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Dear Sri Satakopan,

Adiyens pranam.  for your question whether Iramanusan Nootranthathi
is/is not in the 4000 Dhivya Prabhandam the answer is Iramanusa
nootranthathi is not in the 4000 Dhivyaprabhandam, list. However it
has the honor of being equivalent to the Dhivya prabhandams. 

The Arulicheyals(4000 dhivya prabhandam in sampradayam is called
Arulicheyal) after the time of the last Azvar Thirumangai azvar
declined in pracharam. The srivaishnavas in dhivya desams knew their
dhivyadesam's prabhandams etc. It was during Nathamunikal's time some
srivaishnavas from ThiruKudanthai dhivya desam, who were going in
dhivya desam visit while coming to VeeraNarayanapuram chanted the
"Araamuthe adiyen.. " pathigam (10 verses). When Nathamunikal heard
the "...ayirathul ippathum" enquired Srivaishnavas that if they knew
all the thousand. To that Srivaishnavas replied that they dont know,
however Sri Nathamunikal went to Kurukoor and rest of all is history.
Svami nammAzvar gave Sri Nathamunikal all the 4000 verses. This is
stated in Guruparampara Prabhavam. There was no Iramanusa
Nootranthathi at that time. 

There is no valid Pramanam that Azvar at that time knew that there was
this prabhandam which is going to come in the future and hence gave
sri Nathamunikal at that time. 

There is no valid pramanam that after Azvar gave the four thousand to
Sri Nathamunkal through upadesam, the poorvacharyas after
Nathamunikals time did not get Iramanusan Nootranthathi through
upadesam(Nathamuni to uyyakondar to manakkal nambi to alavandar...).

The Acharya who installed the pramanyam of Thiruvaimozhi Svami
Azhagiya Manavaala Perumaal Nayanaar(younger brother of Svami
LokaDesikan) in his MagnumOpus  "Acharya Hrudayam" has quoted thus

"All prabhandam before kanninum Chiruthaambu:- Pranava Artha
vivaranam(explaination)"

"KanninunChiruthaambu itself:- nama: shabda artha vivaranam"

"Periya thirumozhi till Thirunedunthaadakam:- manthra sesha artha
vivaranam"

"Thiruvaimozhi:- Dhvyam artha vivaranam"
"Iyarpa itself:- charamasloka artha vivaranam" again no iramanusan
nootranthathi here.

Holding this, the last of the poorvacharyas Svami Manavaalamamunikal,
who became the acharya of for the first Acharya Sri Ranganathan
himself, has hinted in his work Upadesaratnamalai that "Vaitha
thirumanthirathin...Serviththaar Thaathparyam Thernthu" . Meaning
Kanninunchiruththaambu was  included into the 4000 dhivya prabhandam
by knwoing the inner meaning of that.

Even if Iramanusa Nootranthathi was included in the 4000 dhivya
Prabhandam, since the inner meanings of Iramanusan nootranthathi
denote Bhaagavatha Seshathvam" it must have been chanted after
kanninunchiruththambu.  But is very clear from anushtanam of all the
dhivyadesams that Iramanusan Nootranthathi is chanted after Iyarpa.

All the above quotes that Iramanusa Nootranthathi is not included in
the DhivyaPrabhandam.

However, During Udayavar's time in SriRangam, Sriranganatha in his
Periya Thirunal's Sapthavaranothsavam day, stopped Svami Udayavar from
entering the Kovil and did Arulappadu to Amuthanar to chant Iramanusa
Nootranthathi and after hearing that, ordered all the srivaishnavas to
chant this daily along with 4000 dhivya Prabhandam. and gave Iramanusa
Nootranthathi the Dhivya Prabhandam Status and made the sattrumurai
before thiruppalandu. Also ordered  that during Anadhyayanam
(karthikai-karthikai to thai-hastham)this Iramanusa Nootranthathi
should not be chanted. These can be found very clearly in "Kovil Ozugu".

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
NCN.


PS: a trivia: this Iramanusa Nootranthathi is the second version of
the Iramanusan Nootranthathi by Amuthanar. When he gave udayavar what
he wrote the first time udayavar(ramanuja)did not accept it and
destroyed it, Then asked amuthanar if you really want to write
something about him, then write it along with Azvars, acharyas, and
thier works.








--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sadagopan Vasudevan <satakopanv@xxxx>
wrote:
>
> Hello:
>  First of all i am happy to be included in this group.
> I hope to get my doubts clarified and get some
> material to help with my spiritual growth.
>  I am in Calcutta, the largest city in India,
> and hope to get some devotee friends on this group.
> My parents belong to Sri Ahobila Mutt, i have not undergone
> initiaition yet.
>  I am not one for doing this blindly, and always seek
> answers. The usual reply has been
> this is the periyava way, that is it.
>  Here is my first question to the group:
>  1: Ramanuja Nootrandadhi
>   The author is not an Azhvar (Amuthanar)
> Is this a part of 4000, why? / why not?
>  Can someone give the list of how the 4000 is counted.
>  If Amudhanar's work can be added, then why not Desika
> prabhandam.
>  Satakopan Vasudevan
>








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