From riz_banu at hotmail.com Tue Oct 13 05:21:52 2009 From: riz_banu at hotmail.com (rizwana banu) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:51:52 +0530 Subject: [percy-l] interest in Percy Message-ID: Hi, I am Banu. Can someone throw some light on Percy's stand on being a Southern- as regards the religion,and being white. _________________________________________________________________ Newsmakers and happenings from around the world ? just one click away on MSN India http://in.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riz_banu at hotmail.com Tue Oct 20 06:14:28 2009 From: riz_banu at hotmail.com (rizwana banu) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:44:28 +0530 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Message-ID: From: riz_banu at hotmail.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? _________________________________________________________________ Newsmakers and happenings from around the world ? just one click away on MSN India http://in.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nikkibar at aol.com Tue Oct 20 11:41:03 2009 From: nikkibar at aol.com (Garic Barranger) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <979FB542-1086-416B-9738-B703C360A83E@aol.com> Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: > > > From: riz_banu at hotmail.com > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: percy's southernness > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 > > I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of > his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I > find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern > background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class > distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. > Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards > the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a > particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of > aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within > his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the > period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem > to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? > > Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world > panorama = -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riz_banu at hotmail.com Wed Oct 21 05:40:49 2009 From: riz_banu at hotmail.com (rizwana banu) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:10:49 +0530 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: <979FB542-1086-416B-9738-B703C360A83E@aol.com> References: Message-ID: What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a white anyway? From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: From: riz_banu at hotmail.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world panorama = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _________________________________________________________________ News, views and inimitable perspectives ? On MSN India, you get an all-round view of things that matter. http://in.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nikkibar at aol.com Wed Oct 21 17:03:18 2009 From: nikkibar at aol.com (Garic Barranger) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:03:18 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The characteristics of being a Southern writer are 1. You should be from the Southern United States and 2 You should write. Walker hated being referred to that way and always would rather be read as simply a writer. That he was Southern was for him incidental and not of great importance. Nor is his Catholicism of any characteristic importance. Eudora Welty wasn't, nor was Faulkner. Nor am I, although nobody much reads my work the way they do with Percy, Welty, or Faulkner. And yet by all right I am a Southern writer and I'll fight the man what says it isn't so. Or at least smile in sardonic amusement. Nikki Barranger On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:40 AM, rizwana banu wrote: > What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is > it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern > writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a > white anyway? > > From: nikkibar at aol.com > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness > > Dear Rizwana, > > It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his > contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be > a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are > lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to > struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's > influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a > beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone > who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are > loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some > further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. > I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last > question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about > the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the > ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery > O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be > difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch > the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope > this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. > > Nikki Barranger > On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: > > > > From: riz_banu at hotmail.com > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: percy's southernness > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 > > I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of > his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I > find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern > background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class > distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. > Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards > the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a > particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of > aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within > his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the > period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem > to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? > > Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world > panorama = -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > From the events that change the world, to the ones that just > shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop = -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riz_banu at hotmail.com Wed Oct 21 20:41:01 2009 From: riz_banu at hotmail.com (rizwana banu) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:11:01 +0530 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is beautiful. The spirit of southern writing springs not from being similar but being diverse and celebrating all that pertains to the south, be it the history( it is one history for the white man and another for the black and sometimes a shared history), religion, or gender. However, critics want to exaggerate the differences to the extent of convoluting the very joy and essence of being southern. This makes it hard to substantiate one's southernness with a necessity to take a stand on either this or that side. From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:03:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness The characteristics of being a Southern writer are 1. You should be from the Southern United States and 2 You should write. Walker hated being referred to that way and always would rather be read as simply a writer. That he was Southern was for him incidental and not of great importance. Nor is his Catholicism of any characteristic importance. Eudora Welty wasn't, nor was Faulkner. Nor am I, although nobody much reads my work the way they do with Percy, Welty, or Faulkner. And yet by all right I am a Southern writer and I'll fight the man what says it isn't so. Or at least smile in sardonic amusement. Nikki Barranger On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:40 AM, rizwana banu wrote:What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a white anyway? From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: From: riz_banu at hotmail.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world panorama = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy = _________________________________________________________________ News, views and inimitable perspectives ? On MSN India, you get an all-round view of things that matter. http://in.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karey1 at charter.net Wed Oct 21 21:24:04 2009 From: karey1 at charter.net (Karey Perkins) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:24:04 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00cf01ca52b6$5a4ef550$0eecdff0$@net> There is the "southern gothic" meaning this species of southern writing contains the characteristics of the gothic; i.e.: dark and violent. Faulkner and O'Conner have been said to be "southern gothic," but I don't see Percy there. I am taking a Southern Literature course next semester - what does it mean? Well,what Nikki says, you are southern, and you are a writer - does that distinguish you in any way from the rest of the country? How is it different? One question to ask is, how does Updike (as in, the Rabbit series, same era) differ from Percy? Percy is Southern, aristocratic, Catholic; Updike, Northern, lower middle class, Protestant. How are protagonists, themes, etc. different? I have been told that "soul" arises from pain. The South - of all regions of the country - went through pain after the Civil War - and I would say unjust pain, after being defeated and subsequently taken advantage of. There is a soul to southern writing that manifests in the early to mid 20th century. Catholic - Percy is obviously and consciously (and subconsciously) Catholic. Whether Percy saw a difference between himself and other authors from other regions is probably unimportant. It's hard to see ourselves. Percy was especially blind to himself in lots of ways. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of rizwana banu Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:41 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness That is beautiful. The spirit of southern writing springs not from being similar but being diverse and celebrating all that pertains to the south, be it the history( it is one history for the white man and another for the black and sometimes a shared history), religion, or gender. However, critics want to exaggerate the differences to the extent of convoluting the very joy and essence of being southern. This makes it hard to substantiate one's southernness with a necessity to take a stand on either this or that side. _____ From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:03:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness The characteristics of being a Southern writer are 1. You should be from the Southern United States and 2 You should write. Walker hated being referred to that way and always would rather be read as simply a writer. That he was Southern was for him incidental and not of great importance. Nor is his Catholicism of any characteristic importance. Eudora Welty wasn't, nor was Faulkner. Nor am I, although nobody much reads my work the way they do with Percy, Welty, or Faulkner. And yet by all right I am a Southern writer and I'll fight the man what says it isn't so. Or at least smile in sardonic amusement. Nikki Barranger On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:40 AM, rizwana banu wrote: What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a white anyway? _____ From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: _____ From: riz_banu at hotmail.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? _____ Don't fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world panorama = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _____ >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn't be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n ' drop = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy = _____ >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn't be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n ' drop -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hebrunson at aol.com Thu Oct 22 06:42:37 2009 From: Hebrunson at aol.com (Hebrunson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:42:37 EDT Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Message-ID: Often in this thread, I've heard Percy referred to as Catholic. At what point is his writing did he leave the Episcopal Church to become a Catholic? Did his writing change after this? HB In a message dated 10/21/2009 8:25:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, karey1 at charter.net writes: There is the ?southern gothic? meaning this species of southern writing contains the characteristics of the gothic; i.e.: dark and violent. Faulkner and O?Conner have been said to be ?southern gothic,? but I don?t see Percy there. I am taking a Southern Literature course next semester ? what does it mean? Well,what Nikki says, you are southern, and you are a writer ? does that distinguish you in any way from the rest of the country? How is it different? One question to ask is, how does Updike (as in, the Rabbit series, same era) differ from Percy? Percy is Southern, aristocratic, Catholic; Updike, Northern, lower middle class, Protestant. How are protagonists, themes, etc. different? I have been told that ?soul? arises from pain. The South ? of all regions of the country ? went through pain after the Civil War ? and I would say unjust pain, after being defeated and subsequently taken advantage of. There is a soul to southern writing that manifests in the early to mid 20th century. Catholic ? Percy is obviously and consciously (and subconsciously) Catholic. Whether Percy saw a difference between himself and other authors from other regions is probably unimportant. It?s hard to see ourselves. Percy was especially blind to himself in lots of ways. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of rizwana banu Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:41 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness That is beautiful. The spirit of southern writing springs not from being similar but being diverse and celebrating all that pertains to the south, be it the history( it is one history for the white man and another for the black and sometimes a shared history), religion, or gender. However, critics want to exaggerate the differences to the extent of convoluting the very joy and essence of being southern. This makes it hard to substantiate one's southernness with a necessity to take a stand on either this or that side. ____________________________________ From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:03:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness The characteristics of being a Southern writer are 1. You should be from the Southern United States and 2 You should write. Walker hated being referred to that way and always would rather be read as simply a writer. That he was Southern was for him incidental and not of great importance. Nor is his Catholicism of any characteristic importance. Eudora Welty wasn't, nor was Faulkner. Nor am I, although nobody much reads my work the way they do with Percy, Welty, or Faulkner. And yet by all right I am a Southern writer and I'll fight the man what says it isn't so. Or at least smile in sardonic amusement. Nikki Barranger On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:40 AM, rizwana banu wrote: What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a white anyway? ____________________________________ From: _nikkibar at aol.com_ (mailto:nikkibar at aol.com) To: _percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org_ (mailto:percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: ____________________________________ From: _riz_banu at hotmail.com_ (mailto:riz_banu at hotmail.com) To: _percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org_ (mailto:percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org) Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? ____________________________________ Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world panorama = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at _http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/_ (http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/) Visit the Walker Percy Project at _http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy_ (http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy) ____________________________________ >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. _Drag n? drop_ (http://in.msn.com/) = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at _http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/_ (http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/) Visit the Walker Percy Project at _http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy_ (http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy) = ____________________________________ >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. _Drag n? drop_ (http://in.msn.com/) -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Thu Oct 22 17:40:51 2009 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:40:51 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He was Catholic before he was published, so I don't think it's possible to trace a change in his writing following his conversion. However, you might find his essay "Why I Became Catholic" of interest. I'm pretty sure it's in Signposts in a Strange Land. --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy From: Hebrunson at aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:42:37 -0400 To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Often in this thread, I've heard Percy referred to as Catholic. At what point is his writing did he leave the Episcopal Church to become a Catholic? Did his writing change after this? HB In a message dated 10/21/2009 8:25:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, karey1 at charter.net writes: There is the ?southern gothic? meaning this species of southern writing contains the characteristics of the gothic; i.e.: dark and violent. Faulkner and O?Conner have been said to be ?southern gothic,? but I don?t see Percy there. I am taking a Southern Literature course next semester ? what does it mean? Well,what Nikki says, you are southern, and you are a writer ? does that distinguish you in any way from the rest of the country? How is it different? One question to ask is, how does Updike (as in, the Rabbit series, same era) differ from Percy? Percy is Southern, aristocratic, Catholic; Updike, Northern, lower middle class, Protestant. How are protagonists, themes, etc. different? I have been told that ?soul? arises from pain. The South ? of all regions of the country ? went through pain after the Civil War ? and I would say unjust pain, after being defeated and subsequently taken advantage of. There is a soul to southern writing that manifests in the early to mid 20th century. Catholic ? Percy is obviously and consciously (and subconsciously) Catholic. Whether Percy saw a difference between himself and other authors from other regions is probably unimportant. It?s hard to see ourselves. Percy was especially blind to himself in lots of ways. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of rizwana banu Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:41 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness That is beautiful. The spirit of southern writing springs not from being similar but being diverse and celebrating all that pertains to the south, be it the history( it is one history for the white man and another for the black and sometimes a shared history), religion, or gender. However, critics want to exaggerate the differences to the extent of convoluting the very joy and essence of being southern. This makes it hard to substantiate one's southernness with a necessity to take a stand on either this or that side. From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:03:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness The characteristics of being a Southern writer are 1. You should be from the Southern United States and 2 You should write. Walker hated being referred to that way and always would rather be read as simply a writer. That he was Southern was for him incidental and not of great importance. Nor is his Catholicism of any characteristic importance. Eudora Welty wasn't, nor was Faulkner. Nor am I, although nobody much reads my work the way they do with Percy, Welty, or Faulkner. And yet by all right I am a Southern writer and I'll fight the man what says it isn't so. Or at least smile in sardonic amusement. Nikki Barranger On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:40 AM, rizwana banu wrote: What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a white anyway? From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: From: riz_banu at hotmail.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world panorama = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy = From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Thu Oct 22 17:55:17 2009 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:55:17 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: <00cf01ca52b6$5a4ef550$0eecdff0$@net> References: Message-ID: I'm with you Karey. And aren't we all blind to what we are to some extent? That injunction--know thyself--remains the most difficult one to follow. Percy may have hated being referred to as a Southern writer in the way that we all find labels confining, but the South was more than just a backdrop for his work. For all that his writing is universal, if a reader doesn't understand something about the South and about Southerners, then some of Percy's meaning remains obscured. Like it or not, that's how it is. The same goes for his Catholicism. If a reader knows nothing about the Catholic world view, then something is missed. That doesn't mean that there isn't plenty left to chew over, but understanding where Percy is coming from helps. Otherwise, you might end up thinking that Binx is no more than medical student at the end of Moviegoer and miss the whole thing. Like Will misses the whole thing at the end of The Last Gentleman. For Karey, a statement attributed to Pat Conroy goes something like this: ?My mother, Southern to the bone, once told me, 'All Southern literature can be summed up in these words: On the night the hogs ate Willie, Mama died when she heard what Daddy did to sister.? But that's the Southern Gothic stuff, with that whiff of incest, that darkness and violence. And I agree that that wasn't Percy's particular milieu although somewhere back in the Percy line there was a Gothic writer--see Betram Wyatt-Brown's The Literary Percys for that story. Ok, enough. I'll do darn near anything to avoid real work! --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy From: karey1 at charter.net To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:24:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness There is the ?southern gothic? meaning this species of southern writing contains the characteristics of the gothic; i.e.: dark and violent. Faulkner and O?Conner have been said to be ?southern gothic,? but I don?t see Percy there. I am taking a Southern Literature course next semester ? what does it mean? Well,what Nikki says, you are southern, and you are a writer ? does that distinguish you in any way from the rest of the country? How is it different? One question to ask is, how does Updike (as in, the Rabbit series, same era) differ from Percy? Percy is Southern, aristocratic, Catholic; Updike, Northern, lower middle class, Protestant. How are protagonists, themes, etc. different? I have been told that ?soul? arises from pain. The South ? of all regions of the country ? went through pain after the Civil War ? and I would say unjust pain, after being defeated and subsequently taken advantage of. There is a soul to southern writing that manifests in the early to mid 20th century. Catholic ? Percy is obviously and consciously (and subconsciously) Catholic. Whether Percy saw a difference between himself and other authors from other regions is probably unimportant. It?s hard to see ourselves. Percy was especially blind to himself in lots of ways. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of rizwana banu Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:41 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness That is beautiful. The spirit of southern writing springs not from being similar but being diverse and celebrating all that pertains to the south, be it the history( it is one history for the white man and another for the black and sometimes a shared history), religion, or gender. However, critics want to exaggerate the differences to the extent of convoluting the very joy and essence of being southern. This makes it hard to substantiate one's southernness with a necessity to take a stand on either this or that side. From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:03:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness The characteristics of being a Southern writer are 1. You should be from the Southern United States and 2 You should write. Walker hated being referred to that way and always would rather be read as simply a writer. That he was Southern was for him incidental and not of great importance. Nor is his Catholicism of any characteristic importance. Eudora Welty wasn't, nor was Faulkner. Nor am I, although nobody much reads my work the way they do with Percy, Welty, or Faulkner. And yet by all right I am a Southern writer and I'll fight the man what says it isn't so. Or at least smile in sardonic amusement. Nikki Barranger On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:40 AM, rizwana banu wrote: What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a white anyway? From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: From: riz_banu at hotmail.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world panorama = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy = >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riz_banu at hotmail.com Fri Oct 23 06:12:52 2009 From: riz_banu at hotmail.com (rizwana banu) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:42:52 +0530 Subject: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: quite often it becomes fashionable and essential, in the long period of time to stand up and explain with concrete specificity what would have passed off as obvious and clearly simple. In Percy's case it was okay and acceptable to see his world view of things with or without categorical insistence on being a southerner- merely in terms of being from the South and a writer at that. But, in today's globalized world do you not think that one is bound to allege loyalty to where he comes from and to what extent one reflects the concerns and sensibilities in terms of a community? It is not easily taken as in earlier times, when one would accept dissent within a community. Percy,however was liberal in thought. Is it easy for a writer to voice dissent or proclaim divergent thought within southern literature and community? Has the ghost over grown to subsume independent and divergent thought? If yes, what is the future of southern writing? From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:55:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness I'm with you Karey. And aren't we all blind to what we are to some extent? That injunction--know thyself--remains the most difficult one to follow. Percy may have hated being referred to as a Southern writer in the way that we all find labels confining, but the South was more than just a backdrop for his work. For all that his writing is universal, if a reader doesn't understand something about the South and about Southerners, then some of Percy's meaning remains obscured. Like it or not, that's how it is. The same goes for his Catholicism. If a reader knows nothing about the Catholic world view, then something is missed. That doesn't mean that there isn't plenty left to chew over, but understanding where Percy is coming from helps. Otherwise, you might end up thinking that Binx is no more than medical student at the end of Moviegoer and miss the whole thing. Like Will misses the whole thing at the end of The Last Gentleman. For Karey, a statement attributed to Pat Conroy goes something like this: ?My mother, Southern to the bone, once told me, 'All Southern literature can be summed up in these words: On the night the hogs ate Willie, Mama died when she heard what Daddy did to sister.? But that's the Southern Gothic stuff, with that whiff of incest, that darkness and violence. And I agree that that wasn't Percy's particular milieu although somewhere back in the Percy line there was a Gothic writer--see Betram Wyatt-Brown's The Literary Percys for that story. Ok, enough. I'll do darn near anything to avoid real work! --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy From: karey1 at charter.net To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:24:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness There is the ?southern gothic? meaning this species of southern writing contains the characteristics of the gothic; i.e.: dark and violent. Faulkner and O?Conner have been said to be ?southern gothic,? but I don?t see Percy there. I am taking a Southern Literature course next semester ? what does it mean? Well,what Nikki says, you are southern, and you are a writer ? does that distinguish you in any way from the rest of the country? How is it different? One question to ask is, how does Updike (as in, the Rabbit series, same era) differ from Percy? Percy is Southern, aristocratic, Catholic; Updike, Northern, lower middle class, Protestant. How are protagonists, themes, etc. different? I have been told that ?soul? arises from pain. The South ? of all regions of the country ? went through pain after the Civil War ? and I would say unjust pain, after being defeated and subsequently taken advantage of. There is a soul to southern writing that manifests in the early to mid 20th century. Catholic ? Percy is obviously and consciously (and subconsciously) Catholic. Whether Percy saw a difference between himself and other authors from other regions is probably unimportant. It?s hard to see ourselves. Percy was especially blind to himself in lots of ways. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of rizwana banu Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:41 PM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness That is beautiful. The spirit of southern writing springs not from being similar but being diverse and celebrating all that pertains to the south, be it the history( it is one history for the white man and another for the black and sometimes a shared history), religion, or gender. However, critics want to exaggerate the differences to the extent of convoluting the very joy and essence of being southern. This makes it hard to substantiate one's southernness with a necessity to take a stand on either this or that side. From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:03:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness The characteristics of being a Southern writer are 1. You should be from the Southern United States and 2 You should write. Walker hated being referred to that way and always would rather be read as simply a writer. That he was Southern was for him incidental and not of great importance. Nor is his Catholicism of any characteristic importance. Eudora Welty wasn't, nor was Faulkner. Nor am I, although nobody much reads my work the way they do with Percy, Welty, or Faulkner. And yet by all right I am a Southern writer and I'll fight the man what says it isn't so. Or at least smile in sardonic amusement. Nikki Barranger On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:40 AM, rizwana banu wrote: What exactly are the characteristics of being a southern writer? Is it difficult or necessary to prove being a white catholic southern writer? How is it different from being a protestant writer and a white anyway? From: nikkibar at aol.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] FW: percy's southernness Dear Rizwana, It is doubtful whether Uncle Will would have been thought of by his contemporaries as bigoted. Walker certainly wasn't. It would also be a mistake to assume that Southern implies bigotedness. There are lots of folks hereabouts who are not, although sometimes we have to struggle against it. If you want to understand Uncle Will's influence on Walker, reread The Moviegoer. There is therein a beneficent aunt who is a kind of alter ego of uncle Will, someone who stands for the things of the generation before to which we are loyal without surrendering our inner most selves. You might get some further insight into the matter by reading Walker Percy Remembered. I have some trouble figuring what you mean by alienated in your last question. You might read Eudora Welty (particularly her piece about the death of Medgar Evers) and although it may be hard to follow the ironies within the works (many Americans can't) look at Flannery O'Connor, particularly A Good Man Is Hard To Find. It would be difficult to describe Miss Welty as being alienated but if I catch the drift of your question she may fit with what you mean. I hope this doesn't confuse the issue further for you. Nikki Barranger On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, rizwana banu wrote: From: riz_banu at hotmail.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: percy's southernness Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0530 I have been trying to understand Percy's southernness in terms of his biography, as regards the influence of "Uncle Will" on him. I find that inspite of his upbringing in a upper class southern background he had a mind of his own which went beyond mere class distinctions and vested interests in retaining class distinctions. Percy was able to see clearly the two sides of the coin as regards the civil war, not as a defeat of the South but as one of a particular class of society. Percy with his southern roots of aristocracy was yet not bigoted. He seems to be a minority within his own circle. Who are the other southern novelists during the period from 1960s to 1990s or even contemporary novelists who seem to be alienated/unique in their understanding within their own group? Don?t fall behind. Log on to MSN India for a roundup on the world panorama = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop = -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy = >From the events that change the world, to the ones that just shouldn?t be missed. Catch it all on MSN India. Drag n? drop Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hpmills3 at austin.rr.com Sat Oct 31 12:20:13 2009 From: hpmills3 at austin.rr.com (Henry Mills) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:20:13 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] FW: Moviegoer Screenplay? In-Reply-To: <3881fbf80910302009y54616f7ex97c4b7250a004c42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Does anyone have any information for Ms. Mullen or other thoughts on the subject of MG as film? Best, Henry Mills > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Shannon Mullen > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:09:34 -0400 > To: > Subject: Moviegoer Screenplay? > > Hello Henry, > > I'm a film producer based in New England, and this afternoon I was discussing > Walker Percy's "The Moviegoer" with some colleagues when the subject of > Terrence Mallick's adaptation came up.? We'd all heard back in 1997 that he'd > written a screenplay based on the book, and we're wondering whether anything > has happened with the project since...? > > Can you tell me whether you've heard any updates, and whether Mr. Mallick > currently owns the book option?? If not, do you know who does? > > Kind regards, > Shannon A. Mullen > e: shannonamullen at gmail.com > ------ End of Forwarded Message -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leftatthegate at gmail.com Sat Oct 31 13:47:48 2009 From: leftatthegate at gmail.com (D.E. Pierce) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:47:48 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] Moviegoer screenplay. Message-ID: <313d1c730910311047m2f997f0ao154b131bd7e2cde1@mail.gmail.com> I seem to recall having read in Patrick Samway's biography of Dr. Percy that there had been several aborted attempts at filming The Moviegoer, though I don't remember Mallick having been mentioned. At some point in the late 60s or early 70s a production might have actually commenced, with Sam Waterston (apparently a Percy fan) in the role of Binx, but this project was also shelved. The most recent news I read regarding the filming of a Percy novel was three or four years ago. Donal Logue (best known as a comic actor, I think) was signed-on to direct a film adaptation of The Second Coming, with Bill Paxton playing Will Barrett. I'm unsure as to what became of that. - enos On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM, wrote: > Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to > percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. FW: Moviegoer Screenplay? (Henry Mills) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:20:13 -0500 > From: Henry Mills > Subject: [percy-l] FW: Moviegoer Screenplay? > To: percy-l > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Does anyone have any information for Ms. Mullen or other thoughts on the > subject of MG as film? > > Best, > Henry Mills > > > > > ------ Forwarded Message > > From: Shannon Mullen > > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:09:34 -0400 > > To: > > Subject: Moviegoer Screenplay? > > > > > Hello Henry, > > > > I'm a film producer based in New England, and this afternoon I was > discussing > > Walker Percy's "The Moviegoer" with some colleagues when the subject of > > Terrence Mallick's adaptation came up.? We'd all heard back in 1997 that > he'd > > written a screenplay based on the book, and we're wondering whether > anything > > has happened with the project since...? > > > > Can you tell me whether you've heard any updates, and whether Mr. Mallick > > currently owns the book option?? If not, do you know who does? > > > > Kind regards, > > Shannon A. Mullen > > e: shannonamullen at gmail.com > > > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20091031/5777959a/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Percy-L mailing list > Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > > End of Percy-L Digest, Vol 68, Issue 8 > ************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hpmills3 at austin.rr.com Sat Oct 31 22:52:21 2009 From: hpmills3 at austin.rr.com (Henry Mills) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:52:21 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] FW: Moviegoer Screenplay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is info about Key?s stage rendition of Lost in the Cosmos. Karl, is this what you refer to as being staged five years ago in your message below? Best, Henry Mills LOST IN THE COSMOS: THE LAST SELF-HELP SEMINAR Theatrical Outfit of Atlanta is extremely proud to announce the World Premiere of the stage adaptation of Walker Percy's "Lost in the Cosmos." Adapted to the stage by Theatrical Outfit producing artistic director Tom Key, "Lost in the Cosmos: The Last Self-Help Seminar" will open with previews on Friday, February 9th, 1996 at the Fourteenth Street Playhouse followed by Opening Night on Wednesday, February 14th. The production is currently set to run through February 25th. In this science-fiction parody, Harold Pierceson, a three time divorced dentist from Anaheim, California, participates in a self-help seminar in the hope it will be his last. Harold is required by the "seminar guides" to take a short preliminary self-help quiz to determine that he is, in fact, "lost in the cosmos." Consequently, he is included in a series of improvisational scenarios dealing with issues of war, space travel, envy and lust. He finds himself part of a tour group targeted for missile attack at the Parthenon, being given the choice to begin the human race anew on one of the moons of Jupiter and, finally, hosting the last Phil Donahue Show. Harold Pierceson begins the seminar as an American "everyman" trying to feel a little better about himself, and in the process, finds the answer to rescuing the human race from impending disaster. LOST IN THE COSMOS: THE LAST SELF-HELP SEMINAR runs approximately 90 minutes and has no intermission. Walker Percy won the National Book Award for his novel, "The Moviegoer." LOST IN THE COSMOS was considered by Percy and his close friend, Shelby Foote, to be his most important work. Tom Key, along with an ensemble cast to include Derek Manson, Rosemary Newcott, and Shelly McCook, will perform. From: "Karl M. Terrell" Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:30:21 -0700 To: , Conversation: [percy-l] FW: Moviegoer Screenplay? Subject: RE: [percy-l] FW: Moviegoer Screenplay? Tom Key, with Theatrical Outfit in Atlanta, has obtained the rights to do a stage adaptation of The Moviegoer. A production was staged five or so years ago. www.theatricaloutfit.org/ Karl Terrell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: