the Lord selva piLLai. My favourite laksmaNa/ 
  rAmAnuja is the one with selvapiLLai on his lap. Only a devotee like 
  you can make a person like me to think of God. Can you 
  explain/elaborate more on S and P from AzhvArs works if you have 
  access? This is an important topic for those who wants to understand 
  our sampradAyam clearly.

  AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
  dAsAnu dAsI
  NC Nappinnai
         








  azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam



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