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Dear Sri Malolan, It is true that certain unique features do exist in not only 
Anirrudha,pradhyumnabut also for other forms like antharyAmithwam. 
What we are talking here is about Guna nalangal of the Lord which is complete 
in the state of archAvathAram. " Sarvam POrnamsahOm" is the upanishadh quote 
given by sri manavAla mAmunigal in 158. It is not that other qualities are 
devoid in archAvathAram but are perhaps in a subtlestate. One of the qualities 
which are common for the five forms and qualities which are peculiar to the 
forms, sparkle - not just exist- sparkle meaning that even other qualities do 
exist but do not sparkle.
If we assume that what is said above is untrue, then not only the text of 
AchArya hridhayam, but upanishad vAkyam, manavAla mamunigal s commentary would 
become untrue. 
Further, AzhwArs prabhandha verses which are preceding to all which you have 
quoted take priority and I hope you will agree that we should at no point of 
time deny the truthfulness of Azhwar S pAsurams. For instance, if we are to 
agree that quality of vyOham does not exist in archai, then we will be refuting 
perumal thirumozhi 1-10 " van peru vAnagam vuyya" and the whole of thiru voizh 
mozhi 7-2 kangulum paghalum and hundereds of Azhwar s verses. 
I reproduce swAmi manavAla mAmunigal original vyakyAna text of AchArya hridhyam 
-158 in this regard -"Aga ippadi Asridha AdhEna swarOpasthithyAdhikamai 
'adiyOmukkE"ennumbadi karai vizhundha idamAna archAvathArathil murpattavaRRil 
vullavaiyum ( in other forms) kAnalAm AgaiyAlE 'dhEva pirAn ariyum ennumbadi 
mandiyiruppadhu karuthu"

I am just quoting AchArya hridhayam, swami manavAla mAmunigal vyAkyAnam, AzhwAr 
s prabhandham etc. If these are tobe unture, the opinion is yours. However, we 
should not forget that the whole premise of our faith and philosophy is 
completely built on dhivya prabhndham verses and others are supplementary. Sree 
bhAshyakArar was able to complete sreebhAshyam to a perfect manner with the 
helpof dhiya prabhandha verses. " vudaiyavar idhu kondu sOthra vAkyangalai 
orunga viduvar" .
Still if you feel that I am at fault, I concede that the fault lies in me not 
the contents of the great spiritual seers and Azhwars.
Thank you.
vAnamAmalai Padmanabhan


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