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--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Padmanabhan <aazhwar@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Dear Shri VaradarajanSumithrA,
> 
> It is said that "karthruthvamthAn EswarAdhEnam" The acts done by 
the soul is dominated by the Lord and is not independent of Him.
> 
> If that is so? why should the kArmic effects shoul be borne by the 
souls?
> This is where the term "prathama prayathnam" comes into play.
> 
> I would rather put it this way. All the acts done by the soul are 
>permitted by the Lord. However, the initial course, direction or a 
>way is first decided by the soul.  Once, the soul takes the course, 
>emprumAn permits  the soul to do  in its act.

Respected Swami, 

If it is "andha chEthananudaiya pUrva vAsanArupamAna vidhi nishEsha 
pravruthiyilE anumathi", how is it allowing prathama prayatnam? He is 
really udAsInan or "vudhAsEnaraip pOlEa irukkiRavan" (forgive me for 
my Thamizh)?

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
Vishnu

> The vyAkyAnam runs as follows: "avvidathil, madhyashthanAgiaiyAlEa 
>vudhAsEnaraip pOlEa irukkiRa paramAthmAvAnavan, andha 
>chEthananudaiya pUrva vAsanArupamAna vidhi nishEsha pravruthiyilE 
>anumathiyaiyum, anAdharaithaiyum vudaiayavanAik koNdu, 
vihidangaLilEa anugrahathaiyum, nishidhangaLilEa nigrahathaiyum paNNA 
niRpAnAi..."
> 
> rAmAnuja dAsan
> vanamamalai padmanabhan









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