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Dear Srimathi Vaidhehi
 
I refer to the following passage in your recent mail dated 10 Oct 2004.
"My response was to Sriman Krishnaswamy's(with rajan_s id) post 
wrt "paratantram is making oneself ready so as to deserve His 
krpa...". I didn't pose a question wrt sEshatvam and pAratantryam in 
the first place. I only asked wrt "making oneself ready". This 
addresses the issue of sahEtukam/nirhEtukam and 
freewill!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here ends my question."

 
I really understood your question and hence replied as follows:
 
  You have raised important questions of Sahetuka krupai and Nirhetuka krupai 
of the Lord. It will merit a serious discussion from the learned disciples of 
the Sampradayam.It is one of the doctrinairre differences between vadagalai and 
thengalai sampradayams. 
Ofcourse the differnces are only 'varthabetham' and not 'yojanabhedham'. 
 
I think that your quote from  Smt Jayasree Saranathan's post ,"It is He who 
gives buddhi to those whom He 
wants to lift...". 
recociles both the view points.

 
I did not go deep as I was unable to quote extensively from Acharyas'  
srisukthis.
 
I was expecting that the learned group will be writing on this topic.
 
It is said that when chetanan takes a step towards Sriman Narayana, the Lord 
takes hundred steps towards the devotee.It is due to his sausilya and saulabhya 
gunas.An enlightened soul gets redeemed after many cycle of births and deaths 
after undergoing the strenuous path of Gyanam and Bhakthi. Prapathi is also not 
that easy .This has to go along with its  five constituents .  
 
All these  may look sahetukam.
 
Adiyen Ramanujadasan
Soundararajan.
 
AzwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Yahoo! Groups SponsorIn one of the earlier mails, it has been mentioned that 
paratantriyam is not beining like 'achit'.
Bhagavat Ramanuja prays to the Lord in his Sharanagathi Gadyaam that he be 
endowed with parabhakthi,paragnanam and paramabhakti which entails the grace of 
the Lord.
 
He prays to the Lord in his mangala sloka of Sribhashyam that his knowledge 
take the form of Bhakti .
 
It has been said In the commemtaries to Divya Prabhantam that the Lord has 
given the vedas and Upanishads and then Bhagavat Gita so that  people can 
follow them.When He saw that only a few understood them and followed,He has 
sent Azhwars and Acharyas so that people can easily emulate them being of their 
own kind.
It is incumbent therefore that the prapannas follow the teaching of 
Purvacharyas which pleses the Lord.
The Lord emphasises the importance of everyone performing his duties when he 
says "Karmanyeva adhikaraste, ma paleshu kathachana' .
 
Any inadequacies in my language  be excused.
Adiyen Ramanujadasan
Soundararajan.
 
AzwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam

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