Smt.Vedavalli ranganathan, Thanks for your explanation, I have read that we never can do anything that is not willed by him. I think that explains the Sharanagathi principle more clearly. We can never ever diobey his writ. Even that is willed by him!! That explains the Ravana's charecter also. Hope you agree else correct if my understanding is wrong. Dasan/raghavan vedavalli ranganathan <vedaranga@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sri vijayaraghavan Swami, We all know at the time of birth , our time of death also fixed.People of intelligence , even if they undergo sever troubles and sorrows ,with forbearance wait patiently, till their time of natural death and get a body in the next birth.. But those who are bereft of knowledge, committ suicide whimsically,without thinking of the result of their act. They disobey god's law, and get punishment by not getting a gross body. God never interfere in our acts.He only sanctions our desires.He has given us intelligence and minute independence also.If a son disobeys a father and dont listen to him, what will a father say? He will say,if you do like that you will sufferand i cant help it."is it not? The same way if a soul disobey God's law, the same applies here. he wont get a body and suffers as a ghost. most people don't even know Paramatma is there sitting by our side.in Kathobanishad it is said about two birds sitting in a tree. one bird vigorously eating the fruits of the tree.and another sitting quietly and watching the act of the other bird.when the bird fortunately turn his head and sees the bird sitting quitely and make him his friend it's life is success.otherwise this bird has to go on eat the fruits of his Karma again and again.one bird is jeevatma which is eating fruits and the other one is Paramatma. He is the superviserof our acts.He never interfere in our acts unless we take shelter of Him.Krishna says in Bhagwath gita ,i give intelligence,remembrance and forgetfulness.'So if with intelligence we take shelter of His lotus feet he is always there to guide us. Krishna dasee Vedavalli Ranganathan. azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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