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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama"
Dear TCA Venkatesan,

> Azhvars do attribute all their good deeds to the
> Lord. But do they attribute their bad deeds to the
> Lord too?

          jIvAtmA blames every other person except itself till it 
realizes. When the realization happens it doesn't blame anyone 
except itself and probably the Lord(unable to bear its separation 
from the Lord). Hmmm.....Hard to put this topic in writings!


> Let me pose you a question. Why does Azhvar say
> iruththinEn in "en uNarvinuLLE iruththinEn adhuvum
> avanadhu innaruLE" instead of "en uNarvinuLLe
> vandhu irundhAn"?

This is the difference between cit(has knowledge) and acit(has no 
knowledge). I can't or rather don't want to translate what Velukkudi 
Krishnan swami says in class 8 as I fear I might introduce more 
confusion. But I guess(!) I got swami's point. He explains this 
through what bharata tells vasishta. It is b'coz of that knowledge 
we realize that our basic nature is sEshatvam and not independence! 
He explains lot of things and I enjoyed it to the core! But I can't 
translate those. BTW, instead of saying "en uNarvinuLLE vandhu 
irundhAn", it is apt to say "en uNarvinuLLE irukkinRAn" that is Lord 
is in everybody(default). But do we take possession of Him? May be 
AzhvAr wrote in that aspect(I donno! Need to ask NDP experts) and 
hence made the statement "en uNarvinuLLE iruththinEn,adhuvum 
avanadhu innaruLE". 

 
> Why does Thirumangai Azhvar say "vAdinEn" instead of "vAttinAy"?

Hahaha...Good sense of humor. I am zero in NDP. So you're asking a 
wrong person. But then Kaliyan sang "vAdinEn" after seeing/enjoying 
that Lord nicely! I don't know how AzhvAr expressed his feelings 
before he saw perumAL.

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
dAsAnu dAsI
NC Nappinnai










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