Dear Bhagavatas: The subject has been discussed ad nauseum and as far as possible, all views have been given equal opportunity so far. It is high time we stopped further discussions. It is understandable that out of overflow of devotion over the sanctity of our Sampradayam, people have been voicing their genuine concerns on the issue. Lord Venkateswara, the sole protector of all the worlds, is not in such pathetic plight as not being able to protect Himself! He knows what is best and when and how to handle any situations. Let us leave it in His mighty hands on how to solve this problem. No further discussions will be approved in "Sri Ranga Sri" Any discussions, if needed, may be carried on through private mails. On a different note on postings,please avoid using "all caps" throughout the text. In netiquette, it is considered "shouting at the reader"! Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Moderator "Sri Ranga Sri" =============================================================== SRIMATHEY RANGARAMANUJA MAHA DESIKAYA NAMAHA RESPECTED SWAMIS, I SINCERELY FEEL THAT THE TIRUMALA ISSUE IS BEING POLITICISED. WHY SUCH A HUE AND CRY NOW? SUDDENLY EVERYONE IS WAKING UP AS IF THE LORD SRINIVASA MANIFESTED NOW. WHY WAS THERE NO OPPOSITION(WHEN IT OUGHT TO BE) WHEN A ROAD WAS LAID TO THE SHRINE (IT SHOULD BE RECALLED THAT SWAMI RAMANUJAR DID NOT DARE TO WALK ON THE SEVEN HILLS) WHEN THEY STARTED PERFORMING TIRUMANJANAM WITH TAP WATER (WHEN ABUNDANT SPRING WATER IS AVAILABLE AT PAPAVINASAM,AKASAGANGA AND GOGARBHAM) WHEN THE TRADITIONAL JEEYAR SATHUMURAI SEVAI WAS CUT SHORT WHEN THE LADDUS WERE SOLD WITHOUT BEING OFFERED TO THE LORD AT ALL(EVEN NOW, THEY ARE NOT OFFERED. THESE LADDUS ARE NO LESS THAN HOTEL LADDUS) WHEN THE DEVOTEES ARE EXPLOITED AT EACH AND EVERY PLACE IN TIRUMALA AND TIRUPATI(YOU NEED TO GREASE THE PALMS EVERYWHERE RIGHT FROM KALYANA GHATTA TO DARSHAN) ---------------------------------------------------- THE GOVT. LOOKS AT THE CONVENIENCE OF THE DEVOTEES(at least on paper) HENCE IT LAID DOWN ROADS, STEPS AND SHELTERS WHEREVER POSSIBLE.(REMEMBER: I AM NOT SUPPORTING ANY GOVERNMENT) THE GOVT. FELT THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO CONSTRUCT THE FOURTH PRAKARAM BY DEMOLISHING THE 1000 PILLAR TEMPLE FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PUBLIC. MOREOVER, THE 1000 PILLAR MANDAPAM WAS DILAPITATED AND WAS IN A DANGEROUS POSITION.(It was built in 15th century). NO TEMPLE FUNCTIONS WERE HELD THERE SINCE A LONG TIME. THOUGH IT IS AN ANCIENT MONUMENT TO BE PROTECTED, IT CAN ALWAYS BE RELOCATED TO SOME OTHER PLACE. VAIKHANASA AGAMA PERMITS THE RELOCATION OF YAGASAALAS THEMSELVES, WHAT TO SPEAK OF JUST MANDAPAMS? MOREOVE, FOURTH PRAKARAM IS PERMITTED IN VAIKHANASA AGAMA. THE GOVT. DID SO IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TEMPLE PRIESTS. IF IT WAS A WRONG DECISION, WHAT WERE THE SO CALLED "PROTECTORS" DOING WHEN IT WAS BEING DEMOLISHED?. WHY WAS A CASE NOT FILED AGAINST THE GOVT? IT IS BECAUSE THE VAIKHANASA PANDITS AND TIRUMALA JEER MUST HAVE FELT THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING IN ORDER. HOWEVER, I STRONGLY CONDEMN THE DESTRUCTION OF HISORICAL PEDDA JEER MUTT. THE GOVT. HAS NO RIGHT TO LAY ITS HANDS OF THE MUTT AND BEDI HANUMAN TEMPLE. THEY CANNOT TOUCH HATHIRAM BABA MUTT ALSO. WHY SUCH ATROCITIES ARE HAPPENING? BECAUSE WE HAVE THROWN OUR SHASTRAS. WHAT IF A GOVT. OFFICIAL ASKS US "ARE YOU A TRUE ARCHAKA? DO YOU HAVE PROPER ANUSHTANAM?" WE WILL BE CLEAN BOWLED. WE HAVE COMPROMISED WITH ACHARAM AND ANUSHTANAM AND HENCE WE HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE. WE CANNOT ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE";WHY ARE YOU EATING HERE AND THERE IF YOU ARE A BHRAHMANA?, WHY ARE YOU PUTTING AYYAPPAN MAALA IF YOU ARE A VAISHNAVA PARICHARAKA? WHY ARE YOU GOING TO PUTTAPARTHI SAIBABA OR SHIRDI SAIBABA IF YOU ARE A TRUE VAISHNAVA?WHY DON'T YOU WEAR 12 OORDHVAPUNDRA AND SHIKHA IF YOU ARE AN ARCHAKA? WHY DON'T YOU COME WITH PROPER VAISHNAVA SWAROOPAM IF YOU WANT JEEYAR SEVAI?" LET US INTROSPECT OURSELVES. LET US FOLLOW THE PATH OF OUR POORV ACHARYAS SINCERELY. THE LORD WILL SET EVERYTHING STRAIGHT. "NEE KONDAKU NEEVE RAPPINCHUKO" AS LONG AS WE ENACT DRAMAS AND STUNTS WITHOUT PROPER INVOLVEMENT AND BHAKTI, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. THE GOVT. WILL GO AHEAD WITH ITS DEMOLITIONS. H.H. TEREZHUNDUR ANDAVAN USED TO ASK HIS DISCIPLES"ENNADA ANDA BOMMAYAI PATHUTTU VANDIYA?" BOMMAI REFERS TO LORD SRI RANGANATHA SINCE THERE WAS NO SHASTRIC WORSHIP IN LINE WITH AAGAMAS. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, TIRUMALA IS HOLY SHRINE ONLY BECAUSE OF MILLIONS OF DEVOTEES WHO CHANT "GOVINDA NAMA SANKIRTANAM". NOT BECAUSE OF THE MOOLAVAR BOMMAI SRINIVASA PERUMAL. HE RAN AWAY TO HIS ABODE LONG BACK LEAVING BACK HIS IMAGE.OF COURSE, EVEN HIS DIETY IS TRANSCENDENTAL FOR US. HENCE THE CROWD AND COLLECTION. KINDLY PARDON THIS DAASA, IF THE ABOVE STATEMENTS SOUND ARROGANT. CRITICISMS ARE WELCOME DAASAN E.S.MUKUNDAN,SECUNDERABAD. DAASAN E.S.MUKUNDAN,SEC'BAD. --- narsimhan csl <cslnarsimhan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dear Sri Sudarshan swamy, > > I am very happy at your response & u spoke the > complete nerve that we have been following so far. > In fact, we are a running a temple protection > movement in Andhra Pradesh with a motto to restore > past glory of many temples. It is with the support > of many devotees an awakening to this respect is > created now. Some are restored, let us see how far > we can go. > > Govt has a big department with lots of officers and > staff, but the money they get from big temples like > TTD becomes sufficient to pay the salaries of the > high ranking officers and staff of these temples. > Nothing ofcourse goes to small temples - only > contributions to the exchequer are taken from them. > > Being rich temple, TTD gets lot of attention from > the govt. > > Lord is the creator, protector & destroyer. > > Sajjana Padapadma parama renuhu > > Lakshmi Narasimha dasan ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/VkWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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