Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama" Dear TCA Venkatesan, > Azhvars do attribute all their good deeds to the > Lord. But do they attribute their bad deeds to the > Lord too? jIvAtmA blames every other person except itself till it realizes. When the realization happens it doesn't blame anyone except itself and probably the Lord(unable to bear its separation from the Lord). Hmmm.....Hard to put this topic in writings! > Let me pose you a question. Why does Azhvar say > iruththinEn in "en uNarvinuLLE iruththinEn adhuvum > avanadhu innaruLE" instead of "en uNarvinuLLe > vandhu irundhAn"? This is the difference between cit(has knowledge) and acit(has no knowledge). I can't or rather don't want to translate what Velukkudi Krishnan swami says in class 8 as I fear I might introduce more confusion. But I guess(!) I got swami's point. He explains this through what bharata tells vasishta. It is b'coz of that knowledge we realize that our basic nature is sEshatvam and not independence! He explains lot of things and I enjoyed it to the core! But I can't translate those. BTW, instead of saying "en uNarvinuLLE vandhu irundhAn", it is apt to say "en uNarvinuLLE irukkinRAn" that is Lord is in everybody(default). But do we take possession of Him? May be AzhvAr wrote in that aspect(I donno! Need to ask NDP experts) and hence made the statement "en uNarvinuLLE iruththinEn,adhuvum avanadhu innaruLE". > Why does Thirumangai Azhvar say "vAdinEn" instead of "vAttinAy"? Hahaha...Good sense of humor. I am zero in NDP. So you're asking a wrong person. But then Kaliyan sang "vAdinEn" after seeing/enjoying that Lord nicely! I don't know how AzhvAr expressed his feelings before he saw perumAL. AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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