From dabeck at iupui.edu Thu Jul 24 21:12:02 2008 From: dabeck at iupui.edu (Beck, David A) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:12:02 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] ?? Message-ID: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> Hey Percy people, I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and my thesis and can't find it. While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. Thanks! -David From rwarren at boultcummings.com Thu Jul 24 23:55:06 2008 From: rwarren at boultcummings.com (Warren, Jr., Richard F) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:55:06 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] ?? In-Reply-To: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> References: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> Message-ID: <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AC@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> David, I think that the passage you are seeking (good Percy term) is in Section 4 of Chapter 4 of The Last Gentleman, that most autobiographical of Percy novels (page 196 in my copy), in which we observe Will: Naturally in such an intersubjective paradise as this, he soon got the proper horrors. He began to skid a little and catch up with himself like a car on ice. His knee leapt so badly that he had to walk like a spastic, hand thrust through pocket and poking patella with each step. Spotting oncomers, fifty, sixty, seventy feet away, he began grinning and composing himself for the encounter. "Hi!" he hollered, Oh Lord, a good twenty feet too soon. The reminds me of another passage that I can't find (one of my two favorite WP paragraphs) with a Percy protagonist who notes that he always says "Hi" a step too soon or a step too late, distinguighing himself from those "hard-drinking Sewanee lads, gentle with women, secure in their own good names," who have that rhythm down. Anyone remember that one? Richard Richard F. Warren Boult, Cummings, Conners & Berry, PLC 1600 Division Street, Suite 700 P.O. Box 340025 Nashville, Tennessee 37203 direct tel.: (615) 252-2337 direct fax: (615) 252-6337 Mobile tel: (615) 969-5327 e-mail: rwarren at boultcummings.com -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:12 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: [percy-l] ?? Hey Percy people, I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and my thesis and can't find it. While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. Thanks! -David -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy ************************************************************ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete the contents of this message without disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any purpose, or storing or copying the information on any medium. ************************************************************ From Tammy.DiBenedetto at rcc.edu Fri Jul 25 07:42:01 2008 From: Tammy.DiBenedetto at rcc.edu (Tammy.DiBenedetto at rcc.edu) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:42:01 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] ?? References: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AC@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> Message-ID: <356EF64B3DA9A640BE06A772C985DE305E89AB@MSGSRV2.rccd.net> Hi Richard, I think the passage you're referencing is also from The Last Gentleman, Chapter 4, Section 11 (p. 265 of my edition), though not the part about saying 'Hi" a step too soon: The paragraph begins, "Something else disturbed him. Son Thigpen had brought over a carload of classmates from the university. . . ." Near the middle: His guests were Deltans, from the engineer's country, though he did not know them. But he knew their sort and it made him uneasy to see how little he was like them, how easy they were in their ways and how solitary and Yankeefied he was--though they seemed to take him immediately as one of them and easy too. The young men were Sewanee Episcopal types, good soft-spoken hard-drinking graceful youths, gentle with women and very much themselves with themselves, set, that is, for the next fifty years in the actuality of themselves and their own good names. They knew what they were, how things were, and how things should be. As for the engineer, he didn't know. I'm form the Delta too, thought he, sticking his hand down through his pocket, and I'm Episcopal: why ain't I like them, easy and actual? Oh, to be like Rooney Lee. Tammy DiBenedetto, PhD Associate Professor, English Riverside City College 4800 Magnolia Avenue Riverside, CA 92506 951.222.8271 ________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of Warren, Jr., Richard F Sent: Thu 7/24/2008 8:55 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] ?? David, I think that the passage you are seeking (good Percy term) is in Section 4 of Chapter 4 of The Last Gentleman, that most autobiographical of Percy novels (page 196 in my copy), in which we observe Will: Naturally in such an intersubjective paradise as this, he soon got the proper horrors. He began to skid a little and catch up with himself like a car on ice. His knee leapt so badly that he had to walk like a spastic, hand thrust through pocket and poking patella with each step. Spotting oncomers, fifty, sixty, seventy feet away, he began grinning and composing himself for the encounter. "Hi!" he hollered, Oh Lord, a good twenty feet too soon. The reminds me of another passage that I can't find (one of my two favorite WP paragraphs) with a Percy protagonist who notes that he always says "Hi" a step too soon or a step too late, distinguighing himself from those "hard-drinking Sewanee lads, gentle with women, secure in their own good names," who have that rhythm down. Anyone remember that one? Richard Richard F. Warren Boult, Cummings, Conners & Berry, PLC 1600 Division Street, Suite 700 P.O. Box 340025 Nashville, Tennessee 37203 direct tel.: (615) 252-2337 direct fax: (615) 252-6337 Mobile tel: (615) 969-5327 e-mail: rwarren at boultcummings.com -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:12 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: [percy-l] ?? Hey Percy people, I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and my thesis and can't find it. While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. Thanks! -David -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy ************************************************************ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete the contents of this message without disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any purpose, or storing or copying the information on any medium. ************************************************************ -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 7425 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rwarren at boultcummings.com Fri Jul 25 08:56:53 2008 From: rwarren at boultcummings.com (Warren, Jr., Richard F) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:56:53 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] ?? Message-ID: <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AD@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> Thanks, Tammy. That is it exactly. It is good to see some Percy quoted on the website Richard Sent from my Blackberry wireless handheld. ________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Fri Jul 25 06:42:01 2008 Subject: RE: [percy-l] ?? Hi Richard, I think the passage you're referencing is also from The Last Gentleman, Chapter 4, Section 11 (p. 265 of my edition), though not the part about saying 'Hi" a step too soon: The paragraph begins, "Something else disturbed him. Son Thigpen had brought over a carload of classmates from the university. . . ." Near the middle: His guests were Deltans, from the engineer's country, though he did not know them. But he knew their sort and it made him uneasy to see how little he was like them, how easy they were in their ways and how solitary and Yankeefied he was--though they seemed to take him immediately as one of them and easy too. The young men were Sewanee Episcopal types, good soft-spoken hard-drinking graceful youths, gentle with women and very much themselves with themselves, set, that is, for the next fifty years in the actuality of themselves and their own good names. They knew what they were, how things were, and how things should be. As for the engineer, he didn't know. I'm form the Delta too, thought he, sticking his hand down through his pocket, and I'm Episcopal: why ain't I like them, easy and actual? Oh, to be like Rooney Lee. Tammy DiBenedetto, PhD Associate Professor, English Riverside City College 4800 Magnolia Avenue Riverside, CA 92506 951.222.8271 ________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of Warren, Jr., Richard F Sent: Thu 7/24/2008 8:55 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] ?? David, I think that the passage you are seeking (good Percy term) is in Section 4 of Chapter 4 of The Last Gentleman, that most autobiographical of Percy novels (page 196 in my copy), in which we observe Will: Naturally in such an intersubjective paradise as this, he soon got the proper horrors. He began to skid a little and catch up with himself like a car on ice. His knee leapt so badly that he had to walk like a spastic, hand thrust through pocket and poking patella with each step. Spotting oncomers, fifty, sixty, seventy feet away, he began grinning and composing himself for the encounter. "Hi!" he hollered, Oh Lord, a good twenty feet too soon. The reminds me of another passage that I can't find (one of my two favorite WP paragraphs) with a Percy protagonist who notes that he always says "Hi" a step too soon or a step too late, distinguighing himself from those "hard-drinking Sewanee lads, gentle with women, secure in their own good names," who have that rhythm down. Anyone remember that one? Richard Richard F. Warren Boult, Cummings, Conners & Berry, PLC 1600 Division Street, Suite 700 P.O. Box 340025 Nashville, Tennessee 37203 direct tel.: (615) 252-2337 direct fax: (615) 252-6337 Mobile tel: (615) 969-5327 e-mail: rwarren at boultcummings.com -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:12 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: [percy-l] ?? Hey Percy people, I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and my thesis and can't find it. While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. Thanks! -David -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy ************************************************************ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete the contents of this message without disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any purpose, or storing or copying the information on any medium. ************************************************************ -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy ************************************************************ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. 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Maybe a discussion will begin. Thanks again! -David Quoting "Warren, Jr., Richard F" : > David, > > I think that the passage you are seeking (good Percy term) is in Section > 4 of Chapter 4 of The Last Gentleman, that most autobiographical of > Percy novels (page 196 in my copy), in which we observe Will: > > Naturally in such an intersubjective paradise as this, he soon got the > proper horrors. He began to skid a little and catch up with himself > like a car on ice. His knee leapt so badly that he had to walk like a > spastic, hand thrust through pocket and poking patella with each step. > Spotting oncomers, fifty, sixty, seventy feet away, he began grinning > and composing himself for the encounter. "Hi!" he hollered, Oh Lord, a > good twenty feet too soon. > > The reminds me of another passage that I can't find (one of my two > favorite WP paragraphs) with a Percy protagonist who notes that he > always says "Hi" a step too soon or a step too late, distinguighing > himself from those "hard-drinking Sewanee lads, gentle with women, > secure in their own good names," who have that rhythm down. Anyone > remember that one? > > Richard > > Richard F. Warren > > Boult, Cummings, Conners & Berry, PLC > 1600 Division Street, Suite 700 > P.O. Box 340025 > Nashville, Tennessee 37203 > direct tel.: (615) 252-2337 > direct fax: (615) 252-6337 > Mobile tel: (615) 969-5327 > e-mail: rwarren at boultcummings.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:12 PM > To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion > Subject: [percy-l] ?? > > Hey Percy people, > > I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second > Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and > he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and > my thesis and can't find it. > > While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it > is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. > > Thanks! > -David > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > ************************************************************ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments > are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are > not the named recipient, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the contents of this message without > disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any > purpose, or storing or copying the information on any > medium. > ************************************************************ > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > From dabeck at iupui.edu Fri Jul 25 22:21:38 2008 From: dabeck at iupui.edu (Beck, David A) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:21:38 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] ps In-Reply-To: <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AC@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> References: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AC@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> Message-ID: <20080725222138.qp3ju9xta80wg88w@webmail.iu.edu> Richard, This passage is the one I was referring to (chapter four, section four). Thanks again. -David Quoting "Warren, Jr., Richard F" : > David, > > I think that the passage you are seeking (good Percy term) is in Section > 4 of Chapter 4 of The Last Gentleman, that most autobiographical of > Percy novels (page 196 in my copy), in which we observe Will: > > Naturally in such an intersubjective paradise as this, he soon got the > proper horrors. He began to skid a little and catch up with himself > like a car on ice. His knee leapt so badly that he had to walk like a > spastic, hand thrust through pocket and poking patella with each step. > Spotting oncomers, fifty, sixty, seventy feet away, he began grinning > and composing himself for the encounter. "Hi!" he hollered, Oh Lord, a > good twenty feet too soon. > > The reminds me of another passage that I can't find (one of my two > favorite WP paragraphs) with a Percy protagonist who notes that he > always says "Hi" a step too soon or a step too late, distinguighing > himself from those "hard-drinking Sewanee lads, gentle with women, > secure in their own good names," who have that rhythm down. Anyone > remember that one? > > Richard > > Richard F. Warren > > Boult, Cummings, Conners & Berry, PLC > 1600 Division Street, Suite 700 > P.O. Box 340025 > Nashville, Tennessee 37203 > direct tel.: (615) 252-2337 > direct fax: (615) 252-6337 > Mobile tel: (615) 969-5327 > e-mail: rwarren at boultcummings.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:12 PM > To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion > Subject: [percy-l] ?? > > Hey Percy people, > > I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second > Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and > he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and > my thesis and can't find it. > > While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it > is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. > > Thanks! > -David > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > ************************************************************ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments > are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are > not the named recipient, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the contents of this message without > disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any > purpose, or storing or copying the information on any > medium. > ************************************************************ > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > From msexton at emory.edu Sat Jul 26 08:20:35 2008 From: msexton at emory.edu (Melissa Sexton) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:20:35 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] ps In-Reply-To: <20080725222138.qp3ju9xta80wg88w@webmail.iu.edu> References: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AC@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> <20080725222138.qp3ju9xta80wg88w@webmail.iu.edu> Message-ID: <20080726082035.f00qmtvdskc88g0s@webmail.service.emory.edu> Hi, David and Richard: I'm curious as to why you say TLG is the most autobiographical novel? Did I miss an article somewhere? Thanks, Melissa Sexton Emory University Quoting "Beck, David A" : > Richard, > > This passage is the one I was referring to (chapter four, section four). > > Thanks again. > -David > > Quoting "Warren, Jr., Richard F" : > >> David, >> >> I think that the passage you are seeking (good Percy term) is in Section >> 4 of Chapter 4 of The Last Gentleman, that most autobiographical of >> Percy novels (page 196 in my copy), in which we observe Will: >> >> Naturally in such an intersubjective paradise as this, he soon got the >> proper horrors. He began to skid a little and catch up with himself >> like a car on ice. His knee leapt so badly that he had to walk like a >> spastic, hand thrust through pocket and poking patella with each step. >> Spotting oncomers, fifty, sixty, seventy feet away, he began grinning >> and composing himself for the encounter. "Hi!" he hollered, Oh Lord, a >> good twenty feet too soon. >> >> The reminds me of another passage that I can't find (one of my two >> favorite WP paragraphs) with a Percy protagonist who notes that he >> always says "Hi" a step too soon or a step too late, distinguighing >> himself from those "hard-drinking Sewanee lads, gentle with women, >> secure in their own good names," who have that rhythm down. Anyone >> remember that one? >> >> Richard >> >> Richard F. Warren >> >> Boult, Cummings, Conners & Berry, PLC >> 1600 Division Street, Suite 700 >> P.O. Box 340025 >> Nashville, Tennessee 37203 >> direct tel.: (615) 252-2337 >> direct fax: (615) 252-6337 >> Mobile tel: (615) 969-5327 >> e-mail: rwarren at boultcummings.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org >> [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A >> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:12 PM >> To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion >> Subject: [percy-l] ?? >> >> Hey Percy people, >> >> I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second >> Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and >> he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and >> my thesis and can't find it. >> >> While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it >> is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. >> >> Thanks! >> -David >> >> -- >> An archive of all list discussion is available at >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ >> >> Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >> ************************************************************ >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments >> are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are >> not the named recipient, please notify the sender >> immediately and delete the contents of this message without >> disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any >> purpose, or storing or copying the information on any >> medium. >> ************************************************************ >> >> -- >> An archive of all list discussion is available at >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ >> >> Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >> > > > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > From tfa at brickengraver.com Sat Jul 26 08:28:43 2008 From: tfa at brickengraver.com (Tommy Armstrong) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:28:43 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] ?? In-Reply-To: <20080725221436.2dvf6wrz9v4ocgsw@webmail.iu.edu> References: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AC@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> <20080725221436.2dvf6wrz9v4ocgsw@webmail.iu.edu> Message-ID: <001701c8ef1b$251f68b0$6f5e3a10$@com> Maybe another "Group Read" is in order. Just a simple little thing where everyone who wants to participate agrees to read the same book and comment on it. I think another group was doing this a while back but cannot find the link. Any help? I am a big Patrick O'Brian fan, and we have a really active (sometimes overactive) group that discusses POB and everything else. If any of y'all have not ever read him, I would highly recommend. Percy and O'Brian, I think share much --both being Roman Catholics and both having an interest in the intersection of science, religion, and the individual. Percy, in some book, perhaps LITC, says that he could sit down and on an individual one on one basis relate to even a Kluxer, an individual as far removed from his politics as can be- The Aubrey Maturin series taken together is certainly in my opinion one of the greatest literary works of 20th century. Aubrey and Maturin are just two such characters, as different as a "right winger" and a "left winger", that come together to form perhaps the best friendship in all of literature. Tommy Armstrong PO Box 484 Lillington, NC 27546 (910) 893-5508 www.brickengraver.com "If you are a big enough fool to climb a tree and like a cat refuse to come down, then someone who loves you has to make as big a fool of himself to rescue you" Walker Percy -----Original Message----- From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:15 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] ?? Thank you, Richard and Tammy. My "marked up" copy is in my office on campus. I was tired of thumbing through the book (and, yes, my memory isn't what it used to be). Who knows? Maybe a discussion will begin. Thanks again! -David From dabeck at iupui.edu Sun Jul 27 20:53:10 2008 From: dabeck at iupui.edu (Beck, David A) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:53:10 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] ps In-Reply-To: <20080726082035.f00qmtvdskc88g0s@webmail.service.emory.edu> References: <20080724211202.7ht6ixy5cgk08oks@webmail.iu.edu> <39C8E95AD9A24F41A0178FB641077A5A01DC54AC@BCCB-EXCHANGE.BCCB.COM> <20080725222138.qp3ju9xta80wg88w@webmail.iu.edu> <20080726082035.f00qmtvdskc88g0s@webmail.service.emory.edu> Message-ID: <20080727205310.reurqq4m2o48cwws@webmail.iu.edu> Melissa et al, I went back through my emails (some I'd deleted) and didn't see a reference to TLG being the most autobiographical. (I know I didn't say it.) So, maybe I missed something, too. On another note (in an effort to keep the list breathing), how many have read McCarthy's THE ROAD? I wonder what Percy would've thought about it. It is somewhat nihilistic (like NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN), but it has a touch of intersubjectivity to it, too. Any thoughts? Quoting Melissa Sexton : > Hi, David and Richard: > I'm curious as to why you say TLG is the most autobiographical novel? > Did I miss an article somewhere? > Thanks, > Melissa Sexton > Emory University > > Quoting "Beck, David A" : > >> Richard, >> >> This passage is the one I was referring to (chapter four, section four). >> >> Thanks again. >> -David >> >> Quoting "Warren, Jr., Richard F" : >> >>> David, >>> >>> I think that the passage you are seeking (good Percy term) is in Section >>> 4 of Chapter 4 of The Last Gentleman, that most autobiographical of >>> Percy novels (page 196 in my copy), in which we observe Will: >>> >>> Naturally in such an intersubjective paradise as this, he soon got the >>> proper horrors. He began to skid a little and catch up with himself >>> like a car on ice. His knee leapt so badly that he had to walk like a >>> spastic, hand thrust through pocket and poking patella with each step. >>> Spotting oncomers, fifty, sixty, seventy feet away, he began grinning >>> and composing himself for the encounter. "Hi!" he hollered, Oh Lord, a >>> good twenty feet too soon. >>> >>> The reminds me of another passage that I can't find (one of my two >>> favorite WP paragraphs) with a Percy protagonist who notes that he >>> always says "Hi" a step too soon or a step too late, distinguighing >>> himself from those "hard-drinking Sewanee lads, gentle with women, >>> secure in their own good names," who have that rhythm down. Anyone >>> remember that one? >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Richard F. Warren >>> >>> Boult, Cummings, Conners & Berry, PLC >>> 1600 Division Street, Suite 700 >>> P.O. Box 340025 >>> Nashville, Tennessee 37203 >>> direct tel.: (615) 252-2337 >>> direct fax: (615) 252-6337 >>> Mobile tel: (615) 969-5327 >>> e-mail: rwarren at boultcummings.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org >>> [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Beck, David A >>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:12 PM >>> To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion >>> Subject: [percy-l] ?? >>> >>> Hey Percy people, >>> >>> I'm trying to find a passage either in The Last Gentleman or The Second >>> Coming. It is when Will is on a college campus; his knee is jerking and >>> he greets the on-comers too early. I've checked both of my editions and >>> my thesis and can't find it. >>> >>> While page numbers vary, if someone could give me the book (I think it >>> is The Second Coming) and chapter, that would be great. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> -David >>> >>> -- >>> An archive of all list discussion is available at >>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ >>> >>> Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >>> ************************************************************ >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments >>> are confidential and may also be privileged. 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Nikki Barranger **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dabeck at iupui.edu Mon Jul 28 20:02:43 2008 From: dabeck at iupui.edu (Beck, David A) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:02:43 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] ps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080728200243.nywy3w5phcwk8cc4@webmail.iu.edu> The apocalypse isn't a pertinent event? The remaining few people trying survive--a father trying to protect his son from the remaining people who have become lawless--isn't a pertinent event? Doesn't it have echoes of Love in the Ruins??? If isn't pertinent, then what is? Can you explain your remark? I realize that you knew WP, but your comment makes no sense to me. Have you read the book? Baffled. -David Quoting Nikkibar at aol.com: > My guess is that Walker would have found the ROAD endless and lacking in > pertinent event. > > Nikki Barranger > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > From Nikkibar at aol.com Mon Jul 28 20:27:30 2008 From: Nikkibar at aol.com (Nikkibar at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:27:30 EDT Subject: [percy-l] ps Message-ID: Yes, I read it and wished I had reread LITR instead. There is in my view a difference between talking "about" the apocalypse which (let's face it) hasn't happened yet, and the building blocks that constitute a successful novel. Just my thought for what it's worth. Nikki **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. 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There is in my view a > difference between talking "about" the apocalypse which (let's face > it) hasn't > happened yet, and the building blocks that constitute a successful novel. > Just my thought for what it's worth. > > Nikki > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > From Nikkibar at aol.com Mon Jul 28 23:48:13 2008 From: Nikkibar at aol.com (Nikkibar at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:48:13 EDT Subject: [percy-l] ps Message-ID: I think I'd let others sound off on this one. I think that Walker would have found Road boring for the same reason he found Proust boring. The same reason he found Barcester Towers boring. Shelby was always trying to get him to read the one and I the other. He turned thumbs down on both after trying them. The fact is that there is no accounting for taste. Those were his tastes. That was how the question was put. 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URL: From jeffballow at nycmail.com Wed Jul 30 07:19:16 2008 From: jeffballow at nycmail.com (Jeff Ballow) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:19:16 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] ps Message-ID: <20080730111916.526D1104F0@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> I guess I'll go more lowbrow - I've always wondered what Percy would have thought about American Idol! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tommy Armstrong" > To: "'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion'" > Subject: Re: [percy-l] ps > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:04:47 -0400 > > > I often wonder what he would have thought of Stephen Maturin in O'Brian > series. I think would have thought him to be a kindred soul. > > > > Tommy Armstrong > > PO Box 484 > > Lillington, NC 27546 > > (910) 893-5508 > > www.brickengraver.com > > > > The search is what anyone would undertake if he were not sunk in the > everydayness of his own life. To be aware of the possibility of the search > is to be onto something. Not to be onto something is to be in despair. > > Walker Percy > > > > From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org > [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nikkibar at aol.com > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:48 PM > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [percy-l] ps > > > > I think I'd let others sound off on this one. I think that Walker would have > found Road boring for the same reason he found Proust boring. The same > reason he found Barcester Towers boring. Shelby was always trying to get him > to read the one and I the other. He turned thumbs down on both after trying > them. The fact is that there is no accounting for taste. Those were his > tastes. That was how the question was put. > > > > Nikki > > > > > > _____ > > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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