From Nikkibar at aol.com Sat Apr 5 19:33:41 2008 From: Nikkibar at aol.com (Nikkibar at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:33:41 EDT Subject: [percy-l] Agenda for April 5 Meeting Message-ID: Dear Marsha, A successful day I thought. Please confirm for me the final dates of the remaining long range planning sessions. Thanks I think it's time for another current roster of Board, Council and PPsenate names and addresses. It would help our Christmas card lists to have the names as well of wives, husbands, companions and the like and including as well the necessary info on key staff for Foundation as well as Jazz School and WWOZ. Thanks a bunch for all of this. Nikki **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jhforest at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 13:29:17 2008 From: jhforest at gmail.com (Jim Forest) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:29:17 +0200 Subject: [percy-l] =?windows-1252?q?Walker_Percy_quoted_in_today=27s_NY_Ti?= =?windows-1252?q?mes=3A_Gauging_a_Collider=92s_Odds_of_Creating_a_?= =?windows-1252?q?Black_Hole?= Message-ID: <53c59b0c0804151029l2e60c80dme53ea71c5ca1906a@mail.gmail.com> New York Times / www.nytimes.com / April 15, 2008 Essay *Gauging a Collider's Odds of Creating a Black Hole* By Dennis Overbye In Walker Percy's "Love in the Ruins," the protagonist, a doctor and an inventor, recites what he calls the scientist's prayer. It goes like this: *"Lord, grant that my work increase knowledge and help other men. "Failing that, Lord, grant that it will not lead to man's destruction. "Failing that, Lord, grant that my article in Brain be published before the destruction takes place."* Today we require more than prayers that a scientific experiment will not lead to the end of the world. We demand hard-headed calculations. But whom can we trust to do them? That question has been raised by the impending startup of the Large Hadron Collider. It starts smashing protons together this summer at the European Center for Nuclear Research, or Cern, outside Geneva, in hopes of grabbing a piece of the primordial fire, forces and particles that may have existed a trillionth of a second after the Big Bang. Critics have contended that the machine could produce a black hole that could eat the Earth or something equally catastrophic. To most physicists, this fear is more science fiction than science fact. At a recent open house weekend, 73,000 visitors, without pitchforks or torches, toured the collider without incident. Nevertheless, some experts say too much hype and not enough candor on the part of scientists about the promises and perils of what they do could boomerang into a public relations disaster for science, opening the door for charlatans and demagogues. In a paper published in 2000 with the title "Might a Laboratory Experiment Destroy Planet Earth?" Francesco Calogero, a nuclear physicist at the University of Rome and co-winner of the 1995 Nobel Peace Prize for his work with the Pugwash conferences on arms control, deplored a tendency among his colleagues to promulgate a "leave it to the experts" attitude. "Many, indeed most, of them," he wrote, "seem to me to be more concerned with the public relations impact of what they, or others, say and write, than in making sure that the facts are presented with complete scientific objectivity." One problem is that society has never agreed on a standard of what is safe in these surreal realms when the odds of disaster might be tiny but the stakes are cosmically high. In such situations, probability estimates are often no more than "informed betting odds," said Martin Rees, a Cambridge University cosmologist, the astronomer royal and the author of "Our Final Hour." Adrian Kent, also of Cambridge, said in a paper in 2003 reviewing scientists' failure to calculate adequately and characterize accurately risks to the public, that even the most basic question, " 'How improbable does a catastrophe have to be to justify proceeding with an experiment?' seems never to have been seriously examined." Dr. Calogero commented, as did Dr. Kent, in 2000 after a very public battle on the safety of another accelerator, the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider, or Rhic, at the Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island. Dr. Calogero said he hoped to apply a gentle pressure on Cern to treat these issues with seriousness. "A crusade against it is a danger," he said of the new collider. "It would not be based on rational argument." Fears about the Brookhaven collider first centered on black holes but soon shifted to the danger posed by weird hypothetical particles, strangelets, that critics said could transform the Earth almost instantly into a dead, dense lump. Ultimately, independent studies by two groups of physicists calculated that the chances of this catastrophe were negligible, based on astronomical evidence and assumptions about the physics of the strangelets. One report put the odds of a strangelet disaster at less than one in 50 million, less than a chance of winning some lottery jackpots. Dr. Kent, in a 2003 paper, used the standard insurance company method to calculate expected losses to explore how stringent this bound on danger was. He multiplied the disaster probability times the cost, in this case the loss of the global population, six billion. A result was that, in actuarial terms, the Rhic collider could kill up to 120 people in a decade of operation. "Put this way, the bound seems far from adequately reassuring," Dr. Kent wrote. Alvaro de Rujula of Cern, who was involved in writing a safety report, said extending the insurance formula that way violated common sense. "Applied to all imaginable catastrophes, it would result in World Paralysis," he wrote. Besides, the random nature of quantum physics means that there is always a minuscule, but nonzero, chance of anything occurring, including that the new collider could spit out man-eating dragons. Doomsday from particle physics is part of the culture. Next year will see the release of the film version of "Angels and Demons," the prequel to Dan Brown's "DaVinci Code," in which the bad guys use a Cern accelerator to gather antimatter for a bomb to blow up the Vatican, and it includes scenes at Cern. In Douglas Preston's "Blasphemy," a best seller last winter, the operators of a giant particle collider in New Mexico find themselves talking to an entity that sounds like God before religious fanatics descend on the lab and destroy it. Some physicists, who have been waiting 14 years for the new collider, have proclaimed in papers and press releases increasingly ambitious and unlikely hopes, including proving a long-shot version of string theory by producing microscopic black holes. Inevitably, these black holes have taken center stage in the latest round of doomsday alarms. Most theorists will say the version of their theory that predicts black holes is extremely unlikely ? though not impossible. But the chance that such a black hole would not instantly evaporate according to a theory famously propounded by Stephen Hawking in 1974 is even more weirdly unlikely, the theorists say. Cern's most recent safety report, in 2003, focused mostly on refuting the strangelet threat in the hadron collider and devoted just three pages to black holes, saying they "do not present a conceivable risk." It gave no odds. An anonymous Cern committee is working on a final, more comprehensive report. Neither Dr. Calogero nor Dr. Rees say they are losing sleep over the collider. Some risk is acceptable, even inevitable, in the pursuit of knowledge, they say, and they trust the physicists who have built it. But it would be more reassuring in the long run, as Dr. Kent noted, if everybody agreed beforehand how much risk is acceptable, before spending billions of dollars and major political capital. One popular option to determine acceptable risk is to demand that the chance of a man-made disaster be kept below the chance of a natural disaster like being obliterated by an asteroid. Astronomers estimate that chance as one in 50 million in any given year. Of course, thanks to those pesky quantum laws, disaster could come anytime. Or not. It could happen that the scientist's prayer will be answered and your discovery will indeed lead to knowledge, human happiness and a new killer ap for iPhones. "As in all explorations of uncharted domains, there may be a risk," Dr. Rees wrote, "but there is a hidden cost of saying no." * * * Jim & Nancy Forest Kanisstraat 5 1811 GJ Alkmaar The Netherlands Forest-Flier web site: www.incommunion.org/forest-flier/ Orthodox Peace Fellowship web site: www.incommunion.org photos: www.flickr.com/photos/jimforest/sets/ *recently published: "Silent as a Stone," a children's book about a community of rescuers in Nazi-occupied Paris:* http://incommunion.org/forest-flier/books/silent-as-a-stone-mother-maria-of-paris-and-the-trash-can-rescue/ *another new book: "The Road to Emmaus: Pilgrimage as a Way of Life":* http://incommunion.org/forest-flier/books/the-road-to-emmaus-pilgrimage-as-a-way-of-life/ * * * * Nancy and I have been keeping a journal that follows our recent kidney transplant. A blog has been set up for this purpose -- A Tale of Two Kidneys. See: http://ataleof2kidneys.blogspot.com/ * * ** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wriddick at usa.net Tue Apr 15 21:29:49 2008 From: wriddick at usa.net (Wade Riddick) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:29:49 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] =?windows-1252?q?Walker_Percy_quoted_in_today=27s_NY_Ti?= =?windows-1252?q?mes=3A_Gauging_a_Collider=92s_Odds_of_Creating_a_Black_H?= =?windows-1252?q?ole?= In-Reply-To: <53c59b0c0804151029l2e60c80dme53ea71c5ca1906a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm aware of one instance of self-censorship that occured in the wake of 9/11. A scientist working on explosives gave up research into aluminum nanopowders. The explosive potential of a substance increases according to the surface area it has to react with oxygen when it combusts. Using nanomachining techniques, it's theoretically possible to churn out a small amount of highly porous aluminum compounds with extremely high explosive potential. It would be virtually impossible to detect by airport screeners. From robert.g.eckert at us.army.mil Sat Apr 19 11:25:51 2008 From: robert.g.eckert at us.army.mil (Eckert, Robert G SPC MIL USA FORSCOM) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:25:51 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] =?windows-1252?q?Walker_Percy_quoted_in_today=27s_NY_Ti?= =?windows-1252?q?mes=3A_Gauging_a_Collider=92s_Odds_of_Creating_a_Black_H?= =?windows-1252?q?ole?= In-Reply-To: References: <53c59b0c0804151029l2e60c80dme53ea71c5ca1906a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Makes me wonder what else is out there. Just spent a week in the field with an EOD (Explosive Ordinance Destruction) battalion. They have enough to worry about already. CPL Eckert ----- Original Message ----- From: Wade Riddick Date: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 20:28 Subject: Re: [percy-l] Walker Percy quoted in today's NY Times: Gauging a Collider?s Odds of Creating a Black Hole To: "Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion" > I'm aware of one instance of self-censorship that occured in the > wake of > 9/11. A scientist working on explosives gave up research into > aluminumnanopowders. The explosive potential of a substance > increases according to > the surface area it has to react with oxygen when it combusts. Using > nanomachining techniques, it's theoretically possible to churn out > a small > amount of highly porous aluminum compounds with extremely high > explosivepotential. It would be virtually impossible to detect by > airport screeners. > > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > From jhforest at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 08:36:39 2008 From: jhforest at gmail.com (Jim Forest) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:36:39 +0200 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy Remembered Message-ID: <53c59b0c0804290536h6eda6655x6de447298cb414af@mail.gmail.com> For those on this list who don't yet have a copy of "Walker Percy Remembered," let me add one more recommendation to any others that have previously been posted. As you may recall, the book contains a series of interviews made by David Horace Harwell and published by the University of North Carolina Press at Chapel Hill. I got a copy last week thanks to Nikki Barringer mentioning it a while back. Nikki is one of those interviewed, as were Shelby Foote, WP's two brothers, and a dozen other people close to Percy and his family. David Harwell must be a very peasant person to meet with. None of the voices we hear in these pages seem to be glancing at their watches while wondering when this guy will turn off the recorder and leave. If I wasn't hard-pressed for time -- I leave for Germany in a little while to give a talk about Dorothy Day -- I'd be tempted to include a quotation or two from the book, but then maybe that would take away some of the fun of reading the book yourself. Jim Forest PS Does anyone on the list have an e-mail note for David Horace Harwell? I'd like to send him a note of apprecaition. -- Jim & Nancy Forest Kanisstraat 5 1811 GJ Alkmaar The Netherlands Forest-Flier web site: www.incommunion.org/forest-flier/ Orthodox Peace Fellowship web site: www.incommunion.org photos: www.flickr.com/photos/jimforest/sets/ *recently published: "Silent as a Stone," a children's book about a community of rescuers in Nazi-occupied Paris:* http://incommunion.org/forest-flier/books/silent-as-a-stone-mother-maria-of-paris-and-the-trash-can-rescue/ *another new book: "The Road to Emmaus: Pilgrimage as a Way of Life":* http://incommunion.org/forest-flier/books/the-road-to-emmaus-pilgrimage-as-a-way-of-life/ * * * Nancy and I have been keeping a journal that follows our recent kidney transplant. A blog has been set up for this purpose -- A Tale of Two Kidneys. See: http://ataleof2kidneys.blogspot.com/ * * * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: