From wppdirector at gmail.com Sun Apr 14 11:26:58 2019 From: wppdirector at gmail.com (Henry P. Mills) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 11:26:58 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] New Member Welcome References: Message-ID: <918EE82F-0C8B-4810-95DE-E28D609B6C3F@gmail.com> Dear Percy-L: This message from new member Tom Gollier was misaddressed to the list. Just as a reminder, Percy-L submissions should go to: . Let us welcome Tom! Henry Mills Percy-L Administrator ----- From: Thomas Gollier Subject: Re: Welcome to Percy-L Date: April 7, 2019 at 11:18:33 PM EDT To: "Henry P. Mills" Cc: Percy List Henry, Thank you for your welcome. I ran into Percy a number of years ago when I was on the Peirce list, and I remember being impressed with the Trobriand Islanders and their pocket knives as being what philosophy, and science, should be all about. Now reading Wittgenstein and trying to correlate him with Peirce, I thought of Percy again, and have been working through some of his articles. To me he seems just as precise in his thinking as Peirce or Wittgenstein, but much less technical and much more down-to-earth in what he has to say about it. The list does seem quiet, but I'm hoping it will offer some "intersubjective" support for these efforts. Thanks again, Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lauren.stacy.berdy at gmail.com Sun Apr 14 14:10:41 2019 From: lauren.stacy.berdy at gmail.com (Lauren Berdy) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:10:41 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <918EE82F-0C8B-4810-95DE-E28D609B6C3F@gmail.com> References: <918EE82F-0C8B-4810-95DE-E28D609B6C3F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <138E6F67-6532-4D15-9AFA-5F047F1AE5A9@gmail.com> Hi I am glad you stated this new thread keep these words of Dr Percy?s above my desk ? once the final break is made between reality and language Arguments generate their own Force and lay out their own logical Rules? For this reader anyway as I get older And reread The Doctor it comes to Me so readily that he like Lawrence Before him pointed us back to this Earth, this life, this being What is it? And all the while summing up words That summon up the greatest of our human abilities The merging of seeing with knowing He was a seer and he knew the intellect is a collector. The meddling intellect mangles things Quite badly Look At Sutter! Thank you Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Henry P. Mills wrote: > > Dear Percy-L: > This message from new member Tom Gollier was misaddressed to the list. Just as a reminder, Percy-L submissions should go to: . Let us welcome Tom! > > Henry Mills > Percy-L Administrator > > ----- > From: Thomas Gollier > Subject: Re: Welcome to Percy-L > Date: April 7, 2019 at 11:18:33 PM EDT > To: "Henry P. Mills" > Cc: Percy List > > Henry, > > Thank you for your welcome. > > I ran into Percy a number of years ago when I was on the Peirce list, and I remember being impressed with the Trobriand Islanders and their pocket knives as being what philosophy, and science, should be all about. Now reading Wittgenstein and trying to correlate him with Peirce, I thought of Percy again, and have been working through some of his articles. To me he seems just as precise in his thinking as Peirce or Wittgenstein, but much less technical and much more down-to-earth in what he has to say about it. > > The list does seem quiet, but I'm hoping it will offer some "intersubjective" support for these efforts. > > Thanks again, > Tom > > > > > > > > > * Percy-L Discussion Archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > * Manage Your Membership: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > * Contact the Moderator: percy-l-owner (at) lists.ibiblio.org > > * Visit The Walker Percy Project: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tgollier at gmail.com Wed Apr 17 13:51:27 2019 From: tgollier at gmail.com (Thomas Gollier) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:51:27 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: <138E6F67-6532-4D15-9AFA-5F047F1AE5A9@gmail.com> References: <918EE82F-0C8B-4810-95DE-E28D609B6C3F@gmail.com> <138E6F67-6532-4D15-9AFA-5F047F1AE5A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Lauren, It certainly is a quiet list, but thank you for your welcome. I also enjoyed your quote: ?Once the final break is made between reality and language Arguments generate their own Force and lay out their own logical Rules.? from a text I'm not familiar with, yet. Personally, though, I think Percy is being too nice. When denotation is taken as some kind of primary connotation, taking the place of the object itself, and to which other connotations can then be attached, we don't have "arguments" or "rules" but just what I've seen called "cascading connotations." A flow of images in what Hegel called "picture-thinking." This is, however, where I find Percy most interesting. Thanks, Tom On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:10 AM Lauren Berdy wrote: > Hi > I am glad you stated this new thread > > keep these words of Dr Percy?s above my desk > > ? once the final break is made between reality and language > Arguments generate their own > Force and lay out their own logical > Rules? > > For this reader anyway as I get older > And reread The Doctor it comes to > Me so readily that he like Lawrence > Before him pointed us back to this > Earth, this life, this being > What is it? > And all the while summing up words > That summon up the greatest of our human abilities > The merging of seeing with knowing > He was a seer and he knew the intellect is a collector. > The meddling intellect mangles things > Quite badly > Look At Sutter! > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Henry P. Mills > wrote: > > Dear Percy-L: > This message from new member Tom Gollier was misaddressed to the list. > Just as a reminder, Percy-L submissions should go to: < > percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org>. Let us welcome Tom! > > Henry Mills > Percy-L Administrator > > ----- > From: Thomas Gollier > Subject: Re: Welcome to Percy-L > Date: April 7, 2019 at 11:18:33 PM EDT > To: "Henry P. Mills" > Cc: Percy List > > Henry, > > Thank you for your welcome. > > I ran into Percy a number of years ago when I was on the Peirce list, and > I remember being impressed with the Trobriand Islanders and their pocket > knives as being what philosophy, and science, should be all about. Now > reading Wittgenstein and trying to correlate him with Peirce, I thought of > Percy again, and have been working through some of his articles. To me he > seems just as precise in his thinking as Peirce or Wittgenstein, but much > less technical and much more down-to-earth in what he has to say about it. > > The list does seem quiet, but I'm hoping it will offer some > "intersubjective" support for these efforts. > > Thanks again, > Tom > > > > > > > > > * Percy-L Discussion Archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > * Manage Your Membership: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > * Contact the Moderator: percy-l-owner (at) lists.ibiblio.org > > * Visit The Walker Percy Project: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > * Percy-L Discussion Archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > * Manage Your Membership: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > * Contact the Moderator: percy-l-owner (at) lists.ibiblio.org > > * Visit The Walker Percy Project: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com Wed Apr 17 23:47:07 2019 From: rhonda_mcdonnell at msn.com (RHONDA MCDONNELL) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 03:47:07 +0000 Subject: [percy-l] New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: References: <918EE82F-0C8B-4810-95DE-E28D609B6C3F@gmail.com> <138E6F67-6532-4D15-9AFA-5F047F1AE5A9@gmail.com>, Message-ID: Hi Tom and welcome to the Percy-L, We do wake up occasionally, if given enough motivation, but I suppose many of us aren?t as young as we once were! SAMLA (The South Atlantic Modern Language Association) will have a session on Percy and language. Maybe you could present something connecting Percy, Peirce, and Wittgenstein? I?m pretty sure proposals are still being accepted. There will be some Percy-Peirce folks in attendance. Percy?s philosophy continues to gain traction. I, for one, would be very interested in hearing more of your thoughts on Percy-Peirce-Wittgenstein. Rhonda Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Gollier > wrote: Lauren, It certainly is a quiet list, but thank you for your welcome. I also enjoyed your quote: ?Once the final break is made between reality and language Arguments generate their own Force and lay out their own logical Rules.? from a text I'm not familiar with, yet. Personally, though, I think Percy is being too nice. When denotation is taken as some kind of primary connotation, taking the place of the object itself, and to which other connotations can then be attached, we don't have "arguments" or "rules" but just what I've seen called "cascading connotations." A flow of images in what Hegel called "picture-thinking." This is, however, where I find Percy most interesting. Thanks, Tom On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:10 AM Lauren Berdy > wrote: Hi I am glad you stated this new thread keep these words of Dr Percy?s above my desk ? once the final break is made between reality and language Arguments generate their own Force and lay out their own logical Rules? For this reader anyway as I get older And reread The Doctor it comes to Me so readily that he like Lawrence Before him pointed us back to this Earth, this life, this being What is it? And all the while summing up words That summon up the greatest of our human abilities The merging of seeing with knowing He was a seer and he knew the intellect is a collector. The meddling intellect mangles things Quite badly Look At Sutter! Thank you Sent from my iPhone On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Henry P. Mills > wrote: Dear Percy-L: This message from new member Tom Gollier was misaddressed to the list. Just as a reminder, Percy-L submissions should go to: >. Let us welcome Tom! Henry Mills Percy-L Administrator ----- From: Thomas Gollier > Subject: Re: Welcome to Percy-L Date: April 7, 2019 at 11:18:33 PM EDT To: "Henry P. Mills" > Cc: Percy List > Henry, Thank you for your welcome. I ran into Percy a number of years ago when I was on the Peirce list, and I remember being impressed with the Trobriand Islanders and their pocket knives as being what philosophy, and science, should be all about. Now reading Wittgenstein and trying to correlate him with Peirce, I thought of Percy again, and have been working through some of his articles. To me he seems just as precise in his thinking as Peirce or Wittgenstein, but much less technical and much more down-to-earth in what he has to say about it. The list does seem quiet, but I'm hoping it will offer some "intersubjective" support for these efforts. 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URL: From tgollier at gmail.com Sun Apr 21 11:56:33 2019 From: tgollier at gmail.com (Thomas Gollier) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 08:56:33 -0700 Subject: [percy-l] New Member Welcome In-Reply-To: References: <918EE82F-0C8B-4810-95DE-E28D609B6C3F@gmail.com> <138E6F67-6532-4D15-9AFA-5F047F1AE5A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Rhonda, Thanks for the welcome. I can't say that I'm ready to make any pronouncements regarding Percy-Peirce-Wittgenstein, but I have been playing them off against each other when it comes to Percy's distinction between "symbols" and "signs." His distinction seem to correspond with Peirce's distinction between hypostatic abstractions (conceptualizing something apart from its environment) and precisive abstraction (separating something off in connection with its environment) which, in turn seems to correspond with Wittgenstein making the difference between saying "I know that's a tree" and "that's a tree" ('On Certainty', ?585). The idea with Peirce seems to be that the use of signs and precisive abstraction are more primitive than the use of symbols and hypostatic abstractions. He writes in one place: "Without precisive abstraction man would not be man; but I can well believe, ? indeed, I do think it probable, ? that a large fraction of the races of mankind, by no means necessarily very low in the arts, are entirely devoid of the power of subjectal [hypostatic] abstraction." ['New Elements if Mathematics' 3.916-18] Percy, on the other hand, says somewhere that all languages are symbolic. And, if we look at Stuart Dreyfus' description of his experiences with chess [in Mind Over Machine, p. 25]: [image: image.png] A precisive abstraction ? or in Percy's terminology a functional use of signs that may be verbalized or not ? seems to be at the pinnacle of human accomplishment. Although, I have to admit, I'm kind of like Stuart and don't like knowing "that's a tree" without being able to say "I know that's a tree." Sorry to be so long-winded (myself and with the quotes), but as you can probably see, I find the com- parisons between these three philosophers fascinating. Tom On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 8:20 AM RHONDA MCDONNELL wrote: > Hi Tom and welcome to the Percy-L, > > We do wake up occasionally, if given enough motivation, but I suppose many > of us aren?t as young as we once were! > > SAMLA (The South Atlantic Modern Language Association) will have a session > on Percy and language. Maybe you could present something connecting Percy, > Peirce, and Wittgenstein? I?m pretty sure proposals are still being > accepted. There will be some Percy-Peirce folks in attendance. > > Percy?s philosophy continues to gain traction. I, for one, would be very > interested in hearing more of your thoughts on Percy-Peirce-Wittgenstein. > > Rhonda > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 17, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Gollier wrote: > > Lauren, > > It certainly is a quiet list, but thank you for your welcome. I also > enjoyed your quote: > > ?Once the final break is made between reality and language Arguments > generate > their own Force and lay out their own logical Rules.? > > from a text I'm not familiar with, yet. Personally, though, I think Percy > is being too nice. > When denotation is taken as some kind of primary connotation, taking the > place of the > object itself, and to which other connotations can then be attached, we > don't have > "arguments" or "rules" but just what I've seen called "cascading > connotations." A flow > of images in what Hegel called "picture-thinking." > > This is, however, where I find Percy most interesting. > > Thanks, > Tom > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:10 AM Lauren Berdy < > lauren.stacy.berdy at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi >> I am glad you stated this new thread >> >> keep these words of Dr Percy?s above my desk >> >> ? once the final break is made between reality and language >> Arguments generate their own >> Force and lay out their own logical >> Rules? >> >> For this reader anyway as I get older >> And reread The Doctor it comes to >> Me so readily that he like Lawrence >> Before him pointed us back to this >> Earth, this life, this being >> What is it? >> And all the while summing up words >> That summon up the greatest of our human abilities >> The merging of seeing with knowing >> He was a seer and he knew the intellect is a collector. >> The meddling intellect mangles things >> Quite badly >> Look At Sutter! >> Thank you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Henry P. Mills >> wrote: >> >> Dear Percy-L: >> This message from new member Tom Gollier was misaddressed to the list. >> Just as a reminder, Percy-L submissions should go to: < >> percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org>. Let us welcome Tom! >> >> Henry Mills >> Percy-L Administrator >> >> ----- >> From: Thomas Gollier >> Subject: Re: Welcome to Percy-L >> Date: April 7, 2019 at 11:18:33 PM EDT >> To: "Henry P. Mills" >> Cc: Percy List >> >> Henry, >> >> Thank you for your welcome. >> >> I ran into Percy a number of years ago when I was on the Peirce list, and >> I remember being impressed with the Trobriand Islanders and their pocket >> knives as being what philosophy, and science, should be all about. Now >> reading Wittgenstein and trying to correlate him with Peirce, I thought of >> Percy again, and have been working through some of his articles. To me he >> seems just as precise in his thinking as Peirce or Wittgenstein, but much >> less technical and much more down-to-earth in what he has to say about it. >> >> The list does seem quiet, but I'm hoping it will offer some >> "intersubjective" support for these efforts. >> >> Thanks again, >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * Percy-L Discussion Archives: >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ >> >> * Manage Your Membership: >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l >> >> * Contact the Moderator: percy-l-owner (at) lists.ibiblio.org >> >> * Visit The Walker Percy Project: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >> >> * Percy-L Discussion Archives: >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ >> >> * Manage Your Membership: >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l >> >> * Contact the Moderator: percy-l-owner (at) lists.ibiblio.org >> >> * Visit The Walker Percy Project: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy >> > * Percy-L Discussion Archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > * Manage Your Membership: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > * Contact the Moderator: percy-l-owner (at) lists.ibiblio.org > > * Visit The Walker Percy Project: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > * Percy-L Discussion Archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > * Manage Your Membership: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > * Contact the Moderator: percy-l-owner (at) lists.ibiblio.org > > * Visit The Walker Percy Project: http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Henry Mills Percy-L Administrator ----- "Six Weeks Till Walker Percy Weekend 2019" https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/walker-percy-weekend-2019-2/ The American Conservative By ROD DREHER ? April 16, 2019 --- ABOUT ST. FRANCISVILLE Also, here is a link to the visitor center page of St. Francisville, a historic town of ca. 1700 located on the Mississippi River just upriver from Baton Rouge, LA, and south of famed Natchez, MS. http://www.stfrancisville.us/ DIRECT YOUTUBE LINK TO VIDEO Note: The direct YouTube video link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=OXWCOR7Dp6Q -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael_serafin at hotmail.com Thu Apr 25 18:29:58 2019 From: michael_serafin at hotmail.com (Michael Serafin) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 22:29:58 +0000 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy Weekend Message-ID: I would love to attend this, but, cannot afford to. Anyone here going?: http://www.walkerpercyweekend.org. 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Please send 300-word abstracts (or any questions) by May 15, 2019, to Dr. Karey Perkins, Institute for Studies in Pragmaticism, Texas Tech University, at kareyperkins at gmail.com . Please also include a brief bio and any A/V requirements in your abstract. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: