From hpmills3 at austin.rr.com Sat Nov 22 18:10:26 2003 From: hpmills3 at austin.rr.com (Henry Mills) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:10:26 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia Message-ID: Dear Percy-L: Anyone care to respond to or elaborate for Ms. Plottel? Henry Mills ------ Forwarded Message > From: tina plottel > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:36:39 -0500 > To: > Subject: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia > > Hello... > > I'm a student at Catholic University in the Masters of Library Science > program. > > I'm looking for a very specific answer to a very specific reference question > we were given in a class exercise: what is the name of the protagonist in > Walker Percy's fiction who suffers from dissociative fugue (a type of > amnesia in which a person loses recall of his or her past, with the > formation of a new identity and travel away from home. > > Can you help?? > > Thank you, > > Tina Plottel > ------ End of Forwarded Message From daveduty at austin.rr.com Sat Nov 22 18:21:45 2003 From: daveduty at austin.rr.com (Dave Duty) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:21:45 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3FBFEF89.4080700@austin.rr.com> Will Barrett from The Last Gentleman -- I believe -- Dave Duty Henry Mills wrote: >Dear Percy-L: > >Anyone care to respond to or elaborate for Ms. Plottel? > >Henry Mills > > >------ Forwarded Message > > >>From: tina plottel >>Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:36:39 -0500 >>To: >>Subject: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia >> >>Hello... >> >>I'm a student at Catholic University in the Masters of Library Science >>program. >> >>I'm looking for a very specific answer to a very specific reference question >>we were given in a class exercise: what is the name of the protagonist in >>Walker Percy's fiction who suffers from dissociative fugue (a type of >>amnesia in which a person loses recall of his or her past, with the >>formation of a new identity and travel away from home. >> >>Can you help?? >> >>Thank you, >> >>Tina Plottel >> >> >> > >------ End of Forwarded Message > > > >-- > >An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > >Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chaslow53 at aol.com Sat Nov 22 19:45:01 2003 From: chaslow53 at aol.com (chaslow53 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:45:01 EST Subject: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia Message-ID: <4f.37599eb9.2cf15d0d@aol.com> Yes, Williston Bibb Barrett, to be precise. In The Last Gentleman there is a lengthy description--a dozen pages or so--of his mental condition before his name is even mentioned. I only know this because The Last Gentleman is the latest novel I read. Having said that, I note that I am a new (three or four days) member of this list. I was sternly admonished by the anonymous listmaster to introduce myself to the list. I'm afraid there is not much: I'm in the professional publishing business in New York, I live in Brooklyn with a wife and a couple of children, I'm an ordinary middle-aged (well, if I'm going to live to 108, I'm exactly at middle age), middle class, fairly conservative Catholic whose Latin skills are somewhat above the average of the general population and whose mechanical skills are considerably below that of the general population. I came to WP through a co-worker who told me at a job interview that Walker Percy was her favorite author and The Moviegoer was her favorite novel; she was a fairly recent college graduate, an English major, and I could think of nothing else to ask. My curiosity was piqued and I read The Moviegoer, and then The Second Coming. I was hooked and read through them all, except Lancelot, which I picked up today. Fortunately, the Jets and Giants are so frightful that they will offer no plausible distraction for tomorrow's reading. 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Don't have a copy here so cannot check on my flawed memory. Percy himself was, I guess you could say, subject to fits and fugues, but that's a topic for another day. Tonight I'm wondering about that day forty years ago, that mad dream that they've been re-playing endlessly on the TV for the past week. I was dumping a slop bucket onto a compost pile in Madison, Wisconsin, when our landlord came out of his door and said that the President had been shot in Dallas. A few months later (partly to keep faith with some of JFK's inaugural words), I went to the Middle East. Six years later I returned to the US aware that that part of the world (which, despite our tendency towards poltical fugues and national amnesia, gave us our ideas of history and invented most of our gods) would have much more to do than Vietnam with our ultimate destiny as a nation. Yeats nailed it in "Second Coming." Or did he? In the summer of 2002, the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem was filled with gunmen and surrounded by tanks. Nothing happened. The skies didn't crack open. Isn't it Hegel who compared history to a butcher's table dripping with fresh blood? Apologies to Chuck and the others for this muttering. Thoughts of an old man's brain in a terrible season. Marcus Smith From: chaslow53 at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:45:01 EST ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Yes, Williston Bibb Barrett, to be precise. In The Last > Gentleman there is a lengthy description--a dozen pages > or so--of his mental condition before his name is even > mentioned. > > I only know this because The Last Gentleman is the latest > novel I read. Having said that, I note that I am a new > (three or four days) member of this list. > I was sternly admonished by the anonymous listmaster to > introduce myself to the list. > > I'm afraid there is not much: I'm in the professional > publishing business in New York, I live in Brooklyn with > a wife and a couple of children, I'm an ordinary > middle-aged (well, if I'm going to live to 108, I'm > exactly at middle age), middle class, fairly conservative > Catholic whose Latin skills are somewhat above the > average of the general population and whose mechanical > skills are considerably below that of the general > population. > > I came to WP through a co-worker who told me at a job > interview that Walker Percy was her favorite author and > The Moviegoer was her favorite novel; she was a fairly > recent college graduate, an English major, and I could > think of nothing else to ask. My curiosity was piqued > and I read The Moviegoer, and then The Second Coming. I > was hooked and read through them all, except Lancelot, > which I picked up today. Fortunately, the Jets and Giants > are so frightful that they will offer no plausible > distraction for tomorrow's reading. > > Chuck Lowry > Brooklyn, New York > chaslow53 at aol.com > > -- > > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Sun Nov 23 22:56:49 2003 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:56:49 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia References: <4f.37599eb9.2cf15d0d@aol.com> Message-ID: Welcome to the list, Chuck. Hope you enjoy Lancelot--Without it, The Second Coming wouldn't be possible, I think, as it represents a sort of philosophical victory for Percy which TSC depends on. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: chaslow53 at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia Yes, Williston Bibb Barrett, to be precise. In The Last Gentleman there is a lengthy description--a dozen pages or so--of his mental condition before his name is even mentioned. I only know this because The Last Gentleman is the latest novel I read. Having said that, I note that I am a new (three or four days) member of this list. I was sternly admonished by the anonymous listmaster to introduce myself to the list. I'm afraid there is not much: I'm in the professional publishing business in New York, I live in Brooklyn with a wife and a couple of children, I'm an ordinary middle-aged (well, if I'm going to live to 108, I'm exactly at middle age), middle class, fairly conservative Catholic whose Latin skills are somewhat above the average of the general population and whose mechanical skills are considerably below that of the general population. I came to WP through a co-worker who told me at a job interview that Walker Percy was her favorite author and The Moviegoer was her favorite novel; she was a fairly recent college graduate, an English major, and I could think of nothing else to ask. My curiosity was piqued and I read The Moviegoer, and then The Second Coming. I was hooked and read through them all, except Lancelot, which I picked up today. Fortunately, the Jets and Giants are so frightful that they will offer no plausible distraction for tomorrow's reading. Chuck Lowry Brooklyn, New York chaslow53 at aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Sun Nov 23 23:01:40 2003 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:01:40 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia References: Message-ID: Hmmm--In TSC, Will takes that bus ride, but overall, the fugues are better once he's with Allie, and hers are caused by the shock treatment. In TSC, Will remembers everything--he remembers his father and the hunting accident and what it all means. But in LG, he loses track of Kitty at one point, and references the time he ended up in working in a greenhouse in Wisconsin or some such place at another point, just to name two. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Alan Beck To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia Isn't the disorder more prevalent in The Second Coming On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 chaslow53 at aol.com wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] David Beck -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Sun Nov 23 23:09:53 2003 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:09:53 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia References: <3fc0102f.2eb.8f2058.7439@loyno.edu> Message-ID: Thanks for the musings, Marcus. Seems as though the Eliot reference might be a bit of a hard judgment on yourself, though, if I remember GERONTION correctly--it's one of my favorites. The Yeats as well--that one seems to gain strength as time passes; so much for entropy in regard to art perhaps. Oddly enough, I find looking back at the '60s hopeful, although for me it's entirely through the lens of history, since I was only four when that decade ended. If all that happened then didn't smash the country into a million pieces, then surely we can handle the present and future, even if we don't as a people always do so as gracefully as we might wish. On Percy--Doesn't memory, the lack thereof or the hauntings by, play a prominent part in all but maybe LOVE IN THE RUINS? ----- Original Message ----- From: marcus at loyno.edu To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia Welcome, Chuck, Your profile makes you an almost perfect Percy character. I seem to recall that Binx refers to movies which focus on a (male) character who suffers from amnesia. Don't have a copy here so cannot check on my flawed memory. Percy himself was, I guess you could say, subject to fits and fugues, but that's a topic for another day. Tonight I'm wondering about that day forty years ago, that mad dream that they've been re-playing endlessly on the TV for the past week. I was dumping a slop bucket onto a compost pile in Madison, Wisconsin, when our landlord came out of his door and said that the President had been shot in Dallas. A few months later (partly to keep faith with some of JFK's inaugural words), I went to the Middle East. Six years later I returned to the US aware that that part of the world (which, despite our tendency towards poltical fugues and national amnesia, gave us our ideas of history and invented most of our gods) would have much more to do than Vietnam with our ultimate destiny as a nation. Yeats nailed it in "Second Coming." Or did he? In the summer of 2002, the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem was filled with gunmen and surrounded by tanks. Nothing happened. The skies didn't crack open. Isn't it Hegel who compared history to a butcher's table dripping with fresh blood? Apologies to Chuck and the others for this muttering. Thoughts of an old man's brain in a terrible season. Marcus Smith From: chaslow53 at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FWD: walker percy and dissociative fugue/amnesia Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:45:01 EST ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Yes, Williston Bibb Barrett, to be precise. In The Last > Gentleman there is a lengthy description--a dozen pages > or so--of his mental condition before his name is even > mentioned. > > I only know this because The Last Gentleman is the latest > novel I read. Having said that, I note that I am a new > (three or four days) member of this list. > I was sternly admonished by the anonymous listmaster to > introduce myself to the list. > > I'm afraid there is not much: I'm in the professional > publishing business in New York, I live in Brooklyn with > a wife and a couple of children, I'm an ordinary > middle-aged (well, if I'm going to live to 108, I'm > exactly at middle age), middle class, fairly conservative > Catholic whose Latin skills are somewhat above the > average of the general population and whose mechanical > skills are considerably below that of the general > population. > > I came to WP through a co-worker who told me at a job > interview that Walker Percy was her favorite author and > The Moviegoer was her favorite novel; she was a fairly > recent college graduate, an English major, and I could > think of nothing else to ask. My curiosity was piqued > and I read The Moviegoer, and then The Second Coming. I > was hooked and read through them all, except Lancelot, > which I picked up today. Fortunately, the Jets and Giants > are so frightful that they will offer no plausible > distraction for tomorrow's reading. > > Chuck Lowry > Brooklyn, New York > chaslow53 at aol.com > > -- > > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: