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Dear Sriman Mukundan,

Nice to see the mail. 

Actually many pASurams were quoted to support sAttvika ahankAram. But 
I doubt whether pUrvAchAryas used that particular word for such 
occasions.

Parasara Bhattar, in the interpretation of the name SishtEshta:, 
means Sishta (good) people as those having SEshatva gnAnam. Ohters 
like kamsa etc. are not Sishtas, though they are also 100% SEsha to 
the Lord.

He quotes from scriptures the following words about the knowledgeable 
(vipras):

sattvastha: nirahankAra: ----

Those knowledgeable people, who are in the mode of meaningful 
existence (akArArthAyaiva svam -- Thirumantram), do not have any 
ahankAram. Hence pUrvAchAryas do not use the word "sAttvika 
ahankAram".

dAsan
Vishnu

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Pattangi <danp@xxxx> wrote:
> sri:
> 
> It is really heartening to see many devotees interested in 
discussing these issues.
> 
> It is good to discuss, enquire and seek knowledge.
> 
> If you are not sure, then please ask a as a question? Do not write 
> final statements, unless it is a quote from Purvacharyas works.
> 
> Please not use words like "what is the big deal " while talking 
about sampradayic issues.
> 
> It is always best to just quote purvacharyas works regarding these 
issues.
> 
> Adiyen requests devotees to not take what they hear from others as 
the final, 
> unless and until it is backed as the words of our Purvacharyas.
> 
> ======================================================
> UpadesaRattinaMalai:   
> munnOr mozhin^tha muRai thappAmaR_kEttu *
> pinnOrn^thu thAmathanaip pEsAthE * - tham_nenjil
> thORRinathE solli ithu_suththa upathEsa_vara
> vARRathenbar * moorkkarAvAr (2) ... 71 
> 
> So those who start preaching on their own and ARE NOT repeating 
exactly 
> as per purvacharyas are not only becoming themselves Murkhas, 
> others who end up listening to them become Murkha as well.
> ======================================================
> 
> All the questions we talk/ ask / discuss have have answers by our 
purvacaharyas.
> It is our ego that makes us NOT to look at purvacharyas sri Sooktis.
> 
> But while discussing these issues, we have to be careful not to 
give the Incorrect message.
> 
> =====From a scholar in India =============
> Bharata is for paratantryam and Lakshmana is for seshatvam 
> as proved in many of our purvacharya srisooktis.
> 
> Bharata's stature is much higer to Lakshmana.
> 
> Abhimana bhangamai refers to ahankara
> Abhimana tungan selvanai pola refers to satvika ahankara. 
> =====From a scholar in India =============




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