[percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 162, Issue 15

Marcus Smith marcus at loyno.edu
Fri Aug 7 12:11:43 EDT 2020


Yes to Lauren Berdy!

“

Life is short arguments are silly.
Opinions are cul de sacs.
Dr Percy was flesh and blood
And chance gave him a vibrant
Sensitivity. fresh thrilling and
Original.”

Chance, yes.  And choice.  Thanks!

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>    1. Re: Pluralism or community? A response to Wade Riddick.
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> Dr Percy wrote of our life motions while alive upon this Revolving axis.
>
> Any writer However wild grotesque
> Or heavy handed who makes our
> Daily sunset more of a surprise to us
> And our lunar crescent more a miracle ant writer who rouses our
> Sense of the vast tragedy of generations any writer who
> Makes us feel the earth Devine
> Presence and the night to almost
> Be a palpable god wins our
> Whole hearted respect.
>
> What Dr Percy asked of his readers
> Is to see the great throb of all
> Life?s engines down here.
>
> Each of us convoluted  dark mysteries moving along roads
> In the outskirts. Perhaps Catholicism
> Provided a path?
>
> Life is short arguments are silly.
> Opinions are cul de sacs.
> Dr Percy was flesh and blood
> And chance gave him a vibrant
> Sensitivity. fresh thrilling and
> Original.
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 7, 2020, at 6:36 AM, janetcantor37--- via Percy-L <
> percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > You opened so well. Federalist #10 is my favorite of the Federalist
> Papers.
> > Then you fell into conclusions that do not match mine.
> >
> > I agree that pluralism as you describe it - belief in the ascendancy of
> our attachment to factions instead of love of the whole, patriotism, love
> of country - is not good.
> >
> > The trouble is when I look up the definition of pluralism, it is the
> opposite of how you describe it.
> >
> > So I am going to tell you how I read #10:
> >
> > Our country needed a strong central symbol, the flag, a president, so
> that our individual interests (factions) could never get big enough to
> disrupt or bring down the whole. If we wanted to be a "country", able to
> defend itself against outside mischief from other countries, we had to be
> unified. Pluralism entailed allowing individuals as well as states and
> individual interests to be protected from meddling or destruction, as long
> as those individuals did not break the country's laws.
> >
> > The colonies were worried that they had just left the King and wanted no
> parts of a president. So #10 tried to explain all about the protections we
> would put in place so individual interests and minorities would not fall
> prey  to a new kind of tyranny. They would put in place protections of each
> state by having representations in a Senate where every colony - eventually
> state - would get the same representation no matter how small it was
> compared to the others. They would put in place a Court to interpret the
> law. And the constant tension among all of these entities would prevent a
> president from having too much power and individuals or groups with they
> interest from inciting confusions to bring down the whole, the U.S.
> > The central power in the hands of a president having to contend with
> these safeguards against its controlling all the power would help keep all
> individual Americans safe.
> > The larger the country, the more diverse the separate states, the more
> difficult it would be for a dictatorship to arise.
> > The colonies became convinced and stopped fearing having a president.
> >
> >
> >  Again, you were doing so well, It is true that leftists of recent
> history love chopping us up into groups with grievances so they can better
> control us.
> >
> > Where you went astray is when you began describing the "seething
> resentment " of the right and its origins.
> >
> > There is no resentment in Republicans and other rightists here from
> having Civil Rights legislation shoved down "their throats".
> > It was the Republicans throughout our history who instigated and helped
> bring about the end of slavery against the Democrats. It was the right
> which fought for integration.
> > The KKK, those who fought to preserve slavery and prevent integration of
> schools were always in the Democrat Party.
> > LBJ got lots of attention when he passed the Civil Rights act, but
> without the votes of Republicans in Congress, it would never have come to
> fruition.
> >
> > Tax cuts were never designed to drive up the deficit, but to spur growth
> of the economy which would bring more money into government, not less. When
> JFK passed his tax cuts, the economy got a big push and the government made
> more money.
> >
> > Yes, both sides promise heaven on earth. But if you look at the history
> from 1976 until today it is a series of democrats pulling the country away
> from capitalism and Republicans correcting their mistakes and fixing the
> country and then the sliding again when democrats win again.
> >  Taking power away from the central government to give us goodies or
> manage things is a good thing.
> >  Reagan fixed Carter's disastrous economy.
> > Under Clinton we were headed back to catastrophe again until the 1994
> Republican congress came in and fixed everything again, and then Clinton
> took credit for it, and that's okay, because at least he didn't get in the
> way. And I don't want to ruffle feathers, but recently the pattern began
> again.
> > And until the plague hit us, we were coasting along in the best economy
> ever.
> >
> > Too much federal spending is terrible, I agree and both sides are guilty
> of that. Dismantling private property protection is lethally bad. We agree
> there. Oligarchs stealing from private citizens is a disease, yes. Taking
> power from individuals is dangerous. But we get more of these bad things
> every time we elect Democrats and this time the contrast couldn't be
> starker.
> >
> > I don't know about the Koch Brothers, but George Soros and the teachers
> unions have them beat when it comes to stealing power from individuals and
> placing it in the hands of government operators.
> >
> > Wages were going up, unemployment was virtually disappearing, and
> minorities of all kinds benefitted from these things the most. And then the
> pandemic struck and we were told were have to close down the economy.
> > If this hadn't happened, we would have been in excellent economic shape.
> >
> > The chaos of now is a left wing phenomenon. These destructive mobs are
> avowed Marxists by their own definition. the graffiti and bringing down of
> statues and buildings and chaos and murder is all a left wing phenomenon
> these days - and BTW, occurring in cities run by progressive democrats.
> >
> > As for the left abandoning claims on material wealth and economic
> justice, where do you see that? It is in the Democrat party where you find
> the most rich who came into government with modest savings and left multi
> millionaires.
> >
> > Hillsdale College, which I would describe as closer to conservatism than
> liberalism as defined these days, does not deconstruct, does not elevate
> personal revelation above law or enable will to power movement. Hillsdale
> encourages individual responsibility.
> >  Lovers of safe spaces where nobody has to be overruled is a leftist
> phenomenon.
> >
> > Where are you finding in your George Zimmerman narrative that those
> three points you name are being forgotten by the Right? I call myself a
> rightist and those points seem just fine to me.
> >
> > Look how easy it is for two sides to see the same facts and come to
> completely different readings of what is going on.
> >
> > Of course, the big question is what would Percy make of it all these
> days?
> > I am guessing he would hate what anarchist Marxists are doing to our
> cities, and attempting to do to our history, and our culture. We all
> should. I know that Percy would despair that things are not better. And I
> suspect he might find it very difficult to write those crazy fun house
> novels of his with their gorgeous endings.
> >
> > I suggest that each of us should settle down and set aside time to read
> the beautiful book by Wilfred McClay, Land of Hope. It clears up a lot of
> the confusion between Wade Riddick and me. And, borrowing from Ariel in The
> Tempest, it is so inspiring, it will make any reader cry if he is human.
> >
> > Janet Cantor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:47 AM, Wade Riddick
> > <wriddick at usa.net> wrote:
> > What many people fail to understand is that both the Knotheads and the
> > NOT-heads (i.e., "cancel culture") spring from the same toxic stew of
> sins:
> > pluralism.
> >
> > Pluralism is the belief that we have rights not as citizens of countries
> but
> > through the groups we belong to - race, gender, etc.  The pluralists
> think
> > democracy is useless and unless we bind together into our "group" we
> can't be
> > represented.  Leaving the group for another or disagreeing with your
> assigned
> > "interest" is the deepest betrayal and provokes a backlash imminently
> Freudian
> > in its ferocity.  I haven't seen anything like it since I argued with the
> > Communist Party cult remnants in graduate school about the value of
> money.
> > They don't accept that "interests" cut across these boundaries.  They
> don't
> > want to see, for instance, that women have an interest in men graduating
> from
> > college so they can have marriageable mates.  They're an extension of the
> > Zuckerberg computerization of our lives that wants to chop us up into
> > interests so they can monetize us when we connect that way.
> >
> > NOT-heads aren't "almost angry" at the Constitution; they're in outright
> > contempt of it because the founders were explicitly against this form of
> > thinking.  In Federalist Paper #10, James Madison warns that giving
> organized
> > groups of people the same rights as actual individual citizens will
> destroy
> > real rights for those citizens and enable factionalism.  This type of
> group
> > behavior has to be controlled or it will destroy the community of
> democracy.
> >
> > The knotheads are simply a different side of that tribalism - the
> Confederacy
> > tribe.  This other great enemy of democracy has been engaged in its own
> long
> > war against federalism going back to the days of the first Confederacy.
> The
> > anger you see on the "right" is seething resentment from having civil
> rights
> > legislation shoved down their throats.  Since the '70s, the Republican
> Party
> > has been fueled by vendetta Dixiecrats fishing for ways to make the
> Federal
> > government fail - first with Nixon's failed budget impoundment, then
> with tax
> > cuts they hoped would drive up the deficit so high one day they could
> use it
> > as an excuse to gut spending.  ("We're finally bankrupt.  Yay!")  But
> every
> > escalating disaster caused by their sabotage of government action - 9/11,
> > credit default swap implosions, Hurricane Katerina, S&L crises - only
> > increased demand for government action - because, as you see today,
> there's no
> > other central actor in America that can handle crises of this magnitude.
> >
> > These two sides resemble one another because racism - tribal revenge -
> is a
> > communicable disease, quickly mutualizing contempt when unchecked.
> Social
> > media has brought us into one another's lives like never before and many
> of us
> > can't stand what we see. (Maybe better digital fences would make better
> > digital neighbors.)  Contempt breeds contempt and without tolerance for
> one
> > another, democratic compromise is impossible and we can't govern
> ourselves -
> > which suits the short-term interests of the oligarchs just fine.  They
> need to
> > dismantle property protections (i.e., the justice system), if they're
> going to
> > steal from us.
> >
> > What does this have to do with anything?
> >
> > When you leave groups on their own to organize, those with the most money
> > oraganize the best.  Sick people are probably the most important group
> in the
> > country because when you become sick, you lose your autonomy and become
> > dependent upon others.  Sick people also have the least influence on the
> > political system because all our time and money is tied up in being
> sick.
> > Ditto for groups like the poor and unemployed - because you need
> resources to
> > organize yourselves.  Some interests can't organize themselves like
> this.
> > That's the function of government - to organize and address the concerns
> of
> > all citizens.
> >
> > What the NOT-heads fail to acknowledge is that their attitudes towards
> > politics benefit the very oligarchs paying for us to hate each other.
> The
> > insidious idea underlying pluralism is that these groups somehow
> "compete"
> > with one another for "influence" over the government.  That is, they
> bribe
> > officials.  This is what I mean when I say a coup took place at the
> Supreme
> > Court level in the 1970s when unelected judges equated bribery of
> politicians
> > with "free speech."  If you want to see what the Koch Brother's perfect
> market
> > in politics looks like, go visit Mexico today where every official is
> > available for a price (or soon shot).  That's the future that awaits us.
> >
> > So these two groups, lacking any pragmatic influence on positive agendas,
> > can't govern.  They can only veto, fume and fulminate.  That's where we
> find
> > ourselves.  They both promise heaven on earth but can't even stop
> graffiti,
> > much less a pandemic.  Reality collides with these delusions and knocks
> > followers into the same fatalistic flights of fancy that all failed
> > charismatic cults descend into.  Donald Trump becomes the Stokely
> Carmichael
> > of white power and the Abbie Hoffman of the pandemic - gonna levitate
> that
> > 'ronavirus with the good feelings of his mind ray.
> >
> > It's clear how the Confederacy keeps winding up in the same spot.  It's
> more
> > interesting how the Left fell into this heresy.  Basically, in the '60s
> and
> > '70s, Nixon destroyed the Left with targeted assassinations of Black
> Panther
> > leadership, the War on Drugs, Cointelpro and other programs.  The
> apparatus
> > developed against democracy in Vietnam and Indonesia was reimported to
> > "deradicalize" urban resistance to the new oil imperialist/banking
> oligarchy
> > that you now see coming apart.  This is why, today, we have such high
> > incarceration rates: Jim Crow Part II.
> >
> > With both parties now locked down by bribery, unions getting dismantled
> and
> > wages driven down, there was no room anymore for the Left outside
> academia and
> > to succeed on the Left there, you had to abandon claims on material
> wealth and
> > economic justice or you'd be dealt with too.  Courses on Locke, Rousseau
> and
> > Madison were shunted aside and restricted to graduate school - if
> available at
> > all - so no uppity undergrads would ever have the gall to attack
> undemocratic
> > militarism with democratic theory ever again.  That forced the Left into
> a
> > peculiarly sterile conversation about race and sex - not the underlying
> > sources of injustice there that could never be questioned but rather on
> > personal experience - to a fatalistically myopic degree.  The end result
> of
> > this is something called, bizarrely, Boasian antiracism
> > <
> https://policytensor.com/2019/10/10/what-in-the-name-of-the-lord-is-boasian-antiracism/
> >.
> >
> > A similar defenestration of Christianity occurred on the right.  It's
> > considered "heresy" now to discuss the fact that Jesus wanted debt
> > cancellation - when in fact the heresy is failing to point out that he
> did and
> > that led to the crucifixion.
> >
> > Blame it all on the "Me Decade" of the '70s.  Both the right and the left
> > turned toward the personal, especially personal narrative and
> confessional -
> > and new forms of communication gave them this power.  Both sides fell
> prey to
> > exaggerated doctrines of Deconstruction, elevating personal revelation
> above
> > law, constitution and Gospel truth enabling the "will-to-power" movements
> > common in fascism.  Out went universal meaning and in swept wishy-washy
> > relativism with "safe spaces" where nobody has to be overruled.
> >
> > Charismatic evangelicals (read: segregationists) substituted personal
> > confession for Biblical truth.  Witness George Zimmerman claiming it was
> part
> > of God's plan he shoot an unarmed black boy walking home at night.  The
> Right
> > ate it up forgetting that
> >
> > 1)  No greater love has a man than he gives up his life to save another
> (*not*
> > takes another).
> > 2)  Do not be overcome by evil but rather overcome evil with good.
> > 3)  There is no fear in love.  Love casts out fear.
> >
> > Zimmerman got out of the car that night armed with a gun because he was
> afraid
> > he might die and unafraid to kill - pretty much the opposite of a
> Christian.
> > But the anti-Christian charismatics ate it up in their culture war
> because he
> > hated the right people.
> >
> > Of course, on the Left, these ironic contradictions abound too.
> >
> > When I heard Bruce Jenner confessing happiness at no longer having to
> lie to
> > everybody, my first thought was, "He's admitting to cheating with
> steroids
> > like I'm positive almost everybody in track and field at the Olympic
> level has
> > been doing since the '50s?"
> >
> > No.
> >
> > My second thought was, "He's apologizing for giving people cancer and
> diabetes
> > by selling us Wheaties?"
> >
> > Nope again.
> >
> > He's transgendered.
> >
> > Oh.
> >
> > How was that ever my business?
> >
> > What about all the people harmed by the cheating?
> >
> > Oh, well?
> >
> > In the future, we did get our fifteen minutes of fame and now we're all
> > trapped in our own personality cults.  We're one big self-published,
> unedited
> > echo chamber of one.  Ours is an era of personal narrative devoid of
> genuine
> > readers.  Reading takes kindness.  Reading takes reflection and
> reflection is
> > the enemy of sensationalist tweets.  (Got to move those ads.)  Bridging
> these
> > islands of self presupposes an objective reality that can sustain us
> while
> > we're "at sea" off your own island.  I think Percy referred to this as
> the
> > "intersubjective."
> >
> > But politically speaking, no man is an island.  We can't be our own
> subjects
> > of one, which was Madison's point.  Substituting mob gangs does not give
> you a
> > better form of government.
> >
> > We all fall prey to different heresies of perfection.  Tech bros seem to
> think
> > the world will become a perfect place with enough microchips thrown at
> it.
> > (I've debugged too much code to believe that one.)  The flip side of
> that is
> > nasty too.  Nostalgia is the enemy of forgiveness, which was a major
> theme of
> > Percy's.  Nostalgia imagines a perfect past.  If the past was once
> perfect -
> > or at least better - then the screwed up way things are today is
> unnecessary
> > and we need no forgiveness.  We just need to travel back in our memory
> to get
> > there.
> >
> > But there's no one left showing us how fallible that memory is.  Those
> critics
> > disappeared in our flattened new perspective on life.
> >
> > We shouldn't idealize the past or despise it.  Nor should we idealize the
> > future.  We should be, in our dire time of need, raging Pragmatists and
> > radicalized moderates.
> >
> > Wade Riddick
> >
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > Received: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 10:43:12 AM EDT
> > From: Ernest Hutton <ehutton at huttonassociates.com>
> > To: "Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion"
> > <percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 162, Issue 11
> >
> > ?
> > ?Hazel Motes (in Flannery O?Connor?s Wise Blood), searches for God by
> > railing against organi
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/ing+against+organi?entry=gmail&source=g>zed
> religion. But in doing so, he prophesizes the
> > authoritarian end-state pushed by today?s cancel culture:  ?Where you
> come
> > from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and
> where
> > you are is no good unless you can get away from it.?
> >
> > O?Connor had it right, and is now a victim of her own perspicacity. This
> > reign of terror is destroying us all!
> >
> > Ernie Hutton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Ernest W Hutton Jr. FAICP Assoc AIA
> > Hutton Associates Inc.
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> >
> > >> On Aug 6, 2020, at 4:55 AM, Plemmons, Gregory <
> gregory.plemmons at vumc.org>
> > wrote:
> > > ?
> > > Patrick Connelly, a Percy scholar, spoke on Percy and race at one of
> the
> > former Walker Percy Weekends. He commonly referenced a quote from Percy
> (I
> > wish I knew the original source) about the eternal ?problem of human
> frailty
> > trapped in historical circumstance?. That quote has stuck with me. It has
> > echoes of Pompeii, especially as we seem to be entering a whole new era
> of
> > cancel culture. The extreme left?s iconoclasm frightens me almost as
> much as
> > that of the Knotheads. I wish people could devote more energy inward
> toward
> > themselves and the current state of things. While dissecting the past
> will
> > always have some merit, what are we ourselves going to be judged on,
> fifty
> > years from now? Even five years from this pandemic? Percy was imperfect
> as the
> > best of us, but he and his family also slept in their attic for two weeks
> > after a bomb threat from the local Klan in 1969, after defending the
> removal
> > of the Confederate flag from the principal?s office of the local high
> > school.
> > >
> > > Zadie Smith took a stab recently attempting to answer the question of
> the
> > purpose of fiction. ?Does it seem at all surprising in 2019...that we
> should
> > have this hypersensitivity?... Whereas many more material issues?economic
> > inequality, criminal justice reform, immigration?prove frighteningly
> > intractable, language becomes the convenient battlefield.?
> > >
> > > Apologies for the long-winded rant. I read the New Yorker article. It
> taught
> > me nothing new. Flannery was trapped as anyone. Her poor physical health
> is
> > often overlooked. Lupus is a horrible disease and there were little
> options
> > for treatment or even simple relief in her time. Again, ?historical
> > circumstance?. I like to think if her disease hadn?t claimed her at 39,
> > her views might have evolved, too. I guess we?ll never know.
> > >
> > > Gregory Plemmons, MD
> > >
> > >> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Charles Cowherd <
> charlescowherd at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> ?
> > >> Just to weigh in on the Flannery O?Connor/ Paul Elie scrum.
> > >> At the seminary (Episcopal) that I attended, a professor had included
> the
> > short story ?The Artificial N____? in his compendium of short stories
> > matched up to the preaching lectionary. (Flannery O?Connor fiction is
> VERY
> > popular in Episcopal circles.)
> > >> A draft copy somehow was made available to my fellow students, who
> opposed
> > the inclusion. There was a big townhall meeting, a student petition,
> > eventually the professor/author agreed to remove the story.
> > >> This was about 3 years ago.
> > >> I offer that up merely as another tiny data point in whatever this
> > particular moment is all about. I know that Walker Percy spoke on that
> short
> > story specifically but cannot find it, it?s in CONVERSATIONS with WALKER
> > PECY.
> > >> I do think that it?s a topic that we can discuss on this forum with
> care
> > and concern and kindness for one another.
> > >> Also, I have been reading THE NEW YORKER all my life (?a wonderful
> Yankee
> > magazine?- my Dad always would say!). Only with this article the
> magazine it
> > reveal how detached it is, as a source of journalism, from the world. It
> > reminded me of Percy?s dislike (too soft a word?) for Descartes. Instead,
> > Percy believed we are all embodied creatures, fallen and stumbling in the
> > world. Whereas the New Yorker writes an article with the title:  ?How
> Racist
> > was Flannery O?Connor?? without any source of social location of time and
> > place.
> > >> All my best,
> > >> Charles Cowherd
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> > message with additional caution.]
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