Dear Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan: I was restraining myself from expressing my adverse criticism of the false "scientific claim" on this subject. I am glad that you came out strong with your views to fuel my response. It is laughable that some people fabricated weird experiments to reach these conclusions that do not even merit scientific scrutiny. Words thrown away loose as alkaline pH, ions, oxygen fixation in hemoglobin and evoking laws of Physics and acoustics as support are hollow and meaningless that do not belong to the Class of SriRangaSri. Further, I would echo the sentiments of eminent scholars like Sriman Ramanuja Varadha Srinivasa Thatta, Narander Reddy, Sadagopan and others who have explained this subject elegantly in this journal. I would also reiterate that usage of English term Idolatry is profanity that should be dismissed in our usage to denote Hindu methods of worship. The principle behind Archa moorthy and Vigraha aradhana in our religion has no English equivalent, but I can tolerate the term iconic to denote our form of worship. All religions are full of symbolism in their practice whether it is Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism etc. We are no different in our approach to envision God whose form is limitless and nondescript in images of Avataram revealed to us by Him. Adiyen Srinivasa Raghavan narsimhan csl <cslnarsimhan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Sudarshan swamy, Following is the text of my response to the originator & also to Srirangasri. I hope it is posted soon. Best regards Lakshmi Narasimha dasan Dear swamies, This article is nothing but a 'super scientific facntasy'. These are dangerous extrapolations of science & will stand no scientific test. E.g., extrapolating this one would be lead to the suggestion that strong acids, such as sulfuric or other, being extremely ionic if they are poured on the granite material the effect would be even pronounced than the weakly acidic substances that are talked about. The effect on haemoglobin will be even better & so on... No one, sane & scientific will ever agree to these kind of arguments. I would request the bhagavatha community to not to indulge in trying to give a scientific reasoning to religious aspects. Let us leave it to lord. U know, he has the powers to create new laws of science. E.g. floating of stone in water in Ramayana. So, the existing laws of science just end in him. To answer the querry, traditionally the vigrahams were carved from special stone which does not contain materials with 'rajasa' and 'thamasa' characters. Only black salagrama stone, which is personification of the Lord himself is to be used for this. It is not granite please.!!. Only the Salagrama stone is religiously acceptable for creating Lord's images. Later, accepting peoples desire of portability for utsavams, Lord has accepted Panchaloha vigrahams to be his abode. I will stop here & leave u to reflect. sajjana padapadma parama renuhu Lakshmi Narasimha dasan Sudarshan K Madabushi wrote: Dear Bhagavatas: As mentioned in aan earlier posting, it would be helpful if some PramaaNams from our scriptures could be cited in support of the scientific explanations. Moderator =============================================================================== --- In SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Maya Iyengar wrote: > I wish to hear from fellow devotees their opinion about this and the reasons for use of lime stone and wood in some temples. What do aagamaas say about the choice of granite and other substances? > Regards, > Maya. Dear member, The forwarded article is very interesting. If the experiments described are true, we now have at hand a sound (pun un-intended) scientific justification for idolatry. But it also makes one wonder about another thing. If the granite inside the sanctum is so very important -- in terms of 'pH factor', 'acoustic' and 'ionic' conductivity etc. etc. -- then perhaps the time has come for us to leave the 'moolavar-vigraham-s' in our temples alone? Perhaps, we should no more overburden 'moolavars' with all manner of "aabharaNam-s" (jewellery of gold, diamond, precious gemstones, what not)? Surely, all the heavy jewellery covering the idol (head-to-foot as in some of our temples) must be negatively interfering with, why even diminishing, all the positive energy the granite is said to generate? Can scientific-minded members please throw some light? Thanks and regards, dAsan, Sudarshan Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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