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Shri Varadhan wrote:
> 
> can you provide justification for the above paragraph? I would like
> to know the following
> 
> (i) the exact verses in the jayAkhya & sanatkumAra
> samhitas mentioning what you are quoting
> (ii) What the "Worship" entails
> (iii) whether the installation of the vinAyaka idol is a part of
> the dEvatha installation around the temple, or a separate ritual
> for vinAyaka

Few months back, in this very list, I requested information on this 
same topic! The context was like this -- I had an argument with 
somebody, in which I had claimed the following:
1. Vaishnavas had never worshipped an "elephant-faced" deity.
2. There was no evidence for Vishvaksena having an elephant-face. 
Recalling from memory, he commanded an army of gajamukhas who formed 
one fourth of his total army.
3. The thumbikkai azhwar stuff is a backdoor attempt to smuggle 
vinayaka worship into vaishnavism.

In this course of the argument, I a reference to gaNesha worship in 
jayakhya samhita was exchanged.

Unrelated to this, I stumbled another reference in "Vaisnavism: Its 
Philosophy, Theology and Religious Discipline", by S. M. Srinivasa 
Chari, where a mention anya devatas (including gaNesha, durga...) in 
Sanatkumara samhita occured.

I skimmed through the originals, just enough to make sure that anya 
devatas are indeed mentioned. The reference of anya devatas in 
pancharatra samhitas is a topic I had intended to investigate, but 
hadn't really gone deeper. I would be receiving couple of 
pancharatra samhitas shortly. Given some time, I may be able to 
consolidate all the references. Interested members can contact me 
privately.


> (iv) your data sources that lead you to say that the practice of
> installation of divine vigrahas of AzvhArAchAryAs replaced what
> used to be, in your opinion, a practice of installation of vinAyaka
> in the temples.
> 

This is a speculation of Shri SMS Chari. Having noting the non-
precedence of installing mUrtis of gurus & acharyas and having 
observed the absence of anya-devata sannidhis in vishnu temples, 
despite the references of the same in Vaishnava agamas, he should 
have done a basic arithmetic. I have observed the amman sannidhi in 
Tirukkovilur temple. It does not seem to have been an installation 
as per agamas. I am open to correction on this.

Regards,
Kasturi Rangan .K




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