From marcus at loyno.edu Mon Dec 1 09:42:11 2008 From: marcus at loyno.edu (marcus at loyno.edu) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:42:11 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads Message-ID: <4933f7c3.169.18402a.14369@loyno.edu> Here's a Percy trace on Wikipedia: >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia According to Rod Dreher and Steven Greenhut, the Knotheads are one of the three emerging factions, along with the traditional Republican Establishment, and liberal Republicans, that will fight for control of the United States Republican Party following 2008 election. The Knotheads are by far the most right-wing of the three factions. In Dreher's words: "The knotheads believe that Obama's victory came thanks to the treason of some conservative intellectual elites and McCain's failure to be more like Reagan, whatever that means 20 years after the Gipper left the White House. Sarah Palin is the standard-bearer for the talk-radio faction within knotheadism." The term knothead first appears in a political context in Walker Percy's 1971 novel Love in the Ruins. Although a Catholic conservative himself, Percy satirized hard-core rightists in the following passage: "The Knotheads had their unseasonable rages, delusions of conspiracies, high blood pressure, and large bowel complaints." It is not known whether Dreher had this passage in mind when he used the term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knotheads From wriddick at usa.net Mon Dec 1 14:30:04 2008 From: wriddick at usa.net (Wade Riddick) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:30:04 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads In-Reply-To: <4933f7c3.169.18402a.14369@loyno.edu> Message-ID: >Here's a Percy trace on Wikipedia: > >>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > >According to Rod Dreher and Steven Greenhut, the Knotheads I went to school with Rod Dreher. I never understood his flirtations with the right wing. From robert.g.eckert at us.army.mil Wed Dec 10 23:39:05 2008 From: robert.g.eckert at us.army.mil (Eckert, Robert G SPC MIL USA FORSCOM) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:39:05 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads In-Reply-To: <4933f7c3.169.18402a.14369@loyno.edu> References: <4933f7c3.169.18402a.14369@loyno.edu> Message-ID: PALIN WAS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT MC CAIN'S ADVISERS WERE NUTS. THAT CAMPAIN WAS ALL ABOUT TACTICS AND NOTHING ABOUT ANY PHILOSOPHY; AND SHOULD PUT THE "NEOCONS" AWAY FOR A TIME. THE GOP HAS NO LEADERS IN CONGRESS, AND WILL RISE WITH GOVS LIKE BOBBY JINDAL, AND A FEW OTHERS. PALIN REMAINS THE DARLING OF THE NUTS, E.G. TALK SHOW HOSTS. IN THE LAST ANALYSIS REAGAN WAS A PRAGMATIST. I LIKE THE TERM "KNOTHEADS". THE NEO CONS WERE NEITHER "NEO" NOR "CON"... ----- Original Message ----- From: marcus at loyno.edu Date: Monday, December 1, 2008 8:53 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Here's a Percy trace on Wikipedia: > > >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > > According to Rod Dreher and Steven Greenhut, the Knotheads > are one of the three emerging factions, along with the > traditional Republican Establishment, and liberal > Republicans, that will fight for control of the United > States Republican Party following 2008 election. The > Knotheads are by far the most right-wing of the three > factions. In Dreher's words: "The knotheads believe that > Obama's victory came thanks to the treason of some > conservative intellectual elites and McCain's failure to be > more like Reagan, whatever that means 20 years after the > Gipper left the White House. Sarah Palin is the > standard-bearer for the talk-radio faction within > knotheadism." > > The term knothead first appears in a political context in > Walker Percy's 1971 novel Love in the Ruins. Although a > Catholic conservative himself, Percy satirized hard-core > rightists in the following passage: "The Knotheads had their > unseasonable rages, delusions of conspiracies, high blood > pressure, and large bowel complaints." It is not known > whether Dreher had this passage in mind when he used the > term. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knotheads > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy From steve.petrica at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 23:55:22 2008 From: steve.petrica at gmail.com (Steve Petrica) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:55:22 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads In-Reply-To: References: <4933f7c3.169.18402a.14369@loyno.edu> Message-ID: <29de60a0812102055x60fb3bb7mdb06053f067348a1@mail.gmail.com> You know, this level of political "discourse" is really getting old. Since it's hard to see what it has to do with Percy-oriented "literary and philosophical discussion," perhaps you could take it somewhere else. Steve On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Eckert, Robert G SPC MIL USA FORSCOM < robert.g.eckert at us.army.mil> wrote: PALIN WAS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT MC CAIN'S ADVISERS WERE NUTS. > THAT CAMPAIN WAS ALL ABOUT TACTICS AND NOTHING ABOUT ANY PHILOSOPHY; AND > SHOULD PUT THE > "NEOCONS" AWAY FOR A TIME. > THE GOP HAS NO LEADERS IN CONGRESS, AND WILL RISE WITH GOVS LIKE BOBBY > JINDAL, AND A FEW OTHERS. > PALIN REMAINS THE DARLING OF THE NUTS, E.G. TALK SHOW HOSTS. > IN THE LAST ANALYSIS REAGAN WAS A PRAGMATIST. > > I LIKE THE TERM "KNOTHEADS". > THE NEO CONS WERE NEITHER "NEO" NOR "CON"... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marcus at loyno.edu > Date: Monday, December 1, 2008 8:53 > Subject: [percy-l] knotheads > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > > > Here's a Percy trace on Wikipedia: > > > > >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > > > > According to Rod Dreher and Steven Greenhut, the Knotheads > > are one of the three emerging factions, along with the > > traditional Republican Establishment, and liberal > > Republicans, that will fight for control of the United > > States Republican Party following 2008 election. The > > Knotheads are by far the most right-wing of the three > > factions. In Dreher's words: "The knotheads believe that > > Obama's victory came thanks to the treason of some > > conservative intellectual elites and McCain's failure to be > > more like Reagan, whatever that means 20 years after the > > Gipper left the White House. Sarah Palin is the > > standard-bearer for the talk-radio faction within > > knotheadism." > > > > The term knothead first appears in a political context in > > Walker Percy's 1971 novel Love in the Ruins. Although a > > Catholic conservative himself, Percy satirized hard-core > > rightists in the following passage: "The Knotheads had their > > unseasonable rages, delusions of conspiracies, high blood > > pressure, and large bowel complaints." It is not known > > whether Dreher had this passage in mind when he used the > > term. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knotheads > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karey1 at charter.net Thu Dec 11 11:56:26 2008 From: karey1 at charter.net (Karey ) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:56:26 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads In-Reply-To: <29de60a0812102055x60fb3bb7mdb06053f067348a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4933f7c3.169.18402a.14369@loyno.edu> <29de60a0812102055x60fb3bb7mdb06053f067348a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003e01c95bb1$6820d150$386273f0$@net> It's Percy oriented because it was what Percy was writing about. I see Percy's themes and predictions in society constantly, yet have no one to whom to offer my comments on the recognition because few read Percy any more. That's what this listserv is for. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Petrica Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:55 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] knotheads You know, this level of political "discourse" is really getting old. Since it's hard to see what it has to do with Percy-oriented "literary and philosophical discussion," perhaps you could take it somewhere else. Steve On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Eckert, Robert G SPC MIL USA FORSCOM wrote: PALIN WAS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT MC CAIN'S ADVISERS WERE NUTS. THAT CAMPAIN WAS ALL ABOUT TACTICS AND NOTHING ABOUT ANY PHILOSOPHY; AND SHOULD PUT THE "NEOCONS" AWAY FOR A TIME. THE GOP HAS NO LEADERS IN CONGRESS, AND WILL RISE WITH GOVS LIKE BOBBY JINDAL, AND A FEW OTHERS. PALIN REMAINS THE DARLING OF THE NUTS, E.G. TALK SHOW HOSTS. IN THE LAST ANALYSIS REAGAN WAS A PRAGMATIST. I LIKE THE TERM "KNOTHEADS". THE NEO CONS WERE NEITHER "NEO" NOR "CON"... ----- Original Message ----- From: marcus at loyno.edu Date: Monday, December 1, 2008 8:53 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Here's a Percy trace on Wikipedia: > > >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > > According to Rod Dreher and Steven Greenhut, the Knotheads > are one of the three emerging factions, along with the > traditional Republican Establishment, and liberal > Republicans, that will fight for control of the United > States Republican Party following 2008 election. The > Knotheads are by far the most right-wing of the three > factions. In Dreher's words: "The knotheads believe that > Obama's victory came thanks to the treason of some > conservative intellectual elites and McCain's failure to be > more like Reagan, whatever that means 20 years after the > Gipper left the White House. Sarah Palin is the > standard-bearer for the talk-radio faction within > knotheadism." > > The term knothead first appears in a political context in > Walker Percy's 1971 novel Love in the Ruins. Although a > Catholic conservative himself, Percy satirized hard-core > rightists in the following passage: "The Knotheads had their > unseasonable rages, delusions of conspiracies, high blood > pressure, and large bowel complaints." It is not known > whether Dreher had this passage in mind when he used the > term. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knotheads > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kterrell at sheastokes.com Thu Dec 11 14:32:54 2008 From: kterrell at sheastokes.com (Karl M. Terrell) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:32:54 -0800 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert.g.eckert at us.army.mil Sun Dec 14 21:17:11 2008 From: robert.g.eckert at us.army.mil (Eckert, Robert G SPC MIL USA FORSCOM) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:17:11 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] knotheads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The latest knothead conspiracy theory--The leftist media supporting another Kennedy. Invoking Percy into present troubles must be relevant. Why else do we read him? Even low ranking stupid ideas belong here. WWPD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl M. Terrell" Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008 13:33 Subject: Re: [percy-l] knotheads To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. While I wouldn't want this list to veer way off into the > land of political ranting, the parallels between WP's 1971 > literary vision of 'knotheads' to what we've seen in the real > political world over the past 15 or so years (i.e., the rise and > fall since 1994 of the knotheads, after their capture of Congress > and dominance over political rhetoric) is most interesting indeed. > To draw that parallel out, it seems entirely appropriate to > discuss current politics. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org < > > To: 'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion' < > > Sent: Thu Dec 11 08:56:26 2008 > > Subject: Re: [percy-l] knotheads > > > > It?s Percy oriented because it was what Percy was writing about. I see Percy?s themes and predictions in society constantly, yet have no one to whom to offer my comments on the recognition because few read Percy any more. That?s what this listserv is for. > > > > > > > > Karey > > > > > > > > From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Petrica > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:55 PM > > To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion > > Subject: Re: [percy-l] knotheads > > > > > > > > You know, this level of political "discourse" is really getting old. Since it's hard to see what it has to do with Percy-oriented "literary and philosophical discussion," perhaps you could take it somewhere else. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Eckert, Robert G SPC MIL USA FORSCOM < wrote: > > > > > > > > PALIN WAS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT MC CAIN'S ADVISERS WERE NUTS. > > THAT CAMPAIN WAS ALL ABOUT TACTICS AND NOTHING ABOUT ANY PHILOSOPHY; AND SHOULD PUT THE > > "NEOCONS" AWAY FOR A TIME. > > THE GOP HAS NO LEADERS IN CONGRESS, AND WILL RISE WITH GOVS LIKE BOBBY JINDAL, AND A FEW OTHERS. > > PALIN REMAINS THE DARLING OF THE NUTS, E.G. TALK SHOW HOSTS. > > IN THE LAST ANALYSIS REAGAN WAS A PRAGMATIST. > > > > I LIKE THE TERM "KNOTHEADS". > > THE NEO CONS WERE NEITHER "NEO" NOR "CON"... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: marcus at loyno.edu > > Date: Monday, December 1, 2008 8:53 > > Subject: [percy-l] knotheads > > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > > > > > > Here's a Percy trace on Wikipedia: > > > > > > >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > > > > > > According to Rod Dreher and Steven Greenhut, the Knotheads > > > are one of the three emerging factions, along with the > > > traditional Republican Establishment, and liberal > > > Republicans, that will fight for control of the United > > > States Republican Party following 2008 election. The > > > Knotheads are by far the most right-wing of the three > > > factions. In Dreher's words: "The knotheads believe that > > > Obama's victory came thanks to the treason of some > > > conservative intellectual elites and McCain's failure to be > > > more like Reagan, whatever that means 20 years after the > > > Gipper left the White House. Sarah Palin is the > > > standard-bearer for the talk-radio faction within > > > knotheadism." > > > > > > The term knothead first appears in a political context in > > > Walker Percy's 1971 novel Love in the Ruins. Although a > > > Catholic conservative himself, Percy satirized hard-core > > > rightists in the following passage: "The Knotheads had their > > > unseasonable rages, delusions of conspiracies, high blood > > > pressure, and large bowel complaints." It is not known > > > whether Dreher had this passage in mind when he used the > > > term. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knotheads > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************* > PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION > This e-mail and any attachments transmitted are legally > privileged and confidential, and are intended only for > the individual or entity to whom it is directed. If you > are not the intended recipient, this email was sent to > you strictly inadvertently. You are not to read, copy or > distribute this email, and instead should delete this > email and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. > ********************************************************* > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy