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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
Dear Sriman Varadarajan,

             Humble praNAms to you. I don't want and it is not my 
intention to offend men folks. But men can never ever understand 
motherhood! Read the post in that perspective.

> But what is the result ? Not every student gets first or scores a
> distinction. There will be many failures. Why? Is it the mistake
> of the Teacher? No it depends on how far a student has
> concentrated and grasped the subject from the teacher. He should
> have shown faith on the teacher and learned his lessons. 
> This is what done by our emperuman in parting the rules to the
> jeevatmas in terms of the sastras and other scriptures and
> teachings of various acharyas.

Before even the first class starts,the students differ in mentality. 
Have you taken that into account? It is only based on that differing 
mental growth plus the teacher/prof's level, a student masters/ 
flunks the subject. A student with lesser knowledge/brains will 
obviously feel inferior to come forward and get things cleared. 
That's the human psychology! It is the teacher/professor(if he is 
ideal guru as you mentioned)who has to step/come down to the 
student's level to improve/correct him. Example, srI kUraththAzhvAn 
goes behind the faulty disciple who felt guilty of his behavior that 
he didn't want to face the teacher. I can give you many examples of 
this sort from academic circle. AcAryA/guru should set an example 
for the student,only then  the student can emulate the guru. If the 
guru himself has srImad gAmbhIryam, and thinks why he should get to 
the level of the student, God save both. 

Suppose I am in the water(I don't know swimming),the person who 
knows swimming has to get into the water to save me. He can't save 
me, giving some theoretical lessons,from sitting in the 
banks/shore/...

I personally have seen different teachers/profs including three 
Nobel Laureates at close quarters. They all differ in their 
approaches. My own father was working as a principal for the school 
and he would give marks for the student even if the student had not 
written anything and would pass him instead of flunking him! One day 
I asked him(I was in my high school) "how can you give marks for him 
when he has not written anything?" My father said "poor fellow, God 
only knows what his problems are. Who am I to flunk him or spoil his 
life?" If an ordinary jIvAtmA thinks like that why would the God, 
who is full of compassion, expect anything from us. Is He short of 
something?

> This is what exactly done by emperuman. Whoever has the supreme
> faith in him, learns his lessons and gets the special credit from
> him.

I don't think AzhvArs mentioned anywhere in their works that it is 
b'coz of their supreme faith, that Lord showered gnyAnam(mathi nalam)
on them. Well, NDP is shaking!
 
> Even in the case of a class, a Teacher will have a set of students
> who will be in his heart. This is entirely due to the behaviour of
> the students towards him. Similar is the case with emperuman also.

I totally disagree! A mother has 4 kids. For a TRUE mother, all the 
four kids are same(will be in her heart). Even if one kid grows into 
a messed up adult(committs a crime/whaterever)and something happens 
to that kid, the mother would be shaken. Infact I would put the 
blame on the mother for the messed up boy, for, somewhere in the 
growing years,the mother had loosened her grip of that boy. That's 
why the boy has gone astray. That mother is the paramAtma and the 
kid is the jIvAtmA. Well, nobody answers how karma started in the 
first place!!! If it existed forever, then how "pratama prayatnam" 
enters the scene. What does it mean by making the "first step" in 
the "first place"? We need to be very clear what "first step" means. 
Are we all in the same page? Who is a lay man in whose eyes? 

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
dAsAnu dAsI
NC Nappinnai 









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