Dear Sri Padmanabhan Swami,
Namaskaram. Both in Bhagavad Gita 13.6 and 15.7, the
lord mentions that the five senses are associated with
the ksetra, material body and within prakrti. How do
we understand Nitya-suris who have a suddha sattva
sarira being affected by the five senses?
Ramanuja dasi
Vedavalli Ranganathan
--- vimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Sri:
> Dear Sri Padmanabhan Swamin,
> If one becomes a
> nithyasUri by His grace, how can be subjected to the
> modes of nature and/or the five senses?? The literal
> meaning of the word "Vaikuntha" means a place
> without anxiety. It is fair to assume that a
> jeevatma is subjected to anxiety when he is
> subjected to the modes of material nature, or when
> he uses his five senses for anything but service to
> the Lord. What we see here seems to contradict the
> very concept of Moksham. I request you to kindly
> address this paradox.
>
> Dasan,
> Kidambi Soundararajan.
>
>
> Padmanabhan <aazhwar@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Madam,
>
> The emphasis here is not on viNNuLAr by itself but
> for those who serve the LOrd of viNNuLAr. EmperumAn
> is the even Lord for viNNuLAr. Those who serve this
> EmperumAn are 'viNNuLAr perumARku adimai seivAr" .
>
> Here, viNNuLArrefers to nithya-Suri-s. The question
> whether these torment even nithya sUri-s there,is
> taken up. Yes, it does so. Is there a precedent?The
> incident of Sri Periya Thriuvadi and sumukan is
> narrated to prove this point. KInldy refer to EDu
> vyAkyAnam for this pAsuram.'Thirvadiyaiyaiyum
> 'enakku' ennap paNNiRRirEA.
>
> Thus if nithya-sUri-s are tormented by these five
> senses there, then can the degree of torture be
> lesser here in this world. Then why Oh! Lord are
> you still keeping me here " is the despair words
> from mARan.
>
> 'vunnilA aivar vudan iruthi ivvulagil , eNNilA mAyan
> enai naliya eNNuginRAn.." thiruvAi mozhi
> nURRandhAdhi 61;
>
> How, then to escape from these .The answer to this
> also is given in the seventh pAsuram.
>
> " enRu yAn velgiRpan vun thiruvaruL illaiyEAl'
> With the Grace of EmperumAn.
> DAsan
> vanamamalai padmanabhan
> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
>
>
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> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
>
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