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Dear Swamin,

I humbly request the moderator to filter any
inflamatory messages. I strongly believe some of the
sectarian feelings are started to heal in our
generation and we should not allow them to pop up
again. We are having more in common than our
differences and we should leverage that. At the same
time we can allow members to discuss on our various
samparadayam without hurting others feeling.

Thanks,
Dasan.
--- narsimhan csl <cslnarsimhan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Dear Bhagavatottamas,
> 
> I am referring to the mail of Sri M Sadagopan swamy.
> The statements which he is making about 1-4 pattam
> jeers of Sri Ahobila Mutt are factually incorrect. 
> I dont think Sri Chinnjeer swamy would have allowed
> such a writing in Bhakti Nivedana. I would like to
> see the copy of this posting. Even, if such a thing
> exists, in my opinion it must be due to some error
> and cannot be intentional.
> 
> The second aspect, which I really am not able to
> understand is the connection between Azhwar
> thriunagari practice and his above claim about 1-4
> pattam jeers of Ahobila Mutt. 
> 
> Over all, I really dont understand why such a topic
> is to be discussed in this forum. 
> 
> As a memmber of Sri Ranga Sri group, I will surely
> request Anbil Swamy, the moderator to disallow such
> postings which are of inflammatory nature and really
> lead us no where except negative impact.
> 
> Sajjana Pada Padma parama renuhu
> 
> Lakshmi Narasimha dasan
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> vijay.iyengar@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Sriman M.Sadagopan
> Mama,
> 
> After reading your mail, I believe if I really
> resided in Melkote or not.
> 
> I have resided in Tirunarayanapuram (Melkote) for a
> period of 3 years.
> The only Kidambi family which is there, were
> responsible for the 
> Aradhanam at Sri Desikar Sannidhi on the Market
> Street (Pete Beedhi in
> Kannada). They belong to the Vadakalai Sampradayaam.
> Their thirumaligai
> is in front of the telephone exchange in Melkote. I
> don't know anyother
> Kidambi family residing there. The Kidambi family I
> have mentioned are
> also my relatives.
> 
> Can you please let me know who from Melkote belong
> to the Kidambi 
> family other than this family?
> 
> Adiyen,
> Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan.
> Hungary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:      M.Sadagopan
> [mailto:harini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent:      Tue 7/27/2004 10:35 PM
> To:      Sadagopan
> Cc:      ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> jetusa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Vanamamali;
> srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [ramanuja] RE: [SriRangaSri] Ahobila
> mutt jeer history: From 1398 to Now ! ( REFERENCE :
> PAADHUKA JEERNOTTHARANA  KAIMKARYAM )
> 
> Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
> 
> The story related to Alwarthirunagari is not
> acceptable. As I Belong to
> Alwarthirunagari divyadesam, entire temple premises
> and Namalwar utsvar was
> reinstalled by Swamy Thiruvoimozhipillai. There is
> no evidence of shiva
> temple present in the existing temple area. History
> is saying that
> surrounding temple area with so many tamrind trees,
> seems like forest. Swamy
> TP identified the thiruppuli and made arrangement to
> cut all the tamrind
> trees except thirupuli and renovated and reinstalled
> shrine. Swamy TP is
> then called satakopa dasan and stiil in Alwar
> koil,system is practicing  the
> Swamy TP thiruvamsathar named as satakopa dasan
> during all arulappadu time.
> They are receiving mudal theertham and after
> thirumanjanam swamy vamsathar
> are offering thirunamam and srichoornam.
> 
>   Neither current practice prevailing nor any
> evidence in local history
> suggest anyone else's name other than Swamy TP. It
> will be an error of
> history to accept that sayings of 33rd Jeeyar about
> the first five jeeyars .
> The very fact that none of the jeeyars betwwem 6th
> and 32nd, whowhere of the
> same period or closer period, have ever refuted
> historical facts that the
> first five jeeyars were of thenacharaya sampradhaya.
> Even now in Melkote,
> there are descendent of first  jeeyar of ahobila
> mutt who are in Thenkalai
> sampradhayam.
> 
> 
> Adiyen
> Satakopa Ramanuja Dasan
> 
> 
> -From: Sadagopan [mailto:sgopan@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:18 PM
> To: Ponnappan; Sgt; DS; Swami; Iowa
> Cc: SRS; Srikanth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; srihi
> Subject: [SriRangaSri] Ahobila mutt jeer history:
> From 1398 to Now ! (
> REFERENCE : PAADHUKA JEERNOTTHARANA KAIMKARYAM )
> 
> 
> Dear BhakthAs :
> 
> The following write up from Ahobila Matam
> web pages would be of interest to many of you .
> 
> I thank the web Master of the Ahobila Mutt pages
> for his courtesy to make use of this information .
> 
> The PaadhukA JeerNOttharaNa Kaimkaryam is
> proceeding well since its start on July 17 .
> 
> All Paadhukais of PoorvAchAryAs except the following
> have been spoken for :
> 
> 20 Pattams: 4 , 5 , 8 , 10, 11, 16 , 17 through 24 ,
> 27 , 31 through 34 , 36 .
> 
> The remaining 25 Pattams have either been spoken for
> or Completed . Please contact me for additional
> information .
> 
> Meanwhile please enjoy reading the full history of
> an ancient Matam and its great AchAryAs !
> 
> V.Sadagopan
> 
> ILLUSTRIOUS HISTORY OF SRI MATAM
> *************************************************
> 
> Place: Kancheepuram, the Kshetra, called the most
> important among
> the seven cities that give liberation( MOksham) .
> 
> Time: Just before dawn of the day (1398 C.E.).
> Young Srinivasacharya, hardly twenty years of age,
> wakes up in an exciting
> mood. The dream he witnessed a little while ago is
> the cause of it. Lord
> Lakshmeenarasimha of Ahobilam appeared before him,
> commanding him to come to
> Ahobilam, don the robe of a sanyasi and be
> instructed in his future mission
> of life there. Could this vision be true, he kept
> asking himself again and
> again. Ahobilam, of course he knew and worship there
> is not an unusual
> occurrence in those days of pilgrimage; but that God
> should have chosen HIM
> of all people left him amazed. He went about his
> morning ablutions as usual
> but in the same ecstatic mind. He then hurried to
> his Guru the well known
> Gatikasatham Ammal and told him of his vision. The
> old Master also known as
> Varadavishnvacharya told his disciple
> Srinivasacharya to obey the mandate.
> So he wended his way to Ahobilam. Having arrived
> there, he climbed the hill
> amidst dense forest (which Thirumangai Azhvar
> describes as one which none
> can reach except God), had a dip in the river
> Bhavanasini and took up abode
> in that wilderness. Meanwhile Mukundaraya, the local
> chieftain also reached
> the, place to receive him on divine command. Lord
> Narasimha appeared before
> Srinivasacharya in the form of a sanyasi and
> initiated him with the
> "Preshmantra", gave him 'Sanyasa asrama''' and named
> him 'Satakopa Jeeyar'.
> Thus was born Sri Ahobila Mutt and its First Jeeyar.
> 
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