From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 14 14:38:25 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] thoughts Message-ID: <1339699105.7200.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello, I just finished reading Lanterns on the Levee by William Percy, Uncle Will. What an excellent book. I have been writing reams about it to Jay Tolson, my (reluctant?) new pen pal. For those who don't recognize the name, Tolson is an official biographer for Walker Percy. His book, Pilgrim in the Ruins, is also spectacular. Before I tell you why I am writing I want to point something out. If my book group had liked The Moviegoer as I did, that would have been the end of it. But they didn't, so I went on a search, found the Lists, went to Loyola, read all of Percy's novels, read Lost in the Cosmos, the biography and Uncle Will's book and am about to read the Tolson edited letters between Shelby Foote and Percy. So I guess it's good they didn't like The Moviegoer because look at all I would have missed. At the weekend at Loyola which celebrated the 50th anniversary of the publication of The Moviegoer, one of my favorite speakers talked for a half hour on that dung beetle at the beginning of the book, where Binx thinks he may be dying and asserts that if he gets out of this alive, he will begin his search. In Lanterns there is a marvelous phrase - on page 319 - a mind of a complicated being like G-d "we could no more comprehend than a beetle could comprehend our own." Now that is a very good way to put it, isn't it? But then I got to thinking of that half hour talk on the dung beetle. And I figured out that perhaps Walker Percy also like that phrase of his "Uncle Will"? and decided to use it as a kicking off point of his book. What do you think? Anyone from Loyola reading this who attended that beetle talk, I would especially appreciate hearing from you. Janet Cantor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nikkibar at aol.com Sat Jun 16 13:54:13 2012 From: nikkibar at aol.com (Garic Barranger) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:54:13 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] thoughts In-Reply-To: <1339699105.7200.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1339699105.7200.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <76E05C92-C6DA-4DAC-A094-DD17B76CDFE4@aol.com> How timely to hear from Janet Cantor. It reminds me to tell subscribers to the list that I have just published a rather lavishly illustrated book called Southern Karma. It deals chiefly with the work of my mother, Miriam Barranger but has a special chapter devoted to her (and my) friendship with Walker, Bunt and their friends. Readers of Ignatius Rising will be particularly interested in Walker's in depth relationship to Confederacy of Dunces and the stormy kerfuffles between all of us with Thelma Toole, the late mother of John Toole. Advance Copies (they have just arrived from the printer) may be ordered from Red Bluff Press, 200 North Columbia St. Covington Louisiana 70433. The price is $35.00 plus sales tax and shipping. E-mail orders are accepted by writing judywalz at yahoo.com; Judy is Vice President in charge of sales. Should you e-mail her, send your overland postal address. Should you enjoy this list, remember that it was Henry and I who set it up... As ever G.K. Barranger On Jun 14, 2012, at 1:38 PM, janet cantor wrote: > Hello, > I just finished reading Lanterns on the Levee by William Percy, Uncle Will. > What an excellent book. I have been writing reams about it to Jay Tolson, my (reluctant?) new pen pal. For those who don't recognize the name, Tolson is an official biographer for Walker Percy. His book, Pilgrim in the Ruins, is also spectacular. > Before I tell you why I am writing I want to point something out. If my book group had liked The Moviegoer as I did, that would have been the end of it. > But they didn't, so I went on a search, found the Lists, went to Loyola, read all of Percy's novels, read Lost in the Cosmos, the biography and Uncle Will's book and am about to read the Tolson edited letters between Shelby Foote and Percy. So I guess it's good they didn't like The Moviegoer because look at all I would have missed. > > At the weekend at Loyola which celebrated the 50th anniversary of the publication of The Moviegoer, one of my favorite speakers talked for a half hour on that dung beetle at the beginning of the book, where Binx thinks he may be dying and asserts that if he gets out of this alive, he will begin his search. > > In Lanterns there is a marvelous phrase - on page 319 - a mind of a complicated being like G-d "we could no more comprehend than a beetle could comprehend our own." > Now that is a very good way to put it, isn't it? > > But then I got to thinking of that half hour talk on the dung beetle. And I figured out that perhaps Walker Percy also like that phrase of his "Uncle Will" and decided to use it as a kicking off point of his book. > What do you think? > > Anyone from Loyola reading this who attended that beetle talk, I would especially appreciate hearing from you. > Janet Cantor > > -- > An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > Visit The Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > Contact the moderator: percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org (note: add @ sign when addressing email) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeriley at uark.edu Sun Jun 17 21:45:35 2012 From: jeriley at uark.edu (John E. Riley) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 01:45:35 +0000 Subject: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Janet: I think that's a pretty good connection. I don't remember that phrase from Lanterns on the Levee, but it's been a while since I read it. Good catch! A detail supporting your thesis is that Binx notices the dung beetle while lying wounded on a battlefield (supposedly it's the Korean war though the chronology doesn't quite work out within the time frame of the Moviegoer). Percy never fought in Korea, of course, but William Alexander Percy did particpate in WWI (in a relief capacity, I believe). In fact, I remember that chapter of Lanterns as containing some superb war-time writing. I think it's probably hard to overestimate Uncle Will's influence on Walker Percy, though sometimes that influence is undoubtedly a reaction AGAINST--not uncommon in "parent-child" relationships, after all. I've always loved the phrase Percy used at the end of the forward for Lanterns, something like "He [Uncle Will] was the most extraordinary man I've ever met, and I owe him a debt I can never repay." I think you get a sense of the depth of emotion Walker felt for the man. The idea of the search first came to Binx, when he notices the dung beetle, and I think the search is certainly the jumping-off point for the Moviegoer. By the way, if you're craving more Percy, don't forget his essays, which are collected in two volumes: Message in the Bottle and Signposts in a Strange Land. I would especially recommend The Man on the Train, Metaphor as Mistake, and the Delta Factor from Message. Good to hear from you! You have a knack for awakening the list from its dung beetle-like slumbers, ha ha. John Riley Reference Mullins Library University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas, USA ________________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] on behalf of percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:01 AM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. thoughts (janet cantor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l] thoughts To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: <1339699105.7200.YahooMailClassic at web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I just finished reading Lanterns on the Levee by William Percy, Uncle Will. What an excellent book. I have been writing reams about it to Jay Tolson, my (reluctant?) new pen pal. For those who don't recognize the name, Tolson is an official biographer for Walker Percy. His book, Pilgrim in the Ruins, is also spectacular. Before I tell you why I am writing I want to point something out. If my book group had liked The Moviegoer as I did, that would have been the end of it. But they didn't, so I went on a search, found the Lists, went to Loyola, read all of Percy's novels, read Lost in the Cosmos, the biography and Uncle Will's book and am about to read the Tolson edited letters between Shelby Foote and Percy. So I guess it's good they didn't like The Moviegoer because look at all I would have missed. At the weekend at Loyola which celebrated the 50th anniversary of the publication of The Moviegoer, one of my favorite speakers talked for a half hour on that dung beetle at the beginning of the book, where Binx thinks he may be dying and asserts that if he gets out of this alive, he will begin his search. In Lanterns there is a marvelous phrase - on page 319 - a mind of a complicated being like G-d "we could no more comprehend than a beetle could comprehend our own." Now that is a very good way to put it, isn't it? But then I got to thinking of that half hour talk on the dung beetle. And I figured out that perhaps Walker Percy also like that phrase of his "Uncle Will"? and decided to use it as a kicking off point of his book. What do you think? Anyone from Loyola reading this who attended that beetle talk, I would especially appreciate hearing from you. Janet Cantor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20120614/0aad2208/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Percy-L mailing list Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l End of Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 ************************************** From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 01:42:52 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1339998172.5360.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi, Uncle Will also served in battle for a time as an officer. Talking about awakening from slumbers, it strikes me funny that if my book group had liked The Moviegoer I might have missed so much. Because they didn't like it I began my search, found the Lists, went to Loyola, read all six novels, read Lost in the Cosmos, read Pilgrim in the Ruins,? read Lanterns and will soon finish the Jay Tolson edited letters between Percy and Foote. The essay books I have been avoiding because I am afraid they will be too difficult for me. Philosophy and dry, technical essays I believe I will not be able to concentrate on. Someday maybe. I am also having the pleasure of a small correspondence with Jay Tolson. Cheers all, Janet --- On Sun, 6/17/12, John E. Riley wrote: From: John E. Riley Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 9:45 PM Janet: I think that's a pretty good connection.? I don't remember that phrase from Lanterns on the Levee, but it's been a while since I read it.? Good catch! A detail supporting your thesis is that Binx notices the dung beetle while lying wounded on a battlefield (supposedly it's the Korean war though the chronology doesn't quite work out within the time frame of the Moviegoer). Percy never fought in Korea, of course, but William Alexander Percy did particpate in WWI (in a relief capacity, I believe).? In fact, I remember that chapter of Lanterns as containing some superb war-time writing.? I think it's probably hard to overestimate Uncle Will's influence on Walker Percy, though sometimes that influence is undoubtedly a reaction AGAINST--not uncommon in "parent-child" relationships, after all. I've always loved the phrase Percy used at the end of the forward for Lanterns, something like "He [Uncle Will] was the most extraordinary man I've ever met, and I owe him a debt I can never repay."? I think you get a sense of the depth of emotion Walker felt for the man. The idea of the search first came to Binx, when he notices the dung beetle, and I think the search is certainly the jumping-off point for the Moviegoer. By the way, if you're craving more Percy, don't forget his essays, which are collected in two volumes: Message in the Bottle and Signposts in a Strange Land.? I would especially recommend The Man on the Train, Metaphor as Mistake, and the Delta Factor from Message. Good to hear from you! You have a knack for awakening the list from its dung beetle-like slumbers, ha ha. John Riley Reference Mullins Library University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas, USA ________________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] on behalf of percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:01 AM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to ? ? ? ? percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ? ? ? ? http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ? ? ? ? percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at ? ? ? ? percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: ???1. thoughts (janet cantor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l] thoughts To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: ? ? ? ? <1339699105.7200.YahooMailClassic at web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I just finished reading Lanterns on the Levee by William Percy, Uncle Will. What an excellent book. I have been writing reams about it to Jay Tolson, my (reluctant?) new pen pal. For those who don't recognize the name, Tolson is an official biographer for Walker Percy. His book, Pilgrim in the Ruins, is also spectacular. Before I tell you why I am writing I want to point something out. If my book group had liked The Moviegoer as I did, that would have been the end of it. But they didn't, so I went on a search, found the Lists, went to Loyola, read all of Percy's novels, read Lost in the Cosmos, the biography and Uncle Will's book and am about to read the Tolson edited letters between Shelby Foote and Percy. So I guess it's good they didn't like The Moviegoer because look at all I would have missed. At the weekend at Loyola which celebrated the 50th anniversary of the publication of The Moviegoer, one of my favorite speakers talked for a half hour on that dung beetle at the beginning of the book, where Binx thinks he may be dying and asserts that if he gets out of this alive, he will begin his search. In Lanterns there is a marvelous phrase - on page 319 - a mind of a complicated being like G-d "we could no more comprehend than a beetle could comprehend our own." Now that is a very good way to put it, isn't it? But then I got to thinking of that half hour talk on the dung beetle. And I figured out that perhaps Walker Percy also like that phrase of his "Uncle Will"? and decided to use it as a kicking off point of his book. What do you think? Anyone from Loyola reading this who attended that beetle talk, I would especially appreciate hearing from you. Janet Cantor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 01:45:13 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1339998313.24969.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Oops, I'm so self absorbed I didn't realize I just repeated a lot from my earlier post. Sorry about that. And thanks John E. Riley for your response. Janet --- On Sun, 6/17/12, John E. Riley wrote: From: John E. Riley Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 9:45 PM Janet: I think that's a pretty good connection.? I don't remember that phrase from Lanterns on the Levee, but it's been a while since I read it.? Good catch! A detail supporting your thesis is that Binx notices the dung beetle while lying wounded on a battlefield (supposedly it's the Korean war though the chronology doesn't quite work out within the time frame of the Moviegoer). Percy never fought in Korea, of course, but William Alexander Percy did particpate in WWI (in a relief capacity, I believe).? In fact, I remember that chapter of Lanterns as containing some superb war-time writing.? I think it's probably hard to overestimate Uncle Will's influence on Walker Percy, though sometimes that influence is undoubtedly a reaction AGAINST--not uncommon in "parent-child" relationships, after all. I've always loved the phrase Percy used at the end of the forward for Lanterns, something like "He [Uncle Will] was the most extraordinary man I've ever met, and I owe him a debt I can never repay."? I think you get a sense of the depth of emotion Walker felt for the man. The idea of the search first came to Binx, when he notices the dung beetle, and I think the search is certainly the jumping-off point for the Moviegoer. By the way, if you're craving more Percy, don't forget his essays, which are collected in two volumes: Message in the Bottle and Signposts in a Strange Land.? I would especially recommend The Man on the Train, Metaphor as Mistake, and the Delta Factor from Message. Good to hear from you! You have a knack for awakening the list from its dung beetle-like slumbers, ha ha. John Riley Reference Mullins Library University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas, USA ________________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] on behalf of percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:01 AM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to ? ? ? ? percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ? ? ? ? http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ? ? ? ? percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at ? ? ? ? percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: ???1. thoughts (janet cantor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l] thoughts To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: ? ? ? ? <1339699105.7200.YahooMailClassic at web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I just finished reading Lanterns on the Levee by William Percy, Uncle Will. What an excellent book. I have been writing reams about it to Jay Tolson, my (reluctant?) new pen pal. For those who don't recognize the name, Tolson is an official biographer for Walker Percy. His book, Pilgrim in the Ruins, is also spectacular. Before I tell you why I am writing I want to point something out. If my book group had liked The Moviegoer as I did, that would have been the end of it. But they didn't, so I went on a search, found the Lists, went to Loyola, read all of Percy's novels, read Lost in the Cosmos, the biography and Uncle Will's book and am about to read the Tolson edited letters between Shelby Foote and Percy. So I guess it's good they didn't like The Moviegoer because look at all I would have missed. At the weekend at Loyola which celebrated the 50th anniversary of the publication of The Moviegoer, one of my favorite speakers talked for a half hour on that dung beetle at the beginning of the book, where Binx thinks he may be dying and asserts that if he gets out of this alive, he will begin his search. In Lanterns there is a marvelous phrase - on page 319 - a mind of a complicated being like G-d "we could no more comprehend than a beetle could comprehend our own." Now that is a very good way to put it, isn't it? But then I got to thinking of that half hour talk on the dung beetle. And I figured out that perhaps Walker Percy also like that phrase of his "Uncle Will"? and decided to use it as a kicking off point of his book. What do you think? Anyone from Loyola reading this who attended that beetle talk, I would especially appreciate hearing from you. Janet Cantor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kennenathens at frontier.com Mon Jun 18 08:12:07 2012 From: kennenathens at frontier.com (Ken Armstrong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:12:07 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <1339998313.24969.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1339998313.24969.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FDF1B17.2040106@frontier.com> Nice to see some action on the Percy list. I'd just add that the essays are not highly technical and many speak directly to the issues of "the culture wars" today. I read Message in the Bottle first, but more from Signposts struck a chord for me, maybe because I was already a convert in regard to symbolic thought. Fateful Rift: San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind in Signposts couldn't be more germane to today's debates centered around "scientism." Ken A On 6/18/2012 1:45 AM, janet cantor wrote: > Oops, I'm so self absorbed I didn't realize I just repeated a lot from > my earlier post. Sorry about that. > And thanks John E. Riley for your response. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay_thompson at rocketmail.com Mon Jun 18 13:13:58 2012 From: jay_thompson at rocketmail.com (Jay Thompson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1340039638.65792.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I have read Lost in the Cosmos, Message in a Bottle, and Signposts. Loved all three of them and I agree that Percy's insights speak pointedly to the wasteland that Post-structuralism has created and definitely speaks to the matter of science's inability to speak to genuine human experience. The fact that the masses engage in this "scientism" is disheartening; the fact that biology, semiotics, anthropology, and the rest continue to be disingenuous all the while duping multitudes of intellectuals is worse. ? Jay Thompson AP Literature, AP Language Contemporary Literature, Shakespeare Newburg High School Newburg, Missouri 65550 ________________________________ From: "percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org" To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 4 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to ??? percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at ??? percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 (Ken Armstrong) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:12:07 -0400 From: Ken Armstrong Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org:Literary and Philosophical Discussion ??? Message-ID: <4FDF1B17.2040106 at frontier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nice to see some action on the Percy list. I'd just add that the essays are not highly technical and many speak directly to the issues of "the culture wars" today. I read Message in the Bottle first, but more from Signposts struck a chord for me, maybe because I was already a convert in regard to symbolic thought. Fateful Rift: San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind in Signposts couldn't be more germane to today's debates centered around "scientism." Ken A On 6/18/2012 1:45 AM, janet cantor wrote: > Oops, I'm so self absorbed I didn't realize I just repeated a lot from > my earlier post. Sorry about that. > And thanks John E. Riley for your response. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20120618/1776bf66/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Percy-L mailing list Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l End of Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 4 ************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 15:27:48 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy In-Reply-To: <1340039638.65792.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1340047668.60724.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I am finishing my reading of the letters between Foote and Percy and laughing at the many times Percy tells Foote that he understands how Foote finds the essays difficult. Foote also loves Proust and Percy resists. I think I have more in common with Shelby Foote than with Percy, after all. One day I will try the essays, but not yet. Janet --- On Mon, 6/18/12, Jay Thompson wrote: From: Jay Thompson Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 1:13 PM I have read Lost in the Cosmos, Message in a Bottle, and Signposts. Loved all three of them and I agree that Percy's insights speak pointedly to the wasteland that Post-structuralism has created and definitely speaks to the matter of science's inability to speak to genuine human experience. The fact that the masses engage in this "scientism" is disheartening; the fact that biology, semiotics, anthropology, and the rest continue to be disingenuous all the while duping multitudes of intellectuals is worse.?Jay Thompson AP Literature, AP Language Contemporary Literature, ShakespeareNewburg High SchoolNewburg, Missouri 65550 From: "percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org" To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 4 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to ??? percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at ??? percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 (Ken Armstrong) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:12:07 -0400 From: Ken Armstrong Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org:Literary and Philosophical Discussion ??? Message-ID: <4FDF1B17.2040106 at frontier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nice to see some action on the Percy list. I'd just add that the essays are not highly technical and many speak directly to the issues of "the culture wars" today. I read Message in the Bottle first, but more from Signposts struck a chord for me, maybe because I was already a convert in regard to symbolic thought. Fateful Rift: San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind in Signposts couldn't be more germane to today's debates centered around "scientism." Ken A On 6/18/2012 1:45 AM, janet cantor wrote: > Oops, I'm so self absorbed I didn't realize I just repeated a lot from > my earlier post. Sorry about that. > And thanks John E. Riley for your response. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kennenathens at frontier.com Mon Jun 18 16:49:45 2012 From: kennenathens at frontier.com (Ken Armstrong) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:49:45 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy In-Reply-To: <1340047668.60724.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1340047668.60724.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FDF9469.3080104@frontier.com> I'm guessing he doesn't find them technically difficult, just difficult to accept in their premises and structure.. Ken A On 6/18/2012 3:27 PM, janet cantor wrote: > I am finishing my reading of the letters between Foote and Percy and > laughing at the many times Percy tells Foote that he understands how > Foote finds the essays difficult. Foote also loves Proust and Percy > resists. I think I have more in common with Shelby Foote than with > Percy, after all. > One day I will try the essays, but not yet. > Janet > > --- On *Mon, 6/18/12, Jay Thompson //* wrote: > > > From: Jay Thompson > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy > To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" > Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 1:13 PM > > > I have read Lost in the Cosmos, Message in a Bottle, and > Signposts. Loved all three of them and I agree that Percy's > insights speak pointedly to the wasteland that Post-structuralism > has created and definitely speaks to the matter of science's > inability to speak to genuine human experience. The fact that the > masses engage in this "scientism" is disheartening; the fact that > biology, semiotics, anthropology, and the rest continue to be > disingenuous all the while duping multitudes of intellectuals is > worse. > Jay Thompson > AP Literature, AP Language > Contemporary Literature, Shakespeare > Newburg High School > Newburg, Missouri 65550 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org" > > *To:* percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > *Sent:* Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM > *Subject:* Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 4 > > Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to > percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 (Ken Armstrong) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:12:07 -0400 > From: Ken Armstrong > > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 > To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org > :Literary and > Philosophical Discussion > > > Message-ID: <4FDF1B17.2040106 at frontier.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Nice to see some action on the Percy list. I'd just add that the > essays > are not highly technical and many speak directly to the issues of > "the > culture wars" today. I read Message in the Bottle first, but more > from > Signposts struck a chord for me, maybe because I was already a > convert > in regard to symbolic thought. Fateful Rift: San Andreas Fault in the > Modern Mind in Signposts couldn't be more germane to today's debates > centered around "scientism." > > Ken A > > On 6/18/2012 1:45 AM, janet cantor wrote: > > Oops, I'm so self absorbed I didn't realize I just repeated a > lot from > > my earlier post. Sorry about that. > > And thanks John E. 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URL: From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 18 16:59:33 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy In-Reply-To: <4FDF9469.3080104@frontier.com> Message-ID: <1340053173.49020.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Foote does read them eventually, but I loved that Percy keeps saying that when the essays are brought up, he knows he loses Foote. --- On Mon, 6/18/12, Ken Armstrong wrote: From: Ken Armstrong Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 4:49 PM I'm guessing he doesn't find them technically difficult, just difficult to accept in their premises and structure.. Ken A On 6/18/2012 3:27 PM, janet cantor wrote: I am finishing my reading of the letters between Foote and Percy and laughing at the many times Percy tells Foote that he understands how Foote finds the essays difficult. Foote also loves Proust and Percy resists. I think I have more in common with Shelby Foote than with Percy, after all. One day I will try the essays, but not yet. Janet --- On Mon, 6/18/12, Jay Thompson wrote: From: Jay Thompson Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 1:13 PM I have read Lost in the Cosmos, Message in a Bottle, and Signposts. Loved all three of them and I agree that Percy's insights speak pointedly to the wasteland that Post-structuralism has created and definitely speaks to the matter of science's inability to speak to genuine human experience. The fact that the masses engage in this "scientism" is disheartening; the fact that biology, semiotics, anthropology, and the rest continue to be disingenuous all the while duping multitudes of intellectuals is worse. ? Jay Thompson AP Literature, AP Language Contemporary Literature, Shakespeare Newburg High School Newburg, Missouri 65550 From: "percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org" To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 4 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to ??? percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at ??? percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 (Ken Armstrong) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:12:07 -0400 From: Ken Armstrong Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org:Literary and Philosophical Discussion ??? Message-ID: <4FDF1B17.2040106 at frontier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nice to see some action on the Percy list. I'd just add that the essays are not highly technical and many speak directly to the issues of "the culture wars" today. I read Message in the Bottle first, but more from Signposts struck a chord for me, maybe because I was already a convert in regard to symbolic thought. Fateful Rift: San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind in Signposts couldn't be more germane to today's debates centered around "scientism." 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URL: From jay_thompson at rocketmail.com Mon Jun 18 19:10:03 2012 From: jay_thompson at rocketmail.com (Jay Thompson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy In-Reply-To: <1340047668.60724.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1340039638.65792.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <1340047668.60724.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1340061003.17923.YahooMailNeo@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Janet, some of the essays are indeed, extremely difficult. I simply chose to press on, tackle what I could, wrestle with what I felt I understood, and continued to hope for enlightenment for the rest. :) What helped me to some degree with his weightier semiotic-oriented stuff is the fact that I have been reading widely in literary theory for the last ten years or so - I don't pretend to understand all of that material either! Nonetheless, I am convinced that our beloved Walker Percy was on to something quite significant in his "resurrection" (for lack of a better term) of Charles Peirce's ideas. Having said that, we can all understand this: Percy continued to assert that stability in language exists, that truth can be known, and that our search against the tides of despair and meaninglessness is worth it. A message in the bottle does indeed speak, and even Binx can find light in a dark world. ? Jay Thompson AP Literature, AP Language Contemporary Literature, Shakespeare Newburg High School Newburg, Missouri 65550 ________________________________ From: janet cantor To: Jay Thompson ; Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy I am finishing my reading of the letters between Foote and Percy and laughing at the many times Percy tells Foote that he understands how Foote finds the essays difficult. Foote also loves Proust and Percy resists. I think I have more in common with Shelby Foote than with Percy, after all. One day I will try the essays, but not yet. Janet --- On Mon, 6/18/12, Jay Thompson wrote: >From: Jay Thompson >Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy >To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" >Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 1:13 PM > > > > >I have read Lost in the Cosmos, Message in a Bottle, and Signposts. Loved all three of them and I agree that Percy's insights speak pointedly to the wasteland that Post-structuralism has created and definitely speaks to the matter of science's inability to speak to genuine human experience. The fact that the masses engage in this "scientism" is disheartening; the fact that biology, semiotics, anthropology, and the rest continue to be disingenuous all the while duping multitudes of intellectuals is worse. >? >Jay Thompson >AP Literature, AP Language >Contemporary Literature, Shakespeare >Newburg High School >Newburg, Missouri 65550 > > > > >________________________________ > From: "percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org" >To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org >Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM >Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 4 > >Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to >??? percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >??? http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >??? percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at >??? percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > >? 1. Re: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 (Ken Armstrong) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:12:07 -0400 >From: Ken Armstrong >Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1 >To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org:Literary and Philosophical Discussion >??? >Message-ID: <4FDF1B17.2040106 at frontier.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Nice to see some action on the Percy list. I'd just add that the essays >are not highly technical and many speak directly to the issues of "the >culture wars" today. I read Message in the Bottle first, but more from >Signposts struck a chord for me, maybe because I was already a convert >in regard to symbolic thought. Fateful Rift: San Andreas Fault in the >Modern Mind in Signposts couldn't be more germane to today's debates >centered around "scientism." > >Ken A > >On 6/18/2012 1:45 AM, janet cantor wrote: >> Oops, I'm so self absorbed I didn't realize I just repeated a lot from >> my earlier post. Sorry about that. >> And thanks John E. 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URL: From johnharvey at earthlink.net Wed Jun 20 10:23:49 2012 From: johnharvey at earthlink.net (John Harvey) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:23:49 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy In-Reply-To: <1340061003.17923.YahooMailNeo@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <1340039638.65792.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <1340047668.60724.YahooMailClassic@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1340061003.17923.YahooMailNeo@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FE1DCF5.9080206@earthlink.net> List: Go to the C-SPAN video library if you are interested in watching a video of Walker Percy accepting the National Endowment of the Arts Award. This talk was later published as "The Fateful Rift: The San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind" in Signposts in a Strange Land. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/assets/swf/CSPANPlayer.swf?ver=12.3.29.2&programid=159052&rand=1276861041 John From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 21 16:59:09 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy In-Reply-To: <4FE1DCF5.9080206@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1340312349.4440.YahooMailClassic@web125903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thank you so much for this. As always with Percy, you have to wait until the last minute for a sweet surprise ending. Does anyone know if Brian Lamb ever interviewed Percy on C-Span? Janet --- On Wed, 6/20/12, John Harvey wrote: From: John Harvey Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 10:23 AM List: Go to the C-SPAN video library if you are interested in watching a video of Walker Percy accepting the National Endowment of the Arts Award. This talk was later published as "The Fateful Rift: The San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind" in Signposts in a Strange Land. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/assets/swf/CSPANPlayer.swf?ver=12.3.29.2&programid=159052&rand=1276861041 John -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit The Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy Contact the moderator: percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org (note: add @ sign when addressing email) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 21 17:00:55 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy Message-ID: <1340312455.16721.YahooMailClassic@web125905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: "Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion" Date: Thursday, June 21, 2012, 4:59 PM Thank you so much for this. As always with Percy, you have to wait until the last minute for a sweet surprise ending. Does anyone know if Brian Lamb ever interviewed Percy on C-Span? Janet --- On Wed, 6/20/12, John Harvey wrote: From: John Harvey Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 10:23 AM List: Go to the C-SPAN video library if you are interested in watching a video of Walker Percy accepting the National Endowment of the Arts Award. This talk was later published as "The Fateful Rift: The San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind" in Signposts in a Strange Land. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/assets/swf/CSPANPlayer.swf?ver=12.3.29.2&programid=159052&rand=1276861041 John -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeriley at uark.edu Fri Jun 22 17:28:54 2012 From: jeriley at uark.edu (John E. Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:28:54 +0000 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy Video Message-ID: Janet: I don't see any interviews that Brian Lamb did with Percy in C-Span's video library. I did like Lamb's Booknotes interviews, though I think he mainly interviewed nonfiction authors. He had certain questions that he loved to ask and probably would have asked Percy: Do you write in pen or pencil? What kind of pen (or pencil?). Do you prefer lined notebook paper or a blank page? Do you write at a desk, or somewhere else? At a certain time of day? How do you know when you're done writing for the day? He seemed fascinated not so much by the writing process as the process of writing (the routine). I found a short video of Percy as a guest, along with Eudora Welty, on William Buckley's Firing Line show in 1972. The entire hour-long show is available for purchase from Amazon. It looks like Percy's appearance on this clip is fairly brief. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LT-pZlFSA (William Buckley talks about the Southern imagination with Eudora Welty and Walker Percy--5 minute video clip). John Riley Reference Mullins Library University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas, USA ________________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] on behalf of percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:00 AM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 8 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy (janet cantor) 2. Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy (janet cantor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: "Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion" Message-ID: <1340312349.4440.YahooMailClassic at web125903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you so much for this. As always with Percy, you have to wait until the last minute for a sweet surprise ending. Does anyone know if Brian Lamb ever interviewed Percy on C-Span? Janet --- On Wed, 6/20/12, John Harvey wrote: From: John Harvey Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 10:23 AM List: Go to the C-SPAN video library if you are interested in watching a video of Walker Percy accepting the National Endowment of the Arts Award. This talk was later published as "The Fateful Rift: The San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind" in Signposts in a Strange Land. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/assets/swf/CSPANPlayer.swf?ver=12.3.29.2&programid=159052&rand=1276861041 John -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit The Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy Contact the moderator: percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org (note: add @ sign when addressing email) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20120621/efea7c19/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:00:55 -0700 (PDT) From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: <1340312455.16721.YahooMailClassic at web125905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: "Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion" Date: Thursday, June 21, 2012, 4:59 PM Thank you so much for this. As always with Percy, you have to wait until the last minute for a sweet surprise ending. Does anyone know if Brian Lamb ever interviewed Percy on C-Span? Janet --- On Wed, 6/20/12, John Harvey wrote: From: John Harvey Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 10:23 AM List: Go to the C-SPAN video library if you are interested in watching a video of Walker Percy accepting the National Endowment of the Arts Award. This talk was later published as "The Fateful Rift: The San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind" in Signposts in a Strange Land. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/assets/swf/CSPANPlayer.swf?ver=12.3.29.2&programid=159052&rand=1276861041 John -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20120621/7da1e58c/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Percy-L mailing list Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l End of Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 8 ************************************** From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 22 23:28:27 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1340422107.32297.YahooMailClassic@web125906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In this excerpt Buckley never gets to Percy and he gets the date of the NBA wrong and the Title of Love in the Ruins wrong. Darn I wish I could see the whole thing. There is a long Lamb and Foote thing, three hours. I may visit with it because Foote talks about his long friendship with Percy. Janet --- On Fri, 6/22/12, John E. Riley wrote: From: John E. Riley Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy Video To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 5:28 PM Janet: I don't see any interviews that Brian Lamb did with Percy in C-Span's video library.? I did like Lamb's Booknotes interviews, though I think he mainly interviewed nonfiction authors.? He had certain questions that he loved to ask and probably would have asked Percy:? Do you write in pen or pencil? What kind of pen (or pencil?). Do you prefer lined notebook paper or a blank page? Do you write at a desk, or somewhere else? At a certain time of day? How do you know when you're done writing for the day?? He seemed fascinated not so much by the writing process as the process of writing (the routine). I found a short video of Percy as a guest, along with Eudora Welty, on William Buckley's Firing Line show in 1972. The entire hour-long show is available for purchase from Amazon. It looks like Percy's appearance on this clip is fairly brief. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LT-pZlFSA? (William Buckley talks about the Southern imagination with Eudora Welty and Walker Percy--5 minute video clip). John Riley Reference Mullins Library University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas, USA ________________________________________ From: percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] on behalf of percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org [percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:00 AM To: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Percy-L Digest, Vol 93, Issue 8 Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to ? ? ? ? percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ? ? ? ? http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ? ? ? ? percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at ? ? ? ? percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." Today's Topics: ???1.? Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy (janet cantor) ???2.???Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy (janet cantor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: janet cantor Subject: [percy-l]? Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: "Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion" ? ? ? ? Message-ID: ? ? ? ? <1340312349.4440.YahooMailClassic at web125903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you so much for this. As always with Percy, you have to wait until the last minute for a sweet surprise ending. Does anyone know if Brian Lamb ever interviewed Percy on C-Span? Janet --- On Wed, 6/20/12, John Harvey wrote: From: John Harvey Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 10:23 AM List: Go to the C-SPAN video library if you are interested in watching a video of Walker Percy accepting the National Endowment of the Arts Award. This talk was later published as "The Fateful Rift: The San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind" in Signposts in a Strange Land. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/assets/swf/CSPANPlayer.swf?ver=12.3.29.2&programid=159052&rand=1276861041 John -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ Visit The Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy Contact the moderator: percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org (note: add @ sign when addressing email) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Janet --- On Wed, 6/20/12, John Harvey wrote: From: John Harvey Subject: Re: [percy-l] Scientism, Symbolic Thought, and Percy To: Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 10:23 AM List: Go to the C-SPAN video library if you are interested in watching a video of Walker Percy accepting the National Endowment of the Arts Award. This talk was later published as "The Fateful Rift: The San Andreas Fault in the Modern Mind" in Signposts in a Strange Land. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/assets/swf/CSPANPlayer.swf?ver=12.3.29.2&programid=159052&rand=1276861041 John -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From janetcantor37 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 23 01:41:12 2012 From: janetcantor37 at yahoo.com (janet cantor) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 22:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [percy-l] a remarkable video Message-ID: <1340430072.52486.YahooMailClassic@web125906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In Depth with Shelby Foote - C-SPAN Video Library I told myself I was going to simply scan parts of this, but I wound up listening to most of it because it was so fascinating. Foote's voice is so soothing. His command of his knowledge is great and his ability to speak off the cuff and without faltering is spectacular. Foote mentions Percy at 12 and a half minutes, at 19 and a half minutes, at Two hours and 24 minutes, before? two hours and 47 minutes, and after two hours and 49 minutes. I think I'm right about those times. But if you have the three hours, you could do a lot worse than spend them on this video. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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