From juliorivas at gmail.com Sun Dec 19 08:06:31 2004 From: juliorivas at gmail.com (J Rivas-Pita) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:06:31 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Percy, Peirce, Buber, Lacan, Wittgenstein: Common Thread? Message-ID: Dear friends, I'm becoming more and more interested in Percy day by day. And also in Peirce's theory of language, although it's still rather obscure to me. In a way, it reminds me of Buber's inter-subjectivity as formulated in "I and Thou" (the triadic formula), but then I haven't had a chance to read much of Peirce and I may have got it wrong. I'm enjoying these days the company of Wittgenstein ("The Blue and Brown Books" and the great "Wittgenstein for Beginners" by John Heaton and Judy Groves), and also reflecting again on that genius/madman Lacan and his own approach to language in the psychoanalytical setting. Do you see a common thread in them? I have an intuitive feeling that there is one, but so far haven't been able to formulate it in clear words. All best wishes, Julio (Caracas) -- Be Happy! (Fr. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) S? feliz! (P. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) From juliorivas at gmail.com Sun Dec 19 15:08:09 2004 From: juliorivas at gmail.com (J Rivas-Pita) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:08:09 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self Message-ID: Dear friends, As some of you already know, I live in Venezuela, where a strict exchange control with lots of red-tape has made my credit card invalid abroad, so I can't any longer order books from Amazon.com as I used to in the past. I was wondering if any of you with some spare time (yes, I know that commodity is scarcer by the day) could perhaps do me a favor scanning "A Semiotic Primer of the Self" (from "Lost in the Cosmos") and e-mailing it to me. Or, if that is not feasible, if someone in the list could e-mail me a summary of it. I'm especially interested in Percy's views on language and psychotherapy -having some experience as a patient and also as the author of a little book in Spanish, "Di?logo y Psicoterapia" (San Pablo Ediciones, Caracas, 1995) where I explored the connection between the philosophies of Buber, Marcel and Heidegger and the realm of the cure of souls. I'm no expert on Percy and much less on Peirce, so I'd love to know whether in their approach to language they considered not only what is said but also where it comes from -namely, from what depth of being, so to say, something is said, and with what quality of presence (in the meaning of being fully there for the Other, fully present in what Buber termed an "I-Thou" relationship. Also, whether they ever considered that much of what we say cannot be properly understood if we remain at the surface of the spoken word and oblivious to the fact that most of the time we are unaware of being influenced to an enormous degree by what psychoanalysts call "the Unconscious". Thanks a lot for your help! And my very best wishes for a Happy Christmas, to all of you. Julio Rivas Pita -- Be Happy! (Fr. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) S? feliz! (P. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) From armstron at ohiou.edu Mon Dec 20 09:54:28 2004 From: armstron at ohiou.edu (Ken Armstrong) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:54:28 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C318CE438ACA165E3C50C18@athens-dialup-170-36.ispnetbilling.com> Dear Julio, If you do not get it soon, this is something I might be able to accomplish following the visit of St. Nick, reputed to be bringing a scanner to my daughter on the 25th. I'm all thumbs when it comes to technology, so it might take a little while, also entailing unearthing my copy of the book. In the meantime, blessings of the holiday to all the members of this quiet list! Pax, Ken Armstrong --On Sunday, December 19, 2004 4:08 PM -0400 J Rivas-Pita wrote: > could perhaps do me a favor scanning > "A Semiotic Primer of the Self" (from "Lost in the Cosmos") and > e-mailing it to me. From Nikkibar at aol.com Wed Dec 22 19:57:06 2004 From: Nikkibar at aol.com (Nikkibar at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:57:06 EST Subject: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self Message-ID: <92.1ca6d20c.2efb71e2@aol.com> Dear List, In honor of the memory of Walker Percy, The St. Tammany Parish Art Association is sponsoring a competition in the writing of one act plays, the winners to be getting a reading production at the Covington Center on Jan 14 and 15. They are short by about a thousand dollars in covering their expenses for putting up the writers in the various hostelieries about the town and if anyone on the list feels inclined to support the cause you may send a check made out to The St. Tammany Parish Art Association One act Play Contest and send it to me G.K. Barranger at 200 North Columbia St. Covington, La. 70433 and I will see to it that it gets to the right place. It's tax deductable as a gift to a 501 c 3 charity. Merry Christmas to all. Nikki Barranger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juliorivas at gmail.com Wed Dec 22 21:37:55 2004 From: juliorivas at gmail.com (J Rivas-Pita) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:37:55 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self In-Reply-To: <92.1ca6d20c.2efb71e2@aol.com> References: <92.1ca6d20c.2efb71e2@aol.com> Message-ID: Dear unknown List-companions, First of all, let me wish everyone of you a most Happy Christmas. May your deepest hearts' desires be fulfilled, especially those of love, peace and goodwill. (No objection to a new car though if the one you have now is in really bad shape, or things like that :) And like Nikki in the previous post, let me also invoke the memory of old WP to ask each and everyone of you a contribution -modest as it may be, or big as you can afford- in the form of any scanned, stored, hard-disk kept or in any other form extant material from "Lost in the Cosmos" or "Message in a Bottle" that you may perchance have handy and would be willing to share with me via this wondrous invention -namely, e-mail. The aforementioned materials will be put to good use by yours truly and you will probably -this I can?t guarantee though- be blessed by your contribution to spread the work of WP. I will personally bless any contributor for her/his kindness and light a candle for that person's good deed, as WP would have wished me to do. For those who don't know me, no, I can't get those materials in my country's public libraries or bookshops. But if you e-mail them to me, I might be able to enrich those libraries with copies, if the bureaucracy permits. If not, I will make sure that at least some people get copies. So, as you will see, your effort won't have been wasted. And you will have one more good action to your name in The Book this Christmas :) Have a Merry, Merry Christmas each and everyone of you! With all best wishes, Julio Rivas-Pita Caracas, Venezuela On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:57:06 EST, Nikkibar at aol.com wrote: > Dear List, > > In honor of the memory of Walker Percy, The St. Tammany Parish Art > Association is sponsoring a competition in the writing of one act plays, the > winners to be getting a reading production at the Covington Center on Jan 14 > and 15. They are short by about a thousand dollars in covering their > expenses for putting up the writers in the various hostelieries about the > town and if anyone on the list feels inclined to support the cause you may > send a check made out to The St. Tammany Parish Art Association One act Play > Contest and send it to me G.K. Barranger at 200 North Columbia St. > Covington, La. 70433 and I will see to it that it gets to the right place. > It's tax deductable as a gift to a 501 c 3 charity. > > Merry Christmas to all. > > Nikki Barranger > -- > > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > -- Be Happy! (Fr. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) S? feliz! (P. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) From juliorivas at gmail.com Wed Dec 22 22:10:47 2004 From: juliorivas at gmail.com (J Rivas-Pita) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:10:47 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] A Failed Message... In-Reply-To: <9016024956321565067@unknownmsgid> References: <9016024956321565067@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: MAILER-DAEMON at mail.utexas.edu Date: 23 Dec 2004 03:04:25 -0000 Subject: failure notice To: juliorivas at gmail.com Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.utexas.edu. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Enclosed is a copy of the message. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J Rivas-Pita To: henm at mail.utexas.edu Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:04:24 -0400 Subject: Walker Percy's Philosophy of Language Dear Henry, I'm a newcomer to the Percy-List, and have several times tried to read your Introductory Essay on WP?s philosophy of language but unfortunately the link no longer works, for some reason. I was wondering whether you?d be able to e-mail it to me, if you have it stored in your computer. I'd love to read it, since that facet of Percy is the one most appealing to me (I've published in Spanish a small book, "Di?logo y Psicoterapia", which deals mainly with the influence of Buber, Marcel, Heidegger and Binswanger on psychotherapy, "the talking cure"). Since then, I've also become quite interested in Wittgenstein's ideas on language and, more recently, on Percy?s and Peirce's. If you happen to have any other materials on Percy and language/or psychotherapy, I'd be quite obliged to you if you could e-mail them to me. I know both sujects are dealt with in "Lost in the Cosmos" and "Message in a Bottle", but so far haven't been able to get them, since I live in Caracas, Venezuela, and for the last couple of years -due to the exchange controls- my credit card is no longer valid abroad, so I can?t order from Amazon as I used to :( With many, many thanks, and all my best wishes for a very Happy Christmas, Julio -- Be Happy! (Fr. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) S? feliz! (P. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) -- Be Happy! (Fr. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) S? feliz! (P. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) From juliorivas at gmail.com Fri Dec 24 05:48:38 2004 From: juliorivas at gmail.com (J Rivas-Pita) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:38 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Christmas Present Message-ID: And Jacob lived... (Genesis 47:28) * * * Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi wished to bless Rabbi Yekutiel Lefler with riches, but the chassid declined, explaining that the preoccupations of wealth would infringe upon his study of Torah and his service of the Almighty. So the Rebbe offered to bless him with long life. Said the Rabbi Yekutiel: "But not with a peasant's years, not with the years of those 'who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear'; not with a life in which one sees not G-dliness and one hears not G-dliness." Asks the Lubavitcher Rebbe: is it not presumptuous for one who is offered a gift to say: "Okay, I accept, but only on the condition that you throw a few extras"? But to Rabbi Yekutiel, 'to see G-dliness and hear G-dliness' is not a matter of raised consciousness or an enhancement of the 'spiritual' quality of his life, but the very definition of life itself. -- Be Happy! (Fr. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) S? feliz! (P. Benito Ballesteros, OSB, 1924-1996) From sldye at bluegrass.org Mon Dec 27 13:15:15 2004 From: sldye at bluegrass.org (Steve L. Dye) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:15:15 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self In-Reply-To: <92.1ca6d20c.2efb71e2@aol.com> Message-ID: <5C70CAA729D41844A2B73C99847FDEB6088688@batman.Bluegrass.Board> Thank you for this information - I assume, though, the deadline for submissions is past? -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:57 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self Dear List, In honor of the memory of Walker Percy, The St. Tammany Parish Art Association is sponsoring a competition in the writing of one act plays, the winners to be getting a reading production at the Covington Center on Jan 14 and 15. They are short by about a thousand dollars in covering their expenses for putting up the writers in the various hostelieries about the town and if anyone on the list feels inclined to support the cause you may send a check made out to The St. Tammany Parish Art Association One act Play Contest and send it to me G.K. Barranger at 200 North Columbia St. Covington, La. 70433 and I will see to it that it gets to the right place. It's tax deductable as a gift to a 501 c 3 charity. Merry Christmas to all. Nikki Barranger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nikkibar at aol.com Mon Dec 27 15:15:08 2004 From: Nikkibar at aol.com (Nikkibar at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:15:08 EST Subject: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self Message-ID: <20.3b0f279d.2f01c74c@aol.com> Yes, but they may do it again next year. If you want to subimt, let me know and I'll try to see that Peggy Aultman has you on the notice list. N. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sldye at bluegrass.org Tue Dec 28 09:10:04 2004 From: sldye at bluegrass.org (Steve L. Dye) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:10:04 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self In-Reply-To: <20.3b0f279d.2f01c74c@aol.com> Message-ID: <5C70CAA729D41844A2B73C99847FDEB608868A@batman.Bluegrass.Board> Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 3:15 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] A Semiotic Primer of the Self Yes, but they may do it again next year. If you want to subimt, let me know and I'll try to see that Peggy Aultman has you on the notice list. N. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: