Shri Varadhan wrote: > > can you provide justification for the above paragraph? I would like > to know the following > > (i) the exact verses in the jayAkhya & sanatkumAra > samhitas mentioning what you are quoting > (ii) What the "Worship" entails > (iii) whether the installation of the vinAyaka idol is a part of > the dEvatha installation around the temple, or a separate ritual > for vinAyaka Few months back, in this very list, I requested information on this same topic! The context was like this -- I had an argument with somebody, in which I had claimed the following: 1. Vaishnavas had never worshipped an "elephant-faced" deity. 2. There was no evidence for Vishvaksena having an elephant-face. Recalling from memory, he commanded an army of gajamukhas who formed one fourth of his total army. 3. The thumbikkai azhwar stuff is a backdoor attempt to smuggle vinayaka worship into vaishnavism. In this course of the argument, I a reference to gaNesha worship in jayakhya samhita was exchanged. Unrelated to this, I stumbled another reference in "Vaisnavism: Its Philosophy, Theology and Religious Discipline", by S. M. Srinivasa Chari, where a mention anya devatas (including gaNesha, durga...) in Sanatkumara samhita occured. I skimmed through the originals, just enough to make sure that anya devatas are indeed mentioned. The reference of anya devatas in pancharatra samhitas is a topic I had intended to investigate, but hadn't really gone deeper. I would be receiving couple of pancharatra samhitas shortly. Given some time, I may be able to consolidate all the references. Interested members can contact me privately. > (iv) your data sources that lead you to say that the practice of > installation of divine vigrahas of AzvhArAchAryAs replaced what > used to be, in your opinion, a practice of installation of vinAyaka > in the temples. > This is a speculation of Shri SMS Chari. Having noting the non- precedence of installing mUrtis of gurus & acharyas and having observed the absence of anya-devata sannidhis in vishnu temples, despite the references of the same in Vaishnava agamas, he should have done a basic arithmetic. I have observed the amman sannidhi in Tirukkovilur temple. It does not seem to have been an installation as per agamas. I am open to correction on this. Regards, Kasturi Rangan .K ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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