Dear Sri Venkatesan Swami, I agree with what you had written.But, do the aimpulan act independent of the Lord? From the context it is clear that the Lord is in control and that's why Azhwar is praying to the Lord.But, there seems to be some Etham given to the aimpulan and because the context is about parama pada vAsis there is a doubt as to how the aimpulan could be so active there. Azhwar playing the role of a baddha Jivatma is placing this prayer. But drawing a parallel from Mukta Jivas or Nitya sUris seems a bit difficult to handle. Also, the other examples you gave are about the muktas being astonished by the Lord's mercy and that they yet don't fully understand Him.But here, the muktas are at the receiving end and are being tormented.What is the result of that? Because parama padam is the place for Nitya kainkaryam, how could that be interrupted? I fully agree that within the purview of Lord's mercy everything is possible and we are ALWAYS dependent on the Lord. These questions are only for a clarification within the accepted dependency. Ramanuja dasi Vedavalli Ranganathan __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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