From Nikkibar at aol.com Mon Feb 22 10:07:08 2010 From: Nikkibar at aol.com (Garic Barranger) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:07:08 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] Fwd: Walker Percy Titles - Cleanth Brooks' Copies References: <20100218142612.7x3uk16g0sg0kc88@webmail.mysuperpageshosting.com> Message-ID: I thought the faithful on the list might be interested in the enclosed. Nikki Barranger Begin forwarded message: > From: "Clouds Hill Books" > Date: February 18, 2010 1:26:12 PM CST > To: > Subject: Walker Percy Titles - Cleanth Brooks' Copies > > Dear Mr. Barranger, > > Do let me know if the following material is of interest: > > 1. (PERCY, Walker). THE FICTION OF WALKER PERCY by John Edward Hardy. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, (1987). First edition. Octavo, cloth, pp. [x], 318. Inscribed by John Edward Hardy, to author and critic Cleanth Brooks, on the front flyleaf: "27 March, 1991. For Cleanth- with esteem and affection. Edward" [Cleanth Brooks has one entry cited in the index for this book]. Top edge is moderately foxed, else a very good copy in very good dust jacket. $125 > > 2. PERCY, Walker. LANCELOT [A Novel]. New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux, (1977). First edition. Octavo, orange cloth, pp. x, 257. Author and critic Cleanth Brooks' copy, with his ink underlining and annotations throughout the book (in Brooks' customary red ink). Laid into the book is a small sheet of paper with notes in Brooks' ink holograph. A very good copy in dust jacket; pictorial jacket has light wear at top and bottom of spine with several short tears, front and rear flaps are creased, else very good. $250 > > 3. PERCY, Walker. THE LAST GENTLEMAN [A Novel]. New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux, (1966). First edition, later printing. Octavo, dark brown cloth, pp. [viii], 393. Author and critic Cleanth Brooks' copy, with his mailing label laid into the book, and with his ink underlining and annotations throughout the text. Moderate wear at tips of spine and corners, spine cocked, front and rear hinges cracked, else just a good copy. $275 > > 4. PERCY, Walker. THE LAST GENTLEMAN [A Novel]. (New York): Avon Publishers, (1978). Later printing of Avon Books paperback edition. Twelvemo, pictorial wrappers, 319 pages. Author and critic Cleanth Brooks' copy, with a few ink scorings, by Cleanth Brooks, to text. A very good copy. $65 > > 5. PERCY, Walker. LOST IN THE COSMOS. The Last Self-Help Book. New York: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, (1983). First edition, trade issue [Hobson A. 1.10] Octavo, cloth spine, paper-covered boards, pp. viii, 262. Author and critic Cleanth Brooks' copy, with his ink signature on front flyleaf, and his ink underlining and annotations to approximately 20 pages of text. Spine is dull and a bit worn, with light wear to extremities, top edge is moderately foxed, else a very good copy in dust jacket; pictorial jacket has few moderate vertical creases, else very good. $275 > > With regards, > Darren Overty > > > CLOUDS HILL BOOKS > 27 Bank Street > New York, NY 10014 > Tel: (212) 414-4432 > Fax: (212) 414-4257 > cloudshill at cloudshillbooks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dabeck at iupui.edu Mon Feb 22 11:25:03 2010 From: dabeck at iupui.edu (Beck, David A) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:25:03 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot Message-ID: <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu> Hello, I'm teaching Lancelot right now, and one of my students rightly noted some allusions to Henry IV. Does anyone know if anything has been written on this topic? (Besides some references to names, I'm not that up on Henry IV and haven't read it since grad school.) Thanks. -David From jhforest at gmail.com Mon Feb 22 11:51:29 2010 From: jhforest at gmail.com (Jim Forest) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:51:29 +0100 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu> References: <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu> Message-ID: <53c59b0c1002220851l1fa6b91fq4d07c33367e8c945@mail.gmail.com> I haven't an answer to your question, David -- I only want to note that it's good to see signs of life on the Percy List. Jim * * * On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Beck, David A wrote: > Hello, > > I'm teaching Lancelot right now, and one of my students rightly noted > some allusions to Henry IV. Does anyone know if anything has been > written on this topic? 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URL: From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Mon Feb 22 22:00:18 2010 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:00:18 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu> References: <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu> Message-ID: Like Jim, I don't know the answer, but the question has me thinking. If no one has done a Percy/Shakespeare study, it could be worth someone's time (assuming they have more time than me). There's the Hamlet motif in The Second Coming, and if we thought about it collectively there might be other cases of intertextuality or allusion in the other novels. Hmmmm . . . anyone? --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:25:03 -0500 > From: dabeck at iupui.edu > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [percy-l] lancelot > > Hello, > > I'm teaching Lancelot right now, and one of my students rightly noted > some allusions to Henry IV. Does anyone know if anything has been > written on this topic? (Besides some references to names, I'm not that > up on Henry IV and haven't read it since grad school.) > > Thanks. > -David > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dabeck at iupui.edu Mon Feb 22 22:48:59 2010 From: dabeck at iupui.edu (Beck, David A) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:48:59 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: References: <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu> Message-ID: <20100222224859.37tsqp49wwckwkcg@webmail.iu.edu> Thanks, Rhonda. Yeah, I told him (my student) there is a Hamlet theme ("old mole") in one of his books, either LG or SC. The Hamlet motif is interesting, in the father/son thing. Obviously, Hamlet's father didn't commit suicide, but Percy's did. That "old mole" reference is interesting on several levels. -David Quoting RHONDA MCDONNELL : > > Like Jim, I don't know the answer, but the question has me thinking. > If no one has done a Percy/Shakespeare study, it could be worth > someone's time (assuming they have more time than me). There's the > Hamlet motif in The Second Coming, and if we thought about it > collectively there might be other cases of intertextuality or > allusion in the other novels. Hmmmm . . . anyone? > > --Rhonda > > "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in > spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the > faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." > > Walker Percy > > > >> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:25:03 -0500 >> From: dabeck at iupui.edu >> To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org >> Subject: [percy-l] lancelot >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm teaching Lancelot right now, and one of my students rightly noted >> some allusions to Henry IV. Does anyone know if anything has been >> written on this topic? (Besides some references to names, I'm not that >> up on Henry IV and haven't read it since grad school.) >> >> Thanks. >> -David >> >> -- >> An archive of all list discussion is available at >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ >> >> Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ From wriddick at usa.net Tue Feb 23 00:19:38 2010 From: wriddick at usa.net (Wade Riddick) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:19:38 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: <20100222224859.37tsqp49wwckwkcg@webmail.iu.edu> References: <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu> Message-ID: >Thanks, Rhonda. Yeah, I told him (my student) there is a Hamlet theme >("old mole") in one of his books, either LG or SC. The Hamlet motif is >interesting, in the father/son thing. Obviously, Hamlet's father didn't >commit suicide, but Percy's did. That "old mole" reference is >interesting on several levels. Is there a statement here about the suicidal costs of vengeance? A debate Lancelot's having with himself that maybe, "I must be cruel only to be kind?" From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Tue Feb 23 23:24:43 2010 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:24:43 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: References: , <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu>, , Message-ID: Hey, Wade, can you elaborate on that? I don't remember Henry the IV at all. I did have a sudden recall of the Prince Valiant reference in MG, but that's a bit non sequitar. --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:19:38 -0600 > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > From: wriddick at usa.net > Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot > > >Thanks, Rhonda. Yeah, I told him (my student) there is a Hamlet theme > >("old mole") in one of his books, either LG or SC. The Hamlet motif is > >interesting, in the father/son thing. Obviously, Hamlet's father didn't > >commit suicide, but Percy's did. That "old mole" reference is > >interesting on several levels. > > Is there a statement here about the suicidal costs of vengeance? A debate > Lancelot's having with himself that maybe, "I must be cruel only to be > kind?" > > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wriddick at usa.net Wed Feb 24 07:48:37 2010 From: wriddick at usa.net (Wade Riddick) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:48:37 -0600 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: References: , <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu>, , Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 581 bytes Desc: not available URL: From riz_banu at hotmail.com Thu Feb 25 10:50:11 2010 From: riz_banu at hotmail.com (rizwana banu) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:20:11 +0530 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: References: , , <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu>, , , , , Message-ID: Percy enthusiasts, I am trying to figure out comparisons of Percy with other American fictionists.Who are the others who have dealt with similar themes of alienation and postmodernism? From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:24:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot Hey, Wade, can you elaborate on that? I don't remember Henry the IV at all. I did have a sudden recall of the Prince Valiant reference in MG, but that's a bit non sequitar. --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:19:38 -0600 > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > From: wriddick at usa.net > Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot > > >Thanks, Rhonda. Yeah, I told him (my student) there is a Hamlet theme > >("old mole") in one of his books, either LG or SC. The Hamlet motif is > >interesting, in the father/son thing. Obviously, Hamlet's father didn't > >commit suicide, but Percy's did. That "old mole" reference is > >interesting on several levels. > > Is there a statement here about the suicidal costs of vengeance? A debate > Lancelot's having with himself that maybe, "I must be cruel only to be > kind?" > > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karey1 at charter.net Thu Feb 25 12:45:41 2010 From: karey1 at charter.net (Karey Perkins) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:45:41 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: References: , , <20100222112503.teysewcs408goosc@webmail.iu.edu>, , , , , Message-ID: <001b01cab642$593a2500$0bae6f00$@net> Definitely Updike. Eliot of course, but is he British or American? And he is a poet. O'Connor has similar themes as Percy in lots of ways, though she is talking more about spiritual alienation and less about cultural alienation. Percy is talking about spiritual alienation, too, but O'Connor's books are more ensconced in the Southern culture I think. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of rizwana banu Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:50 AM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot Percy enthusiasts, I am trying to figure out comparisons of Percy with other American fictionists.Who are the others who have dealt with similar themes of alienation and postmodernism? _____ From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:24:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot Hey, Wade, can you elaborate on that? I don't remember Henry the IV at all. I did have a sudden recall of the Prince Valiant reference in MG, but that's a bit non sequitar. --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:19:38 -0600 > To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > From: wriddick at usa.net > Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot > > >Thanks, Rhonda. Yeah, I told him (my student) there is a Hamlet theme > >("old mole") in one of his books, either LG or SC. The Hamlet motif is > >interesting, in the father/son thing. Obviously, Hamlet's father didn't > >commit suicide, but Percy's did. That "old mole" reference is > >interesting on several levels. > > Is there a statement here about the suicidal costs of vengeance? A debate > Lancelot's having with himself that maybe, "I must be cruel only to be > kind?" > > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _____ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. _____ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gw.culbertson at gmail.com Thu Feb 25 13:08:40 2010 From: gw.culbertson at gmail.com (Graham Culbertson) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:08:40 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot Message-ID: <8fc0cea21002251008mcd02581y9a864dbeb22de217@mail.gmail.com> Rizwana, I've found John Barth's first two novels (The Floating Opera and The End of the Road) to have a great many similarities to Percy's novels. An essay that links them negatively, which I haven't actually had a chance to read, is: Bradbury, John M. "Absurd Insurrection: The Barth-Percy Affair." South Atlantic Quarterly 68 (Summer 1969): 319-29 Graham Culbertson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lowry.charles at gmail.com Thu Feb 25 13:28:55 2010 From: lowry.charles at gmail.com (Charles Lowry) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:28:55 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] lancelot In-Reply-To: <8fc0cea21002251008mcd02581y9a864dbeb22de217@mail.gmail.com> References: <8fc0cea21002251008mcd02581y9a864dbeb22de217@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am neither professional nor expert, but here are a couple thoughts. The first writer that comes to mind for me as similar to Percy is Richard Ford. It is interesting that the first two novels in his trilogy both show remarkable indebetness to The Moviegoer. In the first, The Sportswriter, the similarities are verbal and situational. In the second, Independence Day, the similarity is thematic, that alienation is addressed through the search. Regarding the O'Connor-Percy question, I am reading now a book by John D. Sykes Jr.: Flannery O'Connor, Walker Percy, and the Aesthetic of Revelation. He makes the point that Percy and O'Connor are both writing in the post-Faulkner, post-Lost Great Cause era of Southern literature, and to replace that ideal, they turn to a literature of community and religion, but turn to it in different ways. O'Connor aims toward a build-up, toward a "climactic image" intended to effect contemplation, not conversation. Percy preferred the way of search and dialogue, internal and external, to engage his readers. Thoughts from a very snowy Brooklyn. Chuck Lowry On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Graham Culbertson wrote: > Rizwana, I've found John Barth's first two novels (The Floating Opera and > The End of the Road) to have a great many similarities to Percy's novels. > An essay that links them negatively, which I haven't actually had a chance > to read, is: > > Bradbury, John M. "Absurd Insurrection: The Barth-Percy Affair." South > Atlantic Quarterly 68 (Summer 1969): 319-29 > > Graham Culbertson > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karey1 at charter.net Thu Feb 25 14:31:29 2010 From: karey1 at charter.net (Karey Perkins) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:31:29 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] Lancelot In-Reply-To: References: <8fc0cea21002251008mcd02581y9a864dbeb22de217@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003b01cab651$20e25330$62a6f990$@net> Now that I think of it, there were two really great books out in this century comparing Percy to other authors: Paul Elie's "The Life You Save May be Your Own: An American Pilgrimage" discusses Percy, O'Connor, Merton, and Dorothy Day. Lamar Nisley's "Impossible to Say: Representing Religious Mystery in Fiction by Malamud, Percy, Ozick and O'Connor" Both good. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Lowry Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:29 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot I am neither professional nor expert, but here are a couple thoughts. The first writer that comes to mind for me as similar to Percy is Richard Ford. It is interesting that the first two novels in his trilogy both show remarkable indebetness to The Moviegoer. In the first, The Sportswriter, the similarities are verbal and situational. In the second, Independence Day, the similarity is thematic, that alienation is addressed through the search. Regarding the O'Connor-Percy question, I am reading now a book by John D. Sykes Jr.: Flannery O'Connor, Walker Percy, and the Aesthetic of Revelation. He makes the point that Percy and O'Connor are both writing in the post-Faulkner, post-Lost Great Cause era of Southern literature, and to replace that ideal, they turn to a literature of community and religion, but turn to it in different ways. O'Connor aims toward a build-up, toward a "climactic image" intended to effect contemplation, not conversation. Percy preferred the way of search and dialogue, internal and external, to engage his readers. Thoughts from a very snowy Brooklyn. Chuck Lowry On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Graham Culbertson wrote: Rizwana, I've found John Barth's first two novels (The Floating Opera and The End of the Road) to have a great many similarities to Percy's novels. An essay that links them negatively, which I haven't actually had a chance to read, is: Bradbury, John M. "Absurd Insurrection: The Barth-Percy Affair." South Atlantic Quarterly 68 (Summer 1969): 319-29 Graham Culbertson -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Thu Feb 25 21:55:34 2010 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:55:34 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] Lancelot In-Reply-To: <003b01cab651$20e25330$62a6f990$@net> References: <8fc0cea21002251008mcd02581y9a864dbeb22de217@mail.gmail.com>, , <003b01cab651$20e25330$62a6f990$@net> Message-ID: I agree--particularly Elie's. Here's two more for everyone to chew on: Cormac McCarthy and Toni Morrison. I'm thinking of McCarthy's Border trilogy in the use of rotation and repetition, as well as that pervasive sense of being at loose ends in the modern world. Come to think of it, it'd be interesting to do a comparative study of John Grady Cole and Will Barrett (in The Last Gentleman, of course, since we never see John Grady as a mature man). And I know you might be thinking Toni Morrison is a stretch, but I'm thinking particularly of Song of Solomon and the whole anti-consumerism motif. The fact that you can't buy an authentic identity is something that she explores tragically, while, in The Moviegoer (and Lost in the Cosmos) Percy explores the same thing satirically. Remember Binx saying something to the effect of his armpits not stinking now that he uses the "right" deodorant? Makes me laugh just thinking about it. --Rhonda "You live in a deranged age, more deranged than usual, because in spite of great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing." Walker Percy From: karey1 at charter.net To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:31:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lancelot Now that I think of it, there were two really great books out in this century comparing Percy to other authors: Paul Elie?s ?The Life You Save May be Your Own: An American Pilgrimage? discusses Percy, O?Connor, Merton, and Dorothy Day. Lamar Nisley?s ?Impossible to Say: Representing Religious Mystery in Fiction by Malamud, Percy, Ozick and O?Connor? Both good. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Lowry Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:29 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot I am neither professional nor expert, but here are a couple thoughts. The first writer that comes to mind for me as similar to Percy is Richard Ford. It is interesting that the first two novels in his trilogy both show remarkable indebetness to The Moviegoer. In the first, The Sportswriter, the similarities are verbal and situational. In the second, Independence Day, the similarity is thematic, that alienation is addressed through the search. Regarding the O'Connor-Percy question, I am reading now a book by John D. Sykes Jr.: Flannery O'Connor, Walker Percy, and the Aesthetic of Revelation. He makes the point that Percy and O'Connor are both writing in the post-Faulkner, post-Lost Great Cause era of Southern literature, and to replace that ideal, they turn to a literature of community and religion, but turn to it in different ways. O'Connor aims toward a build-up, toward a "climactic image" intended to effect contemplation, not conversation. Percy preferred the way of search and dialogue, internal and external, to engage his readers. Thoughts from a very snowy Brooklyn. Chuck Lowry On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Graham Culbertson wrote: Rizwana, I've found John Barth's first two novels (The Floating Opera and The End of the Road) to have a great many similarities to Percy's novels. An essay that links them negatively, which I haven't actually had a chance to read, is: Bradbury, John M. "Absurd Insurrection: The Barth-Percy Affair." South Atlantic Quarterly 68 (Summer 1969): 319-29 Graham Culbertson -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riz_banu at hotmail.com Sat Feb 27 09:42:24 2010 From: riz_banu at hotmail.com (rizwana banu) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:12:24 +0530 Subject: [percy-l] Lancelot In-Reply-To: <003b01cab651$20e25330$62a6f990$@net> References: <8fc0cea21002251008mcd02581y9a864dbeb22de217@mail.gmail.com>, , <003b01cab651$20e25330$62a6f990$@net> Message-ID: Thanks for that information. From: karey1 at charter.net To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:31:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lancelot Now that I think of it, there were two really great books out in this century comparing Percy to other authors: Paul Elie?s ?The Life You Save May be Your Own: An American Pilgrimage? discusses Percy, O?Connor, Merton, and Dorothy Day. Lamar Nisley?s ?Impossible to Say: Representing Religious Mystery in Fiction by Malamud, Percy, Ozick and O?Connor? Both good. Karey From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Lowry Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:29 PM To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Subject: Re: [percy-l] lancelot I am neither professional nor expert, but here are a couple thoughts. The first writer that comes to mind for me as similar to Percy is Richard Ford. It is interesting that the first two novels in his trilogy both show remarkable indebetness to The Moviegoer. In the first, The Sportswriter, the similarities are verbal and situational. In the second, Independence Day, the similarity is thematic, that alienation is addressed through the search. Regarding the O'Connor-Percy question, I am reading now a book by John D. Sykes Jr.: Flannery O'Connor, Walker Percy, and the Aesthetic of Revelation. He makes the point that Percy and O'Connor are both writing in the post-Faulkner, post-Lost Great Cause era of Southern literature, and to replace that ideal, they turn to a literature of community and religion, but turn to it in different ways. O'Connor aims toward a build-up, toward a "climactic image" intended to effect contemplation, not conversation. Percy preferred the way of search and dialogue, internal and external, to engage his readers. Thoughts from a very snowy Brooklyn. Chuck Lowry On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Graham Culbertson wrote: Rizwana, I've found John Barth's first two novels (The Floating Opera and The End of the Road) to have a great many similarities to Percy's novels. An essay that links them negatively, which I haven't actually had a chance to read, is: Bradbury, John M. "Absurd Insurrection: The Barth-Percy Affair." South Atlantic Quarterly 68 (Summer 1969): 319-29 Graham Culbertson -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: