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Dear Swamin,
1.Lord Krishna says' Anth kale Cha mam ekam saranam vrija'-
Where is this?Â
Not in the Bhagavadgita.
Perhaps you meant this verse:
anta kaale cha maam evaÂ
smaran muktvaa kaLevaram|
yah prayaati sa madbhaavam
yaati naastyatra samshayah ||BG8-5||
5Those who think
only about me even at the time of deathÂ
will undoubtedly attain my state; they will
certainly be united with me!Â
Âthen he follows it with:
6Whatever the state of
mind that prevails at the time of death, that very state one will attain,ÂÂ
because, those thoughts truly are a
reflection of the kind of life one has lived!Â
(Remember JaDa Bahrata's metaphor- he got attached to a fawn and
Âthat is what he became)
7Therefore, at all times, remember me even in combat.
With your mind and intellect fixed on me,Â
you surely will come to me only.ÂÂ
If you look at the context here, it becomes quite clear. Lord's advise is for us to make it a habit
of being connected with the Lord always. This is not a requirement for moksham, but only advice.Â
ÂIf this is not possible, of courseÂwe have the charama shlokam (BG18-66). Just surrender!
>2.In Mahabharat Lord Krishna takes away ' from Karna all his darma palan which protects him and then tells Arjuna to send his asthra to kill Karna.But ' Is not giving away one's punya is the supreme punya and palan only multiplies and it should have protected karna?
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Karna deserved what he got. Remember, Krishna treats people as they deserve to be treated.
He is no fool like Bheeshma, ÂGandhi or Nehru, who failed to Âtreat others as they deserved to be treated.
The way Karna behaved, when Draupadi was being disrobed, he deserved nothing less than death at the
right time- Karna also did not listen to Krishna's advice (not to fight on Kaurava side).
Karna has been made great by Shivaji Ganeshan!
dAsan
K.S. tAtAchAr
-----Original Message-----
From: Vasan Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rangarajan L <lriyengar@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 8:50 am
Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] query
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SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA
It is true that untakala smriti is necessary.but for prapanna,Lord says in VARAHA charama shloka that one who chants my name when he is healthy,i will remember him & take him to my abode.Here acharyas comment that when the lord remembers a jeeva,the jeeva is bound to remember the lord on the deathbed & hence fulfill lord's requirement in Gita.
dasanÂ
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 Rangarajan L wrote :
>Respected swamins,
>
>Will any one enlighten adiyen me on the following.
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>1.Lord Krishna says' Anth kale Cha mam ekam saranam vrija'- meaning 'at the last moment also surrender unto me alone'
>Prabhandam says, ' Naman thamargal nalindu ennai patrumbodu nan unnai ninaikamatten
>appodaiku ippode solli vaithen Arangatharavanai palliyane'.
> In One we pray Lord Ranganatha that 'I can not think of YOU in my last moment ,so I thinkof you now.for our Moksham.But Lord Krishna expects to think of Him at the last moment also for Moksham.
>Pl enlighten.
>
>2.In Mahabharat Lord Krishna takes away ' from Karna all his darma palan which protects him and then tells Arjuna to send his asthra to kill Karna.But ' Is not giving away one's punya is the supreme punya and palan only multiplies and it should have protected karna?
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>Adiyen
>Rangarajan.
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