From Nikkibar at aol.com Fri Jan 2 16:43:37 2004 From: Nikkibar at aol.com (Nikkibar at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 16:43:37 EST Subject: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Message-ID: <83.2743247.2d274009@aol.com> Dear Rhonda, I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named Lonergan in the book meetings. He would from time to time drop a word ot two about other reading he was up to if he found it interesting, but this sparks no blip of recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith might perhaps be a better informant? Nikki -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Robert_Pauley at oxy.com Fri Jan 2 18:18:13 2004 From: Robert_Pauley at oxy.com (Robert_Pauley at oxy.com) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:18:13 -0800 Subject: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Message-ID: <1E4B441CB5CF9D408D318BC697F086F5014B035D@olawexc7.naoxy.com> I'm curious if anyone has comment on recent flap regarding Bob Coles quoting (misquoting?) Percy on Bruce Springsteen. Coles claims Percy was a gushing fan of Springsteen's, as Coles is, and his quotes are taken from memory. So he can't back them up. But quotes are being challenged by New Republic magazine and by Percy's nephew, who says they don't sound a thing like Walker. I agree. Quotes sound phony. -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:44 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Dear Rhonda, I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named Lonergan in the book meetings. He would from time to time drop a word ot two about other reading he was up to if he found it interesting, but this sparks no blip of recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith might perhaps be a better informant? Nikki -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daveduty at austin.rr.com Fri Jan 2 18:26:37 2004 From: daveduty at austin.rr.com (Dave Duty) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 17:26:37 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? In-Reply-To: <1E4B441CB5CF9D408D318BC697F086F5014B035D@olawexc7.naoxy.com> References: <1E4B441CB5CF9D408D318BC697F086F5014B035D@olawexc7.naoxy.com> Message-ID: <3FF5FE2D.2000404@austin.rr.com> Any source of what Coles actually said? Historically Dr. Coles is the most honorable of thinkers/writers I know alive today. Most of us are aware of the unanswered letter Dr. Percy sent to the Boss. And that the nephew interviwed the Boss in depth about WP. I know for a fact that I personally mentioned my affection for Bruce to WP -- and he said he had heard of him via his grandson(s). In the same conversation I said that I thought Sting MIGHT have read and appreciated WP's work - this was a pure surmise on my part and have not since read or heard anything from Sting to this effect. WP also said he had heard of Sting from the same source but was not sure if he had ever heard him -- at least that he was aware of. For what it is worth. Robert_Pauley at oxy.com wrote: > I'm curious if anyone has comment on recent flap regarding Bob Coles > quoting (misquoting?) Percy on Bruce Springsteen. Coles claims Percy > was a gushing fan of Springsteen's, as Coles is, and his quotes are > taken from memory. So he can't back them up. But quotes are being > challenged by New Republic magazine and by Percy's nephew, who says > they don't sound a thing like Walker. I agree. Quotes sound phony. > > -----Original Message----- > From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:44 PM > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? > > Dear Rhonda, > > I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named Lonergan in > the book meetings. He would from time to time drop a word ot two > about other reading he was up to if he found it interesting, but > this sparks no blip of recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith > might perhaps be a better informant? > > Nikki > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- > >An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > >Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Robert_Pauley at oxy.com Fri Jan 2 18:43:47 2004 From: Robert_Pauley at oxy.com (Robert_Pauley at oxy.com) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:43:47 -0800 Subject: [percy-l] RE: Percy and Coles Message-ID: <1E4B441CB5CF9D408D318BC697F086F5014B035E@olawexc7.naoxy.com> >From Slate online: David Hajdu's Dec. 15 New Republic cover story on the "inauthenticity of Bruce Springsteen " homes in on the inauthenticity of Robert Coles, the author of a recent book on the New Jersey bard. Hajdu insinuates that the book's testimonials-from "the prototypical sort of everyday people that one does not meet every day"-are too good to be true, and that Coles may have fabricated quotes from avowed Springsteen fan Walker Percy. From New Republic: >From article: Many of the people Coles quotes in this book--and in his other books, come to think of it--talk in folksy bromides that gain veracity when imagined in the voice of Jimmy Stewart. Personally, I have never met anyone who thinks or speaks this way. Similarly, Percy, as Coles quotes him, goes on at startling length about the Boss. It is well known that Percy once wrote a letter to Springsteen. The novelist's nephew Will Percy had shown his uncle an article noting Springsteen's Catholicism in America, the Jesuit weekly, and the elder Percy sent Springsteen a note expressing his admiration and inquiring about Bruce's "spiritual journey." (Springsteen did not attend to the letter until Percy had died, but then wrote to his widow.) Coles gives us pages of commentary related to Springsteen and his milieu from Percy, among them: "This guy is his own boss--he's earned the title [the Boss] every inch of the way: he sings of us while singing to us, and what you hear (the one you're hearing) is a plain, ordinary guy soaring way above himself and everyone around him through his voice, and through the songs he's written.... It sure would be great if some of us, who talk to ourselves, hearing a singer talking to himself, then to us, with his own words that he uses to make music--if some of us heard each other doing our talking with our talking buddy, I call him." Therein is the ("great") idea for Bruce Springsteen's America. The fact that William Carlos Williams and Walker Percy had such extensive conversations with Robert Coles on the subjects of the New Jersey pop singers Frank Sinatra and Bruce Springsteen, and that those discussions yielded insights so parallel and neatly suited to Coles's own take on Springsteen is incredible--utterly incredible. I was not there to overhear them, of course, and it is impossible to check with Williams and Percy, or with the late Erikson and Shawn, whom Coles's other deceased sources quotes in his book's opening sections. But I did ask Will Percy about the comments on Springsteen that Coles attributes to his uncle, and he called them "outrageous." Walker Percy "definitely didn't talk like that," according to his nephew. It seems pertinent to note that Coles and Springsteen are friends, and that the Boss did "the Doc" (his nickname for Coles) a sizable favor early this year, although Coles mentions neither fact in his book. In February, Springsteen gave a solo concert in Somerville, Massachusetts to benefit DoubleTake magazine, which Coles founded and ran. ("It is completely accurate to say that Bruce Springsteen saved this magazine," the publisher, Hugo Barreca, announced prematurely; the journal subsequently suspended publication). -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dave Duty Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 3:27 PM To: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Any source of what Coles actually said? Historically Dr. Coles is the most honorable of thinkers/writers I know alive today. Most of us are aware of the unanswered letter Dr. Percy sent to the Boss. And that the nephew interviwed the Boss in depth about WP. I know for a fact that I personally mentioned my affection for Bruce to WP -- and he said he had heard of him via his grandson(s). In the same conversation I said that I thought Sting MIGHT have read and appreciated WP's work - this was a pure surmise on my part and have not since read or heard anything from Sting to this effect. WP also said he had heard of Sting from the same source but was not sure if he had ever heard him -- at least that he was aware of. For what it is worth. Robert_Pauley at oxy.com wrote: I'm curious if anyone has comment on recent flap regarding Bob Coles quoting (misquoting?) Percy on Bruce Springsteen. Coles claims Percy was a gushing fan of Springsteen's, as Coles is, and his quotes are taken from memory. So he can't back them up. But quotes are being challenged by New Republic magazine and by Percy's nephew, who says they don't sound a thing like Walker. I agree. Quotes sound phony. -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:44 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Dear Rhonda, I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named Lonergan in the book meetings. He would from time to time drop a word ot two about other reading he was up to if he found it interesting, but this sparks no blip of recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith might perhaps be a better informant? Nikki _____ -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcus at loyno.edu Fri Jan 2 19:31:13 2004 From: marcus at loyno.edu (marcus at loyno.edu) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 00:31:13 GMT Subject: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Message-ID: <3ff60d51.111.1b2028.4472@loyno.edu> I've dipped into Lonergan--and heard lots of talk about him from colleagues at Loyola (some of them Jesuit)--but do not recall WP ever discussing him or mentioning him. Marcus Smith ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: To: Subject: RE: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:18:13 -0800 > > > > I'm curious if anyone has comment on recent flap regarding > Bob Coles quoting (misquoting?) Percy on Bruce > Springsteen. Coles claims Percy was a gushing fan of > Springsteen's, as Coles is, and his quotes are taken from > memory. So he can't back them up. But quotes are being > challenged by New Republic magazine and by Percy's nephew, > who says they don't sound a thing like Walker. I agree. > Quotes sound phony. > > -----Original Message----- > From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of > Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:44 PM > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? > > > > Dear Rhonda, > > I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named > Lonergan in the book meetings. He would from time to time > drop a word ot two about other reading he was up to if he > found it interesting, but this sparks no blip of > recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith might perhaps be a > better informant? > > Nikki > > > > -- > > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > From chaslow53 at aol.com Fri Jan 2 22:39:51 2004 From: chaslow53 at aol.com (chaslow53 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:39:51 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] RE: Percy and Coles Message-ID: <5CDA95AB.0C6B38F0.02E7F73D@aol.com> Although I'm unable to contribute much to this list's high scholarly tone, here is a note about Coles/Percy/Springsteen from an unexpected source. Besides an affection for corn whiskey, I have only one other appreciable vice, which manifests itself in my making an occasional wager on the races. Around Thanksgiving I was at the local office of the Off Track Betting in my Brooklyn neighborhood, and I was discussing literature (really!) with a betting clerk with whom I had become friendly over the years. He asked me about my favorite novelists, and as soon as I mentioned Walker Percy, he said two things: (1) that The Moviegoer was one of his favorite novels, and (2) that WP was a big Bruce Springsteen fan. He then told me the entire story of the Springsteen interview, the journal and the benefit concert! As Mark Twain may or may not have said, Interesting if true and interesting anyway. Since we are all concerned, in varying ways, with the WP legacy, I thought you might be amused to hear of the legacy's penetration even into a world more often concerned with furlongs and equipment changes, early speed and photo finishes! Chuck Lowry Brooklyn, New York From marcus at loyno.edu Sun Jan 4 20:25:54 2004 From: marcus at loyno.edu (marcus at loyno.edu) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 01:25:54 GMT Subject: [PMX:###] Re: [percy-l] RE: Percy and Coles Message-ID: <3ff8bd22.1a0.d2094.28885@loyno.edu> Dear Chuck, Glad to hear your story. I don't think Percy chased the ponies, but I do. I don't know how I would begin to handle an OTB teller who could talk Percy. Welcome to the group. Hope to hear from you again.\ Marcus Smith ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: chaslow53 at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org ("Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Disc ussion") Subject: [PMX:###] Re: [percy-l] RE: Percy and Coles Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:39:51 -0500 > > > > -- > > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > From mfrentz_2 at comcast.net Mon Jan 5 10:15:36 2004 From: mfrentz_2 at comcast.net (Mike Frentz) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:15:36 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? In-Reply-To: <3ff60d51.111.1b2028.4472@loyno.edu> References: <3ff60d51.111.1b2028.4472@loyno.edu> Message-ID: <03C7EAEB-3F92-11D8-BFC5-000A9593AB24@comcast.net> Rhonda, Nikki, Marcus, Thanks for your replies. There doesn't seem to be a connection from what I've been able to track either (though, I'd bet WP would have been fascinated with him). I actually just stumbled across Lonergan myself and it's not like Percy had a populated Internet to graze on.. :-) Best, Mike On Jan 2, 2004, at 7:31 PM, marcus at loyno.edu wrote: > I've dipped into Lonergan--and heard lots of talk about him > from colleagues at Loyola (some of them Jesuit)--but do not > recall WP ever discussing him or mentioning him. > > Marcus Smith > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > From: > To: > Subject: RE: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:18:13 -0800 >> >> >> >> I'm curious if anyone has comment on recent flap regarding >> Bob Coles quoting (misquoting?) Percy on Bruce >> Springsteen. Coles claims Percy was a gushing fan of >> Springsteen's, as Coles is, and his quotes are taken from >> memory. So he can't back them up. But quotes are being >> challenged by New Republic magazine and by Percy's nephew, >> who says they don't sound a thing like Walker. I agree. >> Quotes sound phony. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org >> [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of >> Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:44 PM >> To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org >> Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? >> >> >> >> Dear Rhonda, >> >> I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named >> Lonergan in the book meetings. He would from time to time >> drop a word ot two about other reading he was up to if he >> found it interesting, but this sparks no blip of >> recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith might perhaps be a >> better informant? >> >> Nikki >> >> >> >> -- >> >> An archive of all list discussion is available at >> http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail >> >> Visit the Walker Percy Project at >> http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >> > -- > > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > From sldye at bluegrass.org Mon Jan 5 11:27:06 2004 From: sldye at bluegrass.org (Steve Dye) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:27:06 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? References: <1E4B441CB5CF9D408D318BC697F086F5014B035D@olawexc7.naoxy.com> <3FF5FE2D.2000404@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <006b01c3d3a8$c3242c00$e512a8c0@bluegrass.board> When I first heard of the "Boss" connection (and in this group) I was pretty bemused by it. But I don't know about others, but it doesn't have a whole lot of interest for me beyond that. In thinking about it, though, music (and particularly rock music) plays almost no role in Percy's novels. I remember him alluding to jazz (Dixieland) several times but to the best of my knowledge, rock and roll is not present in any of the novels - which strikes me as kind of interesting in the sense that i think of Percy as such a "modern" writer in most ways. Just a thought... I can't imagine that he would have given the Boss or any other "pop" musician much more than a fleeting thought...the novel that comes to mind that might have utilized rock music would have been "Love in the Ruins".... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Duty To: Percy-L at happyhouse.metalab.unc.edu:Literary and Philosophical Discussion Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Any source of what Coles actually said? Historically Dr. Coles is the most honorable of thinkers/writers I know alive today. Most of us are aware of the unanswered letter Dr. Percy sent to the Boss. And that the nephew interviwed the Boss in depth about WP. I know for a fact that I personally mentioned my affection for Bruce to WP -- and he said he had heard of him via his grandson(s). In the same conversation I said that I thought Sting MIGHT have read and appreciated WP's work - this was a pure surmise on my part and have not since read or heard anything from Sting to this effect. WP also said he had heard of Sting from the same source but was not sure if he had ever heard him -- at least that he was aware of. For what it is worth. Robert_Pauley at oxy.com wrote: I'm curious if anyone has comment on recent flap regarding Bob Coles quoting (misquoting?) Percy on Bruce Springsteen. Coles claims Percy was a gushing fan of Springsteen's, as Coles is, and his quotes are taken from memory. So he can't back them up. But quotes are being challenged by New Republic magazine and by Percy's nephew, who says they don't sound a thing like Walker. I agree. Quotes sound phony. -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:44 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Dear Rhonda, I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named Lonergan in the book meetings. He would from time to time drop a word ot two about other reading he was up to if he found it interesting, but this sparks no blip of recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith might perhaps be a better informant? Nikki ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From RWarren at boultcummings.com Mon Jan 5 11:27:54 2004 From: RWarren at boultcummings.com (Richard Warren) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 10:27:54 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] RE: Percy and Coles Message-ID: This exchange reminds me of a comment from Percy biographer Patrick Samway, who did a very throrough job of gathering original sources by and about Percy. He says that he contacted Coles who had done extensive interviews with WP for a long profile that he subsquently turned into one of the early full length books on Walker's writings. When Fr. Samway asked Coles if he could see the notes of his interviews, Coles told him that he had not taken any notes. This was obviously shocking to a biographer as source-conscious as Samway, and when he pressed Coles further as to why he had not taken notes he reportedly replied, "I am a psychologist." Richard Warren Nashville, TN >>> Robert_Pauley at oxy.com 01/02/04 05:43PM >>> >From Slate online: David Hajdu's Dec. 15 New Republic cover story on the "inauthenticity of Bruce Springsteen " homes in on the inauthenticity of Robert Coles, the author of a recent book on the New Jersey bard. Hajdu insinuates that the book's testimonials-from "the prototypical sort of everyday people that one does not meet every day"-are too good to be true, and that Coles may have fabricated quotes from avowed Springsteen fan Walker Percy. From New Republic: >From article: Many of the people Coles quotes in this book--and in his other books, come to think of it--talk in folksy bromides that gain veracity when imagined in the voice of Jimmy Stewart. Personally, I have never met anyone who thinks or speaks this way. Similarly, Percy, as Coles quotes him, goes on at startling length about the Boss. It is well known that Percy once wrote a letter to Springsteen. The novelist's nephew Will Percy had shown his uncle an article noting Springsteen's Catholicism in America, the Jesuit weekly, and the elder Percy sent Springsteen a note expressing his admiration and inquiring about Bruce's "spiritual journey." (Springsteen did not attend to the letter until Percy had died, but then wrote to his widow.) Coles gives us pages of commentary related to Springsteen and his milieu from Percy, among them: "This guy is his own boss--he's earned the title [the Boss] every inch of the way: he sings of us while singing to us, and what you hear (the one you're hearing) is a plain, ordinary guy soaring way above himself and everyone around him through his voice, and through the songs he's written.... It sure would be great if some of us, who talk to ourselves, hearing a singer talking to himself, then to us, with his own words that he uses to make music--if some of us heard each other doing our talking with our talking buddy, I call him." Therein is the ("great") idea for Bruce Springsteen's America. The fact that William Carlos Williams and Walker Percy had such extensive conversations with Robert Coles on the subjects of the New Jersey pop singers Frank Sinatra and Bruce Springsteen, and that those discussions yielded insights so parallel and neatly suited to Coles's own take on Springsteen is incredible--utterly incredible. I was not there to overhear them, of course, and it is impossible to check with Williams and Percy, or with the late Erikson and Shawn, whom Coles's other deceased sources quotes in his book's opening sections. But I did ask Will Percy about the comments on Springsteen that Coles attributes to his uncle, and he called them "outrageous." Walker Percy "definitely didn't talk like that," according to his nephew. It seems pertinent to note that Coles and Springsteen are friends, and that the Boss did "the Doc" (his nickname for Coles) a sizable favor early this year, although Coles mentions neither fact in his book. In February, Springsteen gave a solo concert in Somerville, Massachusetts to benefit DoubleTake magazine, which Coles founded and ran. ("It is completely accurate to say that Bruce Springsteen saved this magazine," the publisher, Hugo Barreca, announced prematurely; the journal subsequently suspended publication). -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dave Duty Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 3:27 PM To: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Any source of what Coles actually said? Historically Dr. Coles is the most honorable of thinkers/writers I know alive today. Most of us are aware of the unanswered letter Dr. Percy sent to the Boss. And that the nephew interviwed the Boss in depth about WP. I know for a fact that I personally mentioned my affection for Bruce to WP -- and he said he had heard of him via his grandson(s). In the same conversation I said that I thought Sting MIGHT have read and appreciated WP's work - this was a pure surmise on my part and have not since read or heard anything from Sting to this effect. WP also said he had heard of Sting from the same source but was not sure if he had ever heard him -- at least that he was aware of. For what it is worth. Robert_Pauley at oxy.com wrote: I'm curious if anyone has comment on recent flap regarding Bob Coles quoting (misquoting?) Percy on Bruce Springsteen. Coles claims Percy was a gushing fan of Springsteen's, as Coles is, and his quotes are taken from memory. So he can't back them up. But quotes are being challenged by New Republic magazine and by Percy's nephew, who says they don't sound a thing like Walker. I agree. Quotes sound phony. -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:44 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lonergan and Percy? Dear Rhonda, I don't ever recall Walker mentioning someone named Lonergan in the book meetings. He would from time to time drop a word ot two about other reading he was up to if he found it interesting, but this sparks no blip of recognition on my screen. Marcus Smith might perhaps be a better informant? Nikki _____ -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Thu Jan 22 00:18:20 2004 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:18:20 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] (no subject) Message-ID: Does anyone know how well versed Dr. Percy was in regard to Lancelot Andrewes? Clearly, he's making the historical reference unmistakable in his explanation of Lance Lamar's name, but is Andrewes theology being invoked, or is Andrewes representative of Anglican/Episcopalian theology in general? Rhonda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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