Pranams and Greetings! Jai Sriman Narayana! Yes, I have attended discourses by U.V. Sriman Sri Bahsyam Appalacharya Swamy where he has given an illustrious anaology that ravana can be compared to the mind, Sri Sita Devi to the athma, Sri Hanuman to Acharya, and Sri Rama to Paramathma. Ravana with his ten heads can be compared to the mind with ten senses (five inner senses and five outer senses). There is only one purusha Sriman naryanan, and we jivathmas are His property. We are like His pathnis. The mind stole the athma (atleast attention) away from the paramathma. Now, Paramthma first sends an acharya. After expressing sharanagathi through the acharya saying that Sriman Narayan is the only means, Paramathma comes and detroys the obstacles (Ravana) and gives Moksha. We should be as steadfast in sharanagathi and maha viswasam like Sita, that He alone can release us from the bondage. Sita at one point said that she could kill ravan herself, but wants Rama to come kill ravana showing an example of comlete bharanyasam. U.V. Sri Applacharya's book "Ramayana Thathva Deepika" in Telugu is very enlightening. Sri Appalacharya used to be a powerful speaker and his discourse of two hours seemed to appear like 20 minutes. Sri Applacharya's daughter Smt. Thiru Venkatamba has done a great service by translating Bahgavad Vishayam into Telugu. Coming back to the subject, Appalacharya Swamy is not saying that Sita Piratti is jivathma, but the anology is interesting. In another anaology, when going through the forest, Sita Rama Lakshmana simablized the pranavam with Sita walking in the middle (Rama is like Akaram, Sita is like Ukaram, and Lakshmana is like makaram (jivathma)). Si Applacharya Swamy Garu has given discourses and written Bhagavatham with similar commentaries drawing analogy of different asusas to the different weeknesses in us. With all glorsis to Lord Sri Venkaswara, I remain, Sincerely Narender P. Reddy --- Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta <acharyatvsr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Sriman Sadagopan, > Sreemathe Ramanujaya Namaha: > In the Divine Drama the inner meaning is as I have > tried to describe. This > is not my imagination. It is what I have gleaned > from listening to eminent > Scholars of Ubhaya Vedanta. Sita Piratti is enacting > the role of Jeevathma > and SHE IS NOT just a Jeevathma. She is Divine > Mother Herself. If you read > the whole article it is only mentioned that the > Vedic Shastras are > incorporated as inner meanings in the Divine story > of Ramayanam as well as > in Bhaagavatham and Mahaa Bhaaratam or for that > matter in the various > Puraanaas. Also Anjaneya's role in Sundera Kandam is > akin to that of an > Acharya. Here the roles of Acharya, Jeevathma, the > Ananya Sharanatvam and > Paativratyam as enumerated by the Behaviour of Seeta > Piratti in Asokavanam, > the nature of Lanka, Ravana, his ten heads all have > inner meanings. Why > would the Lord come down to the Marthya Loka? Why > would the Divine Mother > who could have simply turned Ravana into nothing by > Her Sankalpam suffer > Herself to be abducted and then suffer the insults > heaped upon Her by Ravana > and his minions? What does the Meya Mrigam episode > teach us? > How can the Divine Mother not know that no golden > deer exists? Can the > Divine Mother or The Lord commit any sin at all? > Seeta Piratti says that she could turn Ravana into > ashes just by Her Tejus > and does not wish to liberate Herself. She wishes to > be liberated by none > other than The Lord Himself. What does that tell us? > Though She is all > powerful like The Lord She has only revealed by > these the Ananya Sharanatvam > etc as enumerated in the Vaishnava Philosophy of Sri > Ramanuja Darsanam. > In Bhagavat Geeta The Lord says that there is > nothing in these three worlds > He covets or wishes to achieve. The same goes for > The Divine Mother. > Why would the Lord consent to be a student of Sage > Viswamithra or Vasishta > or Saandeepani? Where is the necessity for this when > all knowledge emanates > from the Lord. > The moral of the story is that they only enact a > drama for us to learn from > it. They are only ACTING. By that token The Divine > Mother also is enacting a > role in the entire Raamaayanam and Sri Anjaneya as > well. > Ultimately the greatest truth spoken by all great > sages is that all of this > are His Leelas, His sport. He is the story teller, > the script writer, the > director, the editor and the impartial witness as > well. He has created the > sets required for shooting the picture as well as > the tools. He is the best > actor and the Divine Mother the best actress as it > was said by Anbil Mama > according to one mail in Srirangasri. There is no > way one can define this > Srushti and the happenings in it and the all knowing > sages , Rushis and > Munis have no more answers beyond this. Our Alwars > and Acharyas take us > nearer and nearer to the source of all this so that > we can, with the Grace > of The Lord and His Divine Consort experience His > splendour. > Jai Srimannarayana: > > Adiyen, > Ramanuja Dasan. > > > > > >From: Sadagopan <sgopan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta > <acharyatvsr@xxxxxxxxxxx>, > >sadagopaniyengar <sadagopaniyengar@xxxxxxxx> > >CC: SriRangaSri <SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > sgopan@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] The issue of Sita > Piraatti's agni pravesam > >Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:18:39 -0400 > > > >SrI: > > > >Dear Shri Ramanujam : > > > >There are many who will not accept the description > of > >SeethA PirAtti as a JeevAthma as you referred to > >in the introductory para of your mail . HanumAn as > >an AchArya to Loka MaathA is also difficult one > >to accept without meaning any disrespect to > HanumAn . > > > >V.Sadagopan , New York > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta > <acharyatvsr@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <sadagopaniyengar@xxxxxxxx> > > > Cc: <SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:57 AM > > > Subject: RE: [SriRangaSri] The issue of Sita > Piraatti's agni pravesam > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriman Sadagopan Iyengar , > > > > > > Sreemathe Ramanujaya Namaha: > > > > > > It is said that Here Sita Piratti is in the > role of a Jeevathma and > >Siriya > > > > Tiruvadigal, Hanuman assumes the role of an > Acharya. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Apply to 50,000 jobs now. > http://go.msnserver.com/IN/46921.asp Post your CV > on naukri.com today. > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail ? 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