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Dear Sri Jayaraman,

Thank You for your explanation! It is very
enlightening!
Your statement " He takes a personification to help
enable limited grasp of the unrealised mind" is
wonderful and clarifies my question.

I have one follow-up question to clear up my mind and
understand this in full -

I understand there is one Supreme Purusha and he has
no forms and all forms belong to him.

But while personifying God, don't we emphasize more on
the "man" part by attaching a "man's" form to God. 
Our scriptures do depict Goddess Mahalakshmi, Kali
taking various forms to destroy evil. 
But the balance seems to be in favour the "man" form
of God.

I think this has been the general trend in other
religions as well be it Christianity, 
Islam, Buddhism etc., where in the personification of
God predominantly seems to be in Male
form. 

The question I have is -
Is this personification of God predominantly in male
form/favour a general trend due to the way society has
evolved in man's favour ever since (thus helping the
common person understand the concept of God better by
relating to the evolutionary world we live in)

or 

Is there any subtle difference here that I am failing
to understand.


Thank You.
Srinivasan.

--- Jayaraman <jayaraman.v@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: "Jayaraman" <jayaraman.v@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Suchitra Srinivasan'" <suchisrini@xxxxxxxxx>,
>    <SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [SriRangaSri] Why does God have 2
> wives?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:12:00 +0530
> 
> Namaskaram
>  
> I have no scholarly skill to quote scriptures and
> pramanas for your query.
> That will of-course come from eruidite scholars of
> this sacred forum
> shortly.  
>  
> But,   I venture out to express the clarifications
> of our gurus which I have
> heard in this regard.
>  
> The Godhead Shriya:pathi is everywhere.  He is
> vibhu.  He is vishnu.  He is
> omnipresent.  He has no form and all forms belong to
> him.  This is to be
> understood very clearly.  That is why Vedam worships
> god in all the elements
> of nature and also in pure chit (which is
> consciousness).
>  
> But, this consciousness has anata kalyana gunams. 
> (Unending sacred
> qualities).
>  
> For an unrealized soul,  God is conceived through
> various archa and other
> avatarams.  He takes a personification to help
> enable limited grasp of the
> unrealised mind.
>  
> During such personification,  The God head takes the
> purusha form.  This is
> not the same like male / female combination of this
> evolutionary world.
> Purusha is independent and all other forms are
> dependent on him.  Vedam says
> clearly that all living beings are dependent on this
> purusha.  he is the
> only male out there.  By Male, here we mean the
> "manly" qualities a common
> being will attach to.
>  
> During such perceivement,  All the sacred kalyana
> gunas of this God head are
> represented as his vibhutis.  They are generally
> represented as the female
> consorts of the God.  They are not "Wives" in the
> normal colloquial sense.
> They are in no way different from him.  To quote the
> famous kalidasa,  they
> are as united as the word and meaning (vAgarthAviva
> sambruktau...).  Shri is
> no different from sridharan.  Ma is not different
> from madhavan.  
>  
> We can't say God has two "wives".  That is putting
> it little - pardon me
> saying this - crudely.  He also has divya devis like
> brinda, shri, bhu,
> neela and other vibhutis.
>  
> Apart from these female consorts,  The God head also
> has many other special
> attributes which are also treated as female
> personification.  Vishnu mAyA is
> one of them.   Mother Ganga arose from his feet, so
> we can personify them as
> its daughter.  And so on.
>  
> Please excuse me if there are any mistakes in this.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Jayaraman
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Suchitra Srinivasan
> [mailto:suchisrini@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 05 July 2004 18:02
> To: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SriRangaSri] Why does God have 2 wives?
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am new to this forum and I have been a staunch
> devotee of SriManNarayana ever since I was born.
> 
> However off late I have been struggling with a few
> questions off late in my mind -
> 
> 1) I am starting to question the fact that why did
> God
> have 2 wives? Is this whole concept of Vishnu with 2
> wives, a concept created by a man-dominated society
> in
> the past? 
> 2) Why wasn't having 2 wives considered unethical
> when
> God is expected to set an example for us all.
> 
> I would appreciate your view points in this regard.
> 
> Thank You.
> Srinivasan.
> 
> 
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