From wpercy1 at metalab.unc.edu Wed Nov 7 09:06:12 2001 From: wpercy1 at metalab.unc.edu (Henry P. Mills) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:06:12 -0600 Subject: Test Message Message-ID: This is a test message following removal of all email addresses put on hold from bounced messages. Please disregard. From wpercy1 at mail.ibiblio.org Mon Nov 12 22:35:32 2001 From: wpercy1 at mail.ibiblio.org (Henry P. Mills) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:35:32 -0600 Subject: PERCY-L BACK ONLINE Message-ID: Dear Percy-L: The listserv is now operational. Thank you for your patience during what should have been the last major transition problem. All defective email addresses have now been removed from the list engine. As a matter of good practice, I am also forwarding for a second time a copy of the "Updated Percy-L Guidelines" through the list at this time. Please read if you haven't already done so and archive a copy in your mailbox for future reference. Thank you, Henry Mills __________________________________________________________________________ Henry P. Mills, Director & Editor THE WALKER PERCY EDUCATIONAL PROJECT, INC. An Internet Literary Center Promoting the significant legacy of the 20th Century American author and philosopher, Walker Percy Hosted by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy Send s-mail to: P.O. Box 3561 Austin, TX 78764 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Subscribe to PERCY-L! Send an email to WPERCY1 at IBIBLIO.ORG with the following line in the body: subscribe PERCY-L YourFirst Name YourLastName (Listserv courtesy of UNC-Chapel Hill) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| The Walker Percy Project is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization. _________________________________________________________________________ From wpercy1 at mail.ibiblio.org Tue Nov 13 09:10:47 2001 From: wpercy1 at mail.ibiblio.org (Henry P. Mills) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:10:47 -0600 Subject: Updated Percy-L Guidelines (Please Read) Message-ID: Dear Percy-L: With the new list service in operation, the time is good for revisiting the Percy-L guidelines, which have now been updated. Please take a few minutes to review the guidelines and save this document for future reference. In particular, I call your attention to Parts IV and V, most notably the new "special considerations" section at the end of IV. Both sections provide an overview of communal responsibilities and suggestions for improving the quality of discussion for list members. If all members will take the time to review and put to use the Percy-L guidelines as follows, we all stand to benefit from the base they provide for our discussion and our community. As usual, please send any questions or comments you may have to: . The online version of the guidelines is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/list-guidelines.html Sincerely, Henry Mills Director, The Walker Percy Project _______________________________________________ WELCOME TO THE PERCY-L GUIDELINES New Users: Please read and save for future reference. (I) How to Join Percy-L (II) How do a Keyword Search of the Archives (III) Basic Percy-L Instructions (IV) Percy-L Policies (V) Posting Tips ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (I) To join Percy-L: Send an e-mail to with the following line in the body: subscribe PERCY-L YourFirstName YourLastName Further information will be automatically forwarded to you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (II) To do a KEYWORD Search of the Percy-L Hypermail Archives: Go to: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/search.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (III) Basic Percy-L Instructions (for list subscribers only) 1) Send email messages for group viewing to: 2) Send administrative concerns to the list manager: 3) You may leave the list at any time by clicking on the "List-Unsubscribe" link found in the header of messages you receive. Each subscriber is given a separate subscriber number that is embedded in the unsubscribe link. 4) To re-subscribe to PERCY-L, simply click on the "List-Subscribe" link in the email header of a list message you received, or send an email to: . 5) All messages are archived at the following address: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (IV) Percy-L Policies A. GENERAL The Percy-L forum is open to the discussion of all topics pertaining to the work and thought of the American novelist and philosopher Walker Percy. Students, general readers, and scholars are all welcome, as well as simply the curious. There is no standing agenda for the list except the promotion of commentary of the sort which one would expect from people with a special interest in Percy. As such, the list will remain unmoderated unless some future reason requires it. A diverse range of critical perspectives is therefore welcomed, if not encouraged, as long as the manner and method of expression are responsible to and respectful of the parties to whom they are addressed. B. INTRODUCING YOURSELF Please consider introducing yourself to the other mailing list users even if you plan to participate only as an observer. The more we all know what our various interests are, the more likely it is that someone will address them in some way. Then, too, even though the mailing list is first of all a means of communication, it will also hopefully develop into a growing community resource, only to become all the more valuable the more we contribute useful information to it and establish connections with each other. C. INTRODUCING TOPICS You should feel free to introduce a new topic for discussion or to respond to an existing "thread" or line of thought already in process at any time, as you see fit. This medium of communication takes multiple "threads" of discourse to be a given: anyone can enter into the discussion at any time, just as those already involved in it can pay as much or as little attention to whatever is of interest to them. Needless to say, both patience and tolerance are encouraged in all matters related to the mailing list, for electronic discussion of this sort is fraught with the potential for misunderstanding, even as it provides for new channels of discussion. If no one responds to your posts, you should not assume that it is because of a lack of interest, or that your post is perceived as unimportant. Frequently, the interested reader just doesn't have time to respond, and few of us have time to answer more than a small percentage of the ones that are of interest to us in any case. Therefore, pose your questions and comments well by your own standards, and remind yourself that, even if there is no overt response, what you have said or asked will be read by a large body of people. And who is to say in what way ripples may occur? If overt response is important to you, then wait a month or so and try your query again. D. REPLYING TO TOPICS In replying to posted topics, you should provide a beginning line in the message itself in which you indicate to whom you are replying and about what (brevity is encouraged when it comes to quoting). For the same reason, you should also have a closing signature line or block in all of your messages that identifies who you are. How much information you wish to provide about yourself is up to you, but the participants need enough information about your identity to keep track of the conversational flow. E. A NOTE ON THE NATURE OF GROUP DISCUSSIONS Group discussions are not meant to be exclusively personal, and when people reply to others individually and address them as such, this does not mean that the discussion has become "personal" in the sense that it would best be conducted off-list. In other words, the personal and the private are considered to be separate in a listserv environment. Rather, the question at hand is whether the discussion concerns topics of broader interest to the purposes of the mailing list as a whole. It is therefore more than acceptable to pursue special interests in public electronic-based discussions of this sort as long as there is nothing exclusive of others in it, either explicitly or in tone. However, if you have any problems about topics being posted or in connection with the receipt or posting of your own messages, please contact the list manager. F. SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS In order to maintain the smooth flow of discussion as well as be mindful of several technical considerations related to Percy-L, please observe the following: --Discussion 1. Avoid introducing political topics, unless they directly bear on or are explicitly related to Percy and his thought. This rule does not exclude current events from discussion, but merely underscores that this is a listserv dedicated to Percy topics. 2. Please do not forward outside announcements through the list unless a case can be made for a direct connection to Percy and the interests of those who have joined the list. If in doubt, contact the list manager at . --Technical 1) Please send all messages through the listserv as plain text messages rather than HTML-encoded. Not everyone's email client supports HTML-encoded messages and further they cause a conflict with the list's archiving system. For this reason, messages sent through the list in HTML format will not be archived. Check the preference settings on your specific email client to determine in what format your messages are being sent. (If you have the option of adding bold, italics, or font size to your email text, you are using HTML-encoded email.) This same rule barring HTML-encoded emails also applies to external HTML documents you place in your email messages. Do not paste these as HTML, but rather as text. 2) Please do not send images through the listserv. If you wish for members to see a particular image, place it on a website and then direct the members of the list to it with a URL included in your message. Since some members use a dial-up connection, this tactic provides users with the option of viewing the image, and hence will limit frustration with download times associated with the list. 3) Lastly, please do not forward any large attachments through the list. This rule also limits member frustration with download times. If you have a particular document to share that relates to Percy, please make certain that its size is no more than 100kb. Also, be mindful of sending the document in a format that will be readily accessible by all, for instance, Microsoft Word or Adobe PDF. Alternatively, you can cut-and-paste the contents of your document directly into the body of the email. Since this method presents the document in a text-only format, the size of the document will be considerably smaller. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (V) Posting tips to help message archiving for future readers 1) Please quote messages you are replying to sparingly, using your cut, paste, and delete functions. A "reader-friendly" message has a better chance of being responded to. 2) Avoid short, personal comments along the lines of "I agree," etc. that do not significantly advance Percy-content discussion. These would best be submitted solely to the person they are intended for rather than to the listserv address (i.e., the entire group). Please be mindful of the time of the list members--many, in fact, belong to multiple mailing lists--by only submitting posts that in some shape or form better the interests of the entire community. 3) Always fill in the "subject" box of your email to help readers identify your topic of discussion. 4) Remember that if you use the "reply" command to a message you have received through the list, your message will be distributed publicly to all members of the list. In contrast, if you want to have private correspondence with someone who has sent a message through the list, you must create a "new" e-mail and address it specifically to him or her lest the entire list read your message. 5) To help individual members of the Percy-L community follow the context of your comments, strive to be mindful of your use of quoting and quote identification methods. For example, consider beginning responses as follows: At 06:18 PM 9/17/96 -0600, Binx Bolling wrote: >I am on a search! > Then add your own comments about the text in question (i.e., Binx's search). In turn, if you add other quotes to your message from multiple posts, repeat the process so it is clear where the material came from. As always, the better crafted and referenced your message, the more likely it will generate thoughtful response from the community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send questions or comments about this document to: wpercy1 at ibiblio.org Henry P. Mills Last revised: 10/01 From wpercy1 at metalab.unc.edu Wed Nov 14 09:03:46 2001 From: wpercy1 at metalab.unc.edu (Henry P. Mills) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:03:46 -0600 Subject: Name that quote... Message-ID: Dear Percy-L: Anyone able to help Tracy? Henry Mills ____________________________ From: "Tracy Hindman" To: Subject: 11/11/2001 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:09:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Status: In one of Percy's novels, the protagonist says that recently he figured out the meaning of life (or the key to life, something along these lines) and says that he would share it but he can't remember what it was. I would like to use this quote in a paper I'm writing on the theme of "forgetting" and how this affects human identity. Do you know which novel this might be? And if you do know, approximately where it occurs in the novel (beginning, middle, end)? Any help you can give would be much appreciated. Thanks, Tracy Hindman From brian at neuschwander.org Wed Nov 14 11:04:05 2001 From: brian at neuschwander.org (BrianNeuschwander) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:04:05 -0800 Subject: Name that quote... References: Message-ID: <3BF295F5.AAC8C492@neuschwander.org> Check the beach scene in Moviegoer. And if you find it, be sure to report back! Thanks. Brian. From doneskey at swau.edu Thu Nov 15 11:27:48 2001 From: doneskey at swau.edu (Renard Doneskey) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:27:48 -0600 Subject: Meaning of life reference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20011115102748.00f20218@cosmic.swau.edu> Regarding Traci's request about the meaning of life: I think you may be refering to a section in the novel Lancelot. Before I quote it, I'd like to note that Lance's view is very distorted. His idea must be placed in the context of the whole novel--to excise it like this is a gross misrepresentation of Percy and the theme of Lancelot as a whole. With that said, here goes: ----- "The great secret of the ages is that man has evolved, is born, lived, and dies for one end and one end only: to commit a sexual assault on another human or to submit to such an assault. Everyone else man does is so much bushwwa and you know it and I know it and everyody knows it. Women have only just now discovered the secret, or part of it, the monstrous absurdity of it. Can you blame them for being outraged? Yet even more absurd are their pathetic attempts, once having made the discovery which men are too dumb to make, to pretend it isn't so, to cover it up, or to blame it on men. What the poor dears discovered is the monstrous truth lying at the very center of life: that their happiness and the meaning of life is to be assaulted by a man. Ah, sweet mystery of life indeed, indeed yes, exactly, yes indeed that is what it is: to be rammed, jammed, stuck, stabbed, pinned, impaled, run through, in a word: Raped." ----- That's from Lancelot, Chapter VIII. In the Ivy books paper back, it's pp. 206-07. Renard