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Dear Bhagavatas:
Here is an interesting article that appeared in a sister website on the date 
of birth of Lord KrishNa.
Dasoham
Anbil Ramaswamy
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--- "Balasubramanian A.S" <asrbala@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 03:13:41 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "Balasubramanian A.S" <asrbala@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Fwd: FW: An interesting article on Lord
>Krishna
>Note: forwarded message attached.
>A S Balasubramanian
>Subject: FW: An interesting article on Lord Krishna
>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:50:32 +0200

Thanks Bala!
Sudarshan



>Krishna (b. July 21, 3228 BC)
>With some deft computer astrology, mythic Krishna
>gets a date of birth, and
>some planetary influence
>
>SMITA MITRA
>
>Even gods come to earth with their destinies chalked
>out for them. So
>claims astrology, at any rate.  So when Arun K.
>Bansal, the father of
>computer astrology in India, says that Hindu god
>Krishna was born on July
>21, 3228 bc, it feels momentous somehow. The date
>essentially transforms
>
>Krishna, The Man
>
>Krishna in our minds: from a mythological figure of
>mystery, even if a
>much-loved one, into well a flesh and blood entity.
>You can almost see him
>gurgling in Yashodaâ??s lap as Rishi Garg performs
>his naming ceremony in a
>cow shed more than 50 centuries ago.
>But backtracking into the past can be a sloppy
>misadventure if you donâ??t
>get your calculations right. So Bansal rests his
>claims on two of his
>software packagesâ??the Leo Gold and the Palm
>computer programmes. They can
>simulate any planetary configuration that has
>occurred or could occur in
>time.
>All they need is a date. And July 21, 3228 bc,
>according to Bansal,
>satisfies every condition described during
>Krishnaâ??s birth.
>
>With Saturn in his seventh house, Krishna was fated
>to court many women;
>Jupiter in Leo destined him to be estranged from his
>mother.
>
>Krishna was born in the Rohini nakshatra, in the
>Hindu month of Bhadrapada,
>on the 8th day of the waning moon at midnight.
>Bansal says this was enough
>information for him to nail the date, working
>backwards from Krishnaâ??s
>death, which he says occurred at 2 pm on February
>18, 3102 bc.
>His  entire case rests on the accuracy of this date,
>however. Bansal quotes
>extensively from the Shrimad Bhagwat and the Shri
>Vishnu Puranas, old Hindu
>calendars and the Mahabharata to illuminate the
>clues he chose to follow.
>"A shloka in the 38th chapter of the Shri Vishnu
>Puran, says that Kaliyuga
>started on the day Krishna died." He unearths
>another shloka in the Shrimad
>Bhagwat Purana (part 11, chapter 6) where Brahma
>himself speaks to Krishna
>about how old he is. "Brahma says that 125 years
>have passed since
>Krishnaâ??s birth; this is just before Krishna plans
>his death."
>Though not empirically verifiable, the advent of
>Kaliyuga is traditionally
>taken to be 3102 bc, because all our panchangas or
>astrological journals
>maintain that 5,100 years of Kaliyuga had passed
>before 1999 AD. The belief
>is supported by mathematician Aryabhattaâ??s
>astronomy treatise Aryabhattiya,
>the Surya Siddhanta, an astronomical text that dates
>back to 400 AD, and a
>5th century inscription from a temple in Aihole.
>Deleting 125 years from
>the date, Bansal figured Krishna was born either in
>3327 or 3228 bc. The
>rest he left up to his software, merely feeding in
>the planetary
>configuration that Krishna was supposedly born
>under, to generate the row
>of figures that conforms to the epochal moment.
>Would astrology have thrown any light on what such
>an individual may have
>been like? Outlook asked Bansal to create a birth
>chart based on the date.
>His computer churns out 15 pages sectioned under
>tantalising headings like
>Love & Romance, Appearance, Personality, and
>Journeys. With Saturn in his
>seventh house, he would have been fated to court
>many womenâ??enter Radha,
>the gopis and later his 16,108 wives. But since the
>seventh house was also
>under the sign of Scorpio, which guarantees a joyful
>marital life, heâ??d
>also have had the power to keep them happy despite
>having to divide his
>attentions among them. An attractive appearance and
>personality would have
>come from the exalted moon under the sign of Taurus.
>Jupiter and the
>exalted Mercury in the fifth house will have
>conferred intelligence and
>oratory skills. Fame and power would have come from
>Ketu in the 9th house,
>though it would also have forced him to lead a life
>away from his
>birthplace.
>Certainly stray statements do conform eerily to
>Krishnaâ??s attributed
>qualities. "Endowed with a glowing complexion, you
>have bright eyes and an
>enchanting smile." Under personality comesâ??"You
>have great fancy for music,
>moonlight and money".
>
>
>Even the Bhagwad Gita seems to have its origin in
>his birth chart; it
>predicts that a person born under this astral spread
>would have been a
>great believer in karma who would advise others
>about karma and noble
>deeds. But there are a few adverse planetary
>configurations to contend
>with. The chart describes a life of continuous
>strife, peppered with
>battles and wars because Rahu, Mars and Venus are in
>the third house. Due
>to the location of Jupiter in Leo, he would also
>have been destined to be
>estranged from his motherâ??or mothers in his case.
>With plans to announce
>the results of his research at the Somnath temple
>during this yearâ??s
>Janmashtami festival for Krishnaâ??s birthday,
>Bansal says that even the
>templeâ??s priests concur with his findings.
>"Another pandit, Shri Gyananda
>Saraswati in Benaras, who will come to the
>celebration in Somnath, has also
>come up with the same dates." At peace with his
>research, Bansal prefers to
>turn a blind eye to the long, long line of
>astrologers, godmen, NASA
>scientists, mathematicians and writers stretching
>all the way back to
>Aryabhatta who have worked on the same thing. They
>all quote the same
>scriptures, taking into account some or all of the
>astral happenings
>recorded in great detail, especially the ones during
>the calamitous time of
>the Mahabharata war, when Krishna was said to have
>been 90 years old. These
>include rare astronomical happenings like the solar
>and lunar eclipse that
>occurred consecutively in the space of a month just
>before the war, a
>fortnight that lasted only for 13 days instead of 15
>when the moon was
>waning, and a comet that burned through the skies.
>Also, the planetary
>positions recorded during the Mahabharata war were
>roughly replicated 36
>years later, when Krishna died. Most scholars prefer
>to concentrate on the
>Mahabharata war where a significant cluster of
>astronomical events
>occurred, before zooming onto their own set of dates
>that binds down the
>life of the eighth avatar of Vishnu in a specific
>time-frame. But the
>dates, while drawn from the same source, strain in
>opposite directions. At
>a colloquium organised by the Mythic Society in
>Bangalore in January last
>year, dates as wide as 1478 bc to 3067 bc were
>proposed. Contributors
>included S. Balakrishna (from NASA, US), using
>Lodestar Pro software, who
>proposed 2559 bc as the start of the war. Prof R.N.
>Iyengar (from the
>Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore) brought the
>event closer
>historically, suggesting the date 1478 bc, while
>B.N. Narahari Achar
>(Department of Physics, University of Memphis, US)
>after "critically
>examining" the astronomical events in the
>Mahabharata pointed to 3067 bc.
>Authors like P.V. Vartak push back the date of the
>Mahabharata much
>further, to 5561 bc. Swami Prakashanand Saraswati,
>in his book, The True
>History and the Religion of India, comes up with the
>same dates as Bansal
>does. Considering that there are 150 astronomical
>references provided about
>the characters and events in the Mahabharata in one
>lakh-odd shlokas, there
>is little consensus on what information is worth
>concentrating on. In
>addition, there is reason to believe that our
>scriptures "grew" over time,
>incorporating events of every period. So there is
>precious little we can
>attribute collectively to one age. Many scholars in
>fact wonder if all the
>references to Krishna in the scriptures refer to one
>person or whether the
>Krishna of Vrindavan and the Krishna of the
>Mahabharata are two different
>people. But then searching for that mythical date
>wouldnâ??t be half as
>engaging if the process werenâ??t so complicated.
>Any wonder that even though
>the gods have destinies, they prefer we view them
>through fogged glasses?
>





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