Dear Srimathi Vaidhehi I refer to the following passage in your recent mail dated 10 Oct 2004. "My response was to Sriman Krishnaswamy's(with rajan_s id) post wrt "paratantram is making oneself ready so as to deserve His krpa...". I didn't pose a question wrt sEshatvam and pAratantryam in the first place. I only asked wrt "making oneself ready". This addresses the issue of sahEtukam/nirhEtukam and freewill!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here ends my question." I really understood your question and hence replied as follows: You have raised important questions of Sahetuka krupai and Nirhetuka krupai of the Lord. It will merit a serious discussion from the learned disciples of the Sampradayam.It is one of the doctrinairre differences between vadagalai and thengalai sampradayams. Ofcourse the differnces are only 'varthabetham' and not 'yojanabhedham'. I think that your quote from Smt Jayasree Saranathan's post ,"It is He who gives buddhi to those whom He wants to lift...". recociles both the view points. I did not go deep as I was unable to quote extensively from Acharyas' srisukthis. I was expecting that the learned group will be writing on this topic. It is said that when chetanan takes a step towards Sriman Narayana, the Lord takes hundred steps towards the devotee.It is due to his sausilya and saulabhya gunas.An enlightened soul gets redeemed after many cycle of births and deaths after undergoing the strenuous path of Gyanam and Bhakthi. Prapathi is also not that easy .This has to go along with its five constituents . All these may look sahetukam. Adiyen Ramanujadasan Soundararajan. AzwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam I Yahoo! Groups SponsorIn one of the earlier mails, it has been mentioned that paratantriyam is not beining like 'achit'. Bhagavat Ramanuja prays to the Lord in his Sharanagathi Gadyaam that he be endowed with parabhakthi,paragnanam and paramabhakti which entails the grace of the Lord. He prays to the Lord in his mangala sloka of Sribhashyam that his knowledge take the form of Bhakti . It has been said In the commemtaries to Divya Prabhantam that the Lord has given the vedas and Upanishads and then Bhagavat Gita so that people can follow them.When He saw that only a few understood them and followed,He has sent Azhwars and Acharyas so that people can easily emulate them being of their own kind. It is incumbent therefore that the prapannas follow the teaching of Purvacharyas which pleses the Lord. The Lord emphasises the importance of everyone performing his duties when he says "Karmanyeva adhikaraste, ma paleshu kathachana' . Any inadequacies in my language be excused. Adiyen Ramanujadasan Soundararajan. AzwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam ADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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