Swamin, Yes all the philosophy deals with Karma. But Karma alone doesnot upgrade or degrade a soul. The fruits that we bear in the subsequent births are due to other efforts like Sharanagathi, prapatti and all which actually have a certain degree of nullifying effect on the karma. As for ghosts, this is also one repentant state of the Jiva. Dasan/raghavan rajan s <rajan_ramaswamy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Balaji Sundarrajan The theories of all the Hindu religions including Vaishnava philosophy believe in the omnipotence of Karma. Sufferings and enjoyment are the fruits of Karma. All the theologies talk about redemption of the soul and how to overcome the effects of Karma resuling in samsara and transmigration. Any good or bad resuls are the rewards and punishment for the good and bad acts done in the previous births which we call as prarabda Karma. Regarding the other point about the pious souls meeting with unnatuaral deaths,the Lord has assured in His Varaha sarama sloka that when a person surrenders to Him when he is hale and hearty, the Lord remembers His Bhaktha at his last moments, lying as a log of wood, and leads him to moksha. I am not sure about place of ghosts in vaishnava philosophy. Adiyen Ramanujadasan Soundararajan azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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