Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Sriman Varadarajan, Humble praNAms to you. I don't want and it is not my intention to offend men folks. But men can never ever understand motherhood! Read the post in that perspective. > But what is the result ? Not every student gets first or scores a > distinction. There will be many failures. Why? Is it the mistake > of the Teacher? No it depends on how far a student has > concentrated and grasped the subject from the teacher. He should > have shown faith on the teacher and learned his lessons. > This is what done by our emperuman in parting the rules to the > jeevatmas in terms of the sastras and other scriptures and > teachings of various acharyas. Before even the first class starts,the students differ in mentality. Have you taken that into account? It is only based on that differing mental growth plus the teacher/prof's level, a student masters/ flunks the subject. A student with lesser knowledge/brains will obviously feel inferior to come forward and get things cleared. That's the human psychology! It is the teacher/professor(if he is ideal guru as you mentioned)who has to step/come down to the student's level to improve/correct him. Example, srI kUraththAzhvAn goes behind the faulty disciple who felt guilty of his behavior that he didn't want to face the teacher. I can give you many examples of this sort from academic circle. AcAryA/guru should set an example for the student,only then the student can emulate the guru. If the guru himself has srImad gAmbhIryam, and thinks why he should get to the level of the student, God save both. Suppose I am in the water(I don't know swimming),the person who knows swimming has to get into the water to save me. He can't save me, giving some theoretical lessons,from sitting in the banks/shore/... I personally have seen different teachers/profs including three Nobel Laureates at close quarters. They all differ in their approaches. My own father was working as a principal for the school and he would give marks for the student even if the student had not written anything and would pass him instead of flunking him! One day I asked him(I was in my high school) "how can you give marks for him when he has not written anything?" My father said "poor fellow, God only knows what his problems are. Who am I to flunk him or spoil his life?" If an ordinary jIvAtmA thinks like that why would the God, who is full of compassion, expect anything from us. Is He short of something? > This is what exactly done by emperuman. Whoever has the supreme > faith in him, learns his lessons and gets the special credit from > him. I don't think AzhvArs mentioned anywhere in their works that it is b'coz of their supreme faith, that Lord showered gnyAnam(mathi nalam) on them. Well, NDP is shaking! > Even in the case of a class, a Teacher will have a set of students > who will be in his heart. This is entirely due to the behaviour of > the students towards him. Similar is the case with emperuman also. I totally disagree! A mother has 4 kids. For a TRUE mother, all the four kids are same(will be in her heart). Even if one kid grows into a messed up adult(committs a crime/whaterever)and something happens to that kid, the mother would be shaken. Infact I would put the blame on the mother for the messed up boy, for, somewhere in the growing years,the mother had loosened her grip of that boy. That's why the boy has gone astray. That mother is the paramAtma and the kid is the jIvAtmA. Well, nobody answers how karma started in the first place!!! If it existed forever, then how "pratama prayatnam" enters the scene. What does it mean by making the "first step" in the "first place"? We need to be very clear what "first step" means. Are we all in the same page? Who is a lay man in whose eyes? AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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