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Dear Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan:
 I was restraining myself from expressing my adverse criticism of the false 
"scientific claim" on this subject.  I am glad that you came out strong with 
your views to fuel my response. It is laughable that some people fabricated 
weird experiments to reach these conclusions that do not even merit scientific 
scrutiny. Words thrown away loose as 
alkaline pH,  ions, oxygen fixation in hemoglobin and evoking laws of Physics 
and acoustics as support  are hollow and meaningless that do not belong to the 
Class of SriRangaSri.
 
Further, I would echo the sentiments of eminent scholars like Sriman Ramanuja 
Varadha Srinivasa Thatta, Narander Reddy, Sadagopan and others who have 
explained this subject elegantly in this journal. I would also reiterate that 
usage of  English term 
Idolatry is profanity that should be dismissed in our usage to denote Hindu 
methods of worship. The principle behind Archa moorthy and Vigraha aradhana in 
our religion has no English equivalent, but I can tolerate the term iconic to 
denote our form of worship.
All religions are full of symbolism in their practice whether it is Judaism, 
Islam, Christianity, Buddhism etc.  We are no different in our approach to 
envision God whose form is limitless and nondescript in images of Avataram 
revealed to us by Him.
 
Adiyen
Srinivasa Raghavan


narsimhan csl <cslnarsimhan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Dear Sudarshan swamy,

Following is the text of my response to the originator & also to Srirangasri. I 
hope it is posted soon.

Best regards

Lakshmi Narasimha dasan

Dear swamies,

This article is nothing but a 'super scientific facntasy'. These are dangerous 
extrapolations of science & will stand no scientific test. 

E.g., extrapolating this one would be lead to the suggestion that strong acids, 
such as sulfuric or other, being extremely ionic if they are poured on the 
granite material the effect would be even pronounced than the weakly acidic 
substances that are talked about. The effect on haemoglobin will be even better 
& so on... No one, sane & scientific will ever agree to these kind of arguments.

I would request the bhagavatha community to not to indulge in trying to give a 
scientific reasoning to religious aspects. Let us leave it to lord. U know, he 
has the powers to create new laws of science. E.g. floating of stone in water 
in Ramayana. So, the existing laws of science just end in him.

To answer the querry, traditionally the vigrahams were carved from special 
stone which does not contain materials with 'rajasa' and 'thamasa' characters. 
Only black salagrama stone, which is personification of the Lord himself is to 
be used for this. It is not granite please.!!. Only the Salagrama stone is 
religiously acceptable for creating Lord's images. Later, accepting peoples 
desire of portability for utsavams, Lord has accepted Panchaloha vigrahams to 
be his abode. 

I will stop here & leave u to reflect.

sajjana padapadma parama renuhu

Lakshmi Narasimha dasan



Sudarshan K Madabushi wrote: Dear Bhagavatas:
As mentioned in aan earlier posting, it would be helpful if some PramaaNams 
from our scriptures could be cited in support of the scientific explanations.
Moderator
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--- In SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Maya Iyengar 
wrote:
> I wish to hear from fellow devotees their opinion about this and 
the reasons for use of lime stone and wood in some temples. What do 
aagamaas say about the choice of granite and other substances? 
> Regards,
> Maya.


Dear member,

The forwarded article is very interesting. If the experiments 
described are true, we now have at hand a sound (pun un-intended) 
scientific justification for idolatry.

But it also makes one wonder about another thing.

If the granite inside the sanctum is so very important -- in terms 
of 'pH factor', 'acoustic' and 'ionic' conductivity etc. etc. -- then 
perhaps the time has come for us to leave the 'moolavar-vigraham-s' 
in our temples alone? Perhaps, we should no more 
overburden 'moolavars' with all manner of "aabharaNam-s" (jewellery 
of gold, diamond, precious gemstones, what not)? Surely, all the 
heavy jewellery covering the idol (head-to-foot as in some of our 
temples) must be negatively interfering with, why even diminishing, 
all the positive energy the granite is said to generate?

Can scientific-minded members please throw some light?

Thanks and regards,

dAsan,
Sudarshan 



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