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Dear Mrs. Saranathan,
 
By terming that certain words contain only in vyAkyAnam and not in the text, we are trying to undermine both.Both in the sense that, The texts are better understood from vyAkyAnam-s
refer upadhEsa rathinamAlai - ariya aruLich cheyal poruLai AriyargatkippOdhu-aruLich cheyalAith thARindhu.It is unfortunate that this argument springs from the premise that there is no nexus between the text and the vyAkyAnam. NOthing can be far from truth.
 
The terms -Thirumandhiram, dhvyam and Charama SlOkam are not mentioned in the texts. Nor they would appear in tamin nigandu. The vykyanam-s are replete with such srEvaishNavic terms. The texts do not contain such terms. The vyAkyAnam for 'OrAyiramAi' -Thirumandhiram; agalakillEan -dhvyam; vArthai aRibavar -chrama slOkam will become null and void ab-initio, if we accept the argument that the text and nigandu do not contain this term.
 
First we tried to overlook vyAkyAnam Now we are trying to say that vyAkyanam-s do not reflect the spirit of text. I do not think this is the spirit of argument nor it shows reverence for our pUrvAchAryAs.
 
Any researfch should be to  open the eyes in tandem with vyAkyAnam  but not at the cost of vyAkyAnam-s
 
As I said earlier, The vyAkyAnam for this particular pAsuram categorically mention nithya-Suri=-s and also gives a precedence. If one does not like it, that is different matter altogether. Undermining vyAkyAnam-s for the sake of education will NOT SERVE THE PURPOSE.
 
Yes, dhEvAs take rebirth. brahmA's has got a life longevity after that his post is gone. -nAnmugan nAL migai.ref. Periya ThiruMozhi. There is no argument regarding this.
 
In this particular pAsuram, it is categorically mentioned nithya-sUri-s. Therefore, there is no point is referring to Suzh-visumbu vyAkyAnam which is in an entirely a  different context.
 
Yes, vEdu is Moksham. Yes it is also vidu min muRRavum -nETTal vihAram - refer nannUl sUthram.It has go thus grammatical connection as well as content connection. How does it matter in this context? I cannot go against EDu. I cannot undermine EDu.
 
Your disclaimer does not insulate against apachAram on EDu.
 
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Conclusion: This will throw an impresssion that our sampradhayam is a water tigtht one does not encourage any research. Absolutely not.
If it had been so, so many vyAkyAnam-s for a single prabhandham could never have emerged.
The Versatile Genius -MahAvidhvAn- PrathivAthi Bayankaram -Kanchi swamy has done extensive research. EAch of his articles are eye openers for us and help us in understanding the vyAkyAms and texts clearly.
 
He has pointed out several instances where aruLich cheyal/vyAkyAnam-s contain contradiction-s/gaps with idhihAsa purANangaL. Far from citing the lack of text in vyAkyAnam or nigandu he always concludes that The AzhwAr-s are blessed ones and any such contrary thiking should be accepted as it is, as they come out of 'mayaRvara mathi nalam aruLap peRRvargaL'
 
Thank God YOu accept AchArya Hrdhaym which in no uncertain terms after comparing The divine Gospel Bhagawath GEThA declares supremacy of ThiruvAiMOzhi. Therefore, any contradiction between the two, the ThiruvAimozhi should supersede and hold good.
 
I do not want to continue such type of discussion undermining either AchAryAS or AzhwAr-s in the name of research. The research if it can be called so, should go in tandem and not tangential to AzhwAr and Acharyas. I am not wiser than them and therefore I cannot argue further.
 
rAmAnuja dAsan
vanamamalai padmanabhan
 
Thank You.
 
rAmAnuja dAsan'
vanamamalai padmanabhan
 


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