Dear Nappinnai, I ask these questions because of my concern that you are all advocating inaction on the part of the jIva - that is accept everything as the act of the Lord (which is fine) and that the jIva has no cause to do anything (which is not). Even in the example you used, Ramanuja did ask Koorathazhvan to ask Lord Varadaraja to give him his eyesight back. Why did he do that? There are so many instances where all these acharyas took actions instead of simply sitting back. Why? If you see certain activities in Kanchi or anywhere, is it your role to be inactive or is your role to see how you can serve there - while realizing that whatever happens and will happen is His will? If you see that our sampradhayam is getting crushed, is it your role to try to help restore it or do you leave that too as the act of the Lord and do nothing about it. For eg, the upanyasam you heard from VK Swami happened because some folks that that they had to do something to help the sampradhayam. As another eg, why is Chinna Jeeyar Swami struggling so hard at Thirumalai to straighten things there. If you do decide to act in certain ways (propagating the Vedas or protecting the Lord's divyadesam or whatever), are you acting on your own will and think you should not do that; or do you act that way because you realize that truly it is the Lord who is directing you to act in that fashion? After all, he owns you body AND mind right? Since, He is witness to all your thoughts as well ("uLLuvAr uLLaththu udan irundhu aRidhi"), why feel that your thoughts of wishing to do certain actions are separate from His will? There is a wonderful story to think about here: A person was drowning and was waiting for the Lord to help him survive. A log came by and he did not catch it; a boat came by and he rejected those who tried to lift him out of the water, etc. All the time, he kept waiting for the Lord to come by and save him. In the end, he drowned. In the other world, he met the Lord and asked Him why He did not come to save him. The Lord smiled and asked him: "I did try to save you. Did I not send the log, the boat, etc to help resuce you?" adiyEn ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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