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Hari Om. 

Well said. Agnostic literally means "One Who doesn't know" (whether God
exists or not)! Atheist is one who denies the existence of the God. So if
Ms.Sridevi has used the word Agnotic in its correct literary sense, they
have only moved away from aposition of total faith to doubting thomas
stage. They have not closed the door on god! These bouts of varying faith
come to move and test. They try to reason and use intellect to guide the
life and soon realise that reason, intellect etc. are fine but they can't
take them far all the time. Suddenly a development comes along which shakes
the from that position and hopefully puts them back in a position of faith
in God.

This phase may be good for them since agnosticism normally make people
depend on self-effort and may be that is required at this point of time!

One simple technique to bring some one else to the right path is to pray to
God (after all your faith is intact) to help them and bring them to the
true path quickly!

Hari Om.

Swamy SV 


At 07:26 13/08/02 -0000, you wrote:
>To answer your mail Sridevi, let me also first point that the analogy 
>of video-game was excellent. 
>
>But what did the analogy really cover ? It addressed the concept of 
>re-incarnation as a means to attain perfection finally. It also 
>talked about progress and failures and the role of Guru etc. 
>
>Now when people turn agnostic due to failures what can be said ? The 
>first point is that all the happenings in one's life are only due to 
>Prarabdham (fate). Happiness and sorrow are just functions of what we 
>have done in our past of which we possess no knowledge. And everyone 
>is subject to time (kaalam). 
>
>Even Sri Rama who was god himself surrendered his kingdom and spent 
>time in the forest. The Pandavas who were so close with Krishna 
>experienced all kinds of problems right from poisoning of Bhima, 
>burning their house, sending them to forest, Durvasa's visit and then 
>the Mahabharata battle, and finally they also lost all their sons and 
>grand-children except Parikshit. 
>
>What about all these problems for those who can directly put 
>questions to Sri Krishna itself ? Kunti in her stuti prays to Krishna 
>to give her more problems!!! The reason being that whenever there is 
>a problem, Krishna was by their side. Same with all the gopa, gopis 
>of brindavanam.
>
>One should take problems as a good thing to do some introspection and 
>realise the impermanence of happiness. Even Indra the lord of 
>heavens, is just a post holder for sometime, which may appear long 
>for us, but then when it gets over, he too will have to exit.
>
>And for any spiritual progress Sri Krishna tells Uddhava that he 
>first takes away the devotee's ego which happens through failures in 
>life. Only when one realizes that things are not under one's one 
>control that there's any scope for Bhakti to begin. 
>
>I know not much sinks in when one is agnostic. But how can God 
>consciousness be instilled by anyone other than himself ? It is only 
>through his Grace that one can understand his presence. 
>
>> "..I kindly request someone to throw some light as I really 
>> want my dear ones to start believing in God.."
>
>When someone shines a powerful light from above a tower, everthing 
>below gets illuminated and we can everything being below. But unless 
>the person turns the light towards himself, we cannot see him. 
>
>So the light towards God can only be shown by himself in through a 
>Guru (who is himself). 
>
>Radhe Krishna
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