SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA Respected Sri Soundararajan swamy, Pranams. A very good clarity emerges from your mail on ViNNuLAr. >From your mail it is deduced that ViNNuLAr are those who are in Vaikuntham which is ViNN- nagar.Since they are the ones who see Him always, 'sadha pasyathi', in the Thirumalai pasuram, "viNNuLAr viyappa vanthu Anaikku anRu aruLai Intha kaNNaRAy" shows that they were present along with Emperuman when He came to protect the elephant. Since they see Him always (sadha pasyathi), their presence is always with Him, for wherever He is, there they will be. They will always accompany Him. So no question of them leaving Parama padham arises. For the other doubt on 'aimpulan' part, you have referred to Edu vyaakyanam as referring to Sugriva and other great souls on earth. (viNNuLAr perumARkadimai seyvAraiyum seRum aimpulan ivai). Kindly throw more light on whether this is about the great souls who did supreme service to Him in their baddha jiva state (with affliction by 5 senses), who were ultimately given ViNNagara-p-padavi. This doubt comes because how can a muktha be afflicted by 5 senses (once after becoming a muktha).Since He is one who takes note of the good things where they are not even present, by some justification like 'en vUrai-ch-chonnaai, pErai-ch-chonnai' and also acts like a goldsmith (pon vANiyan ponnai urai kallilE....... Sri vachana bhooshanam). who takes into account even the smallest good thing we have done and multiplies it as 'kaal pon aayitrru, kazhanju pon aayitrru' , it is difficult to think that he will allow the mukthan to suffer from 5 senses. So one way of looking at this is that He has lifted even those who have been under the spell of 5 senses mainly because they were steadfast in their servive to Him. Why I say like this is because Sri Govindarajar in his vyakhyaanam of VAlmiki RAmayana, has highlighted at what places Sugriva had slipped in his ways and how Rama had glossed them over - just dismissed them like in 'en vUrai-ch-chonnai, pErai-ch-chonnai'. Inspite of such deliberate mistakes - apparently due to the handiwork of 5 senses - since Sugriva did complete service to Him, he was given ViNNuLAr status. Is this referred to in the above verse? Or someother explanation? Kindly clarify. Regards, jayasree saranathan. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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