From wppdirector at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 02:32:23 2022 From: wppdirector at gmail.com (Henry P. Mills III) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 02:32:23 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere" Message-ID: *Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy:* "*Panic in the Streets* with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater. Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie. Afterwards in the street, she looks around the neighborhood. 'Yes, it is certified now.' She refers to a phenomenon of moviegoing which I have called certification. Nowadays when a person lives somewhere, in a neighborhood, the place is not certified for him. More than likely he will live there sadly and the emptiness which is inside him will expand until it evacuates the entire neighborhood. 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More than likely he will live there sadly and the emptiness which is inside him will expand until it evacuates the entire neighborhood. But if he sees a movie which shows his very neighborhood, it becomes possible for him to live, for a time at least, as a person who is Somewhere and not Anywhere." >> ?Walker Percy, The Moviegoer >> >> >> >> This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint Essentials. 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Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in Covington than the local Budweiser distributor. I suppose, a fortiori, that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. Terrell wrote: ? I?ve always enjoyed, against the background of this quote from MG, Percy?s statement in an interview somewhere that he enjoyed living in a nondescript small town because it was ?not a place.? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:32 AM, Henry P. Mills III wrote: ? Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy: "Panic in the Streets with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater. Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie. Afterwards in the street, she looks around the neighborhood. 'Yes, it is certified now.' She refers to a phenomenon of moviegoing which I have called certification. Nowadays when a person lives somewhere, in a neighborhood, the place is not certified for him. More than likely he will live there sadly and the emptiness which is inside him will expand until it evacuates the entire neighborhood. But if he sees a movie which shows his very neighborhood, it becomes possible for him to live, for a time at least, as a person who is Somewhere and not Anywhere." ?Walker Percy, The Moviegoer ________________________________ This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint Essentials. 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Best wishes, Henry Mills Percy-L Administrator ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE WALKER PERCY WEEKEND *A LITERARY FESTIVAL CELEBRATING THE ACCLAIMEDNOVELIST'S LIFE AND WORK.**JUNE 3-5, 2022* *Good food, craft beer and bourbon, live music, and a great time talking about books and Southern culture under the live oaks: That's what the seventh annual Walker Percy Weekend has to offer when it returns to celebrate the acclaimed novelist's life and work, June 3-5, 2022 in St. Francisville, LA.* 2022 PANELISTS: ?*DR CHRIS BAGLOW* directs the Science & Religion Initiative at McGrath Institute for Church Life at Notre Dame. A native of New Orleans, he regularly works Walker Percy?s thoughts and ideas and literature into his teaching of the connection between faith and reason. ? *JODEE BLANCO* is a best selling author of several books including *I John Kennedy Toole*, a *New York Times New and Noteworthy Selection. * Based on the extraordinary true story behind *A Confederacy of Dunces*, Toole?s Pulitzer Prize winning masterpiece, Blanco steps into Toole?s voice, presenting a persuasive and compelling new interpretation of the events that led to the making of the book that almost never was. ?*JOHN SHELTON REED* is an American sociologist, essayist, and author or editor of twenty-two books, most dealing with the contemporary American South. He taught at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill from 1969 until his retirement, helped to found the Center for the Study of the American South, and was a founding co-editor of the quarterly *Southern Cultures. *Among his many books is *Barbecue,* which traces the history of Southern barbecue from its roots in the 16th century Caribbean. ? *READ MERCER SCHUCHARDT* (PhD, New York University) is associate professor of communication at Wheaton College. He earned his doctorate under the invitation of the late Neil Postman at NYU?s Media Ecology program. He is also a member of the Media Ecology Association and the International Jacques Ellul Society. Read will deliver an audiovisual presentation touching on each of the films mentioned in Percy's 1961 novel and National Book Award-winner *The Moviegoer.* *FESTIVAL WEBSITE* http://www.walkerpercyweekend.org *TICKETS* https://bontempstix.com/events/the-seventh-annual-walker-percy-weekend-6-3-2022 On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:33 AM, Burma Jones wrote: Hi Henry, The Walker Percy Weekend is set to resume this June: http://www.walkerpercyweekend.org Best, Leslie. ___ Henry P. Mills III Percy-L Manager Percy.Listserv.Manager at gmail.com (for listserv management) THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT www.ibiblio.org/wpercy (website) wppdirector at gmail.com (personal and Project email) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wply1223 at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 17:15:35 2022 From: wply1223 at gmail.com (Doug Brown) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:15:35 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Karl - I'm not able to quote precisely (and I'm not willing to do research on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here where I live), but I seem to remember that Percy said somewhere that he liked living in Covington because it was a no-place right next to a place-place. Like, he enjoyed the anonymity of Covington but also appreciated New Orleans being right there - he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by living in NEW! ORLEANS! That's roughly how I felt when I lived in a small town outside of Charleston, SC. I now live in Asheville, NC, which I love for being a place-place, but not an overwhelming one. And as I type that, I see that I should clarify that I live across the river in West Asheville. So I suppose it's kind of the same again. I'd be interested to know if people in this Percy Community share any of Percy's experience in this regard. How do y'all feel about the placeness of where you live? Doug Brown On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:37 AM Karl M. Terrell wrote: > > When asked by locals what he did for a living, he would initially reply > ?writer,? which led to some rather awkward conversations. He then changed > his reply to ?nothing,? and reported (paraphrasing) that they ?seemed to > accept that pretty well.? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: > > ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had > written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in > Covington than the local Budweiser distributor. I suppose, a fortiori, > that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. 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More than likely he will live there > sadly and the emptiness which is inside him will expand until it evacuates > the entire neighborhood. 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URL: From kterrell at stokeswagner.com Sat Mar 19 18:35:27 2022 From: kterrell at stokeswagner.com (Karl M. Terrell) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 22:35:27 +0000 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78C41DC6-AE95-4E33-B3DB-BCB28F88363E@stokeswagner.com> I live fairly near you, Doug, in Brevard (actually, about a half-dozen miles outside Brevard). Previously I lived in Atlanta, for 40 years, which is not-a-place seeking everlastingly to become one. Its wealthy scene-setters, when deciding to repair to the mountains, invariably choose Highlands/Cashiers because, you know . . . it?s a place. I chose Brevard for the music community and for the beauty of the mountains and this wonderful climate. But also because ? in the spirit of the good doctor ? it?s not a place. Karl Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Doug Brown wrote: ? Hi Karl - I'm not able to quote precisely (and I'm not willing to do research on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here where I live), but I seem to remember that Percy said somewhere that he liked living in Covington because it was a no-place right next to a place-place. Like, he enjoyed the anonymity of Covington but also appreciated New Orleans being right there - he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by living in NEW! ORLEANS! That's roughly how I felt when I lived in a small town outside of Charleston, SC. I now live in Asheville, NC, which I love for being a place-place, but not an overwhelming one. And as I type that, I see that I should clarify that I live across the river in West Asheville. So I suppose it's kind of the same again. I'd be interested to know if people in this Percy Community share any of Percy's experience in this regard. How do y'all feel about the placeness of where you live? Doug Brown On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:37 AM Karl M. Terrell > wrote: When asked by locals what he did for a living, he would initially reply ?writer,? which led to some rather awkward conversations. He then changed his reply to ?nothing,? and reported (paraphrasing) that they ?seemed to accept that pretty well.? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in Covington than the local Budweiser distributor. I suppose, a fortiori, that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. Terrell > wrote: ? I?ve always enjoyed, against the background of this quote from MG, Percy?s statement in an interview somewhere that he enjoyed living in a nondescript small town because it was ?not a place.? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:32 AM, Henry P. Mills III > wrote: ? Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy: "Panic in the Streets with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater. Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie. Afterwards in the street, she looks around the neighborhood. 'Yes, it is certified now.' She refers to a phenomenon of moviegoing which I have called certification. Nowadays when a person lives somewhere, in a neighborhood, the place is not certified for him. More than likely he will live there sadly and the emptiness which is inside him will expand until it evacuates the entire neighborhood. But if he sees a movie which shows his very neighborhood, it becomes possible for him to live, for a time at least, as a person who is Somewhere and not Anywhere." ?Walker Percy, The Moviegoer ________________________________ This email has been scanned for spam and viruses by Proofpoint Essentials. 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URL: From stephenholmgren at me.com Sat Mar 19 18:53:49 2022 From: stephenholmgren at me.com (Stephen Holmgren) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:53:49 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] A place, or not a place Message-ID: <0E448E44-0893-428E-B567-00668F5B6B16@me.com> I/we have retired back to St Francisville, familiar to Walker Percy Weekend fans, and on the radar screen of Percy readers, especially with respect to Thanatos. Here is an interesting paradox ~ to folks in Baton Rouge and New Orleans, St Francisville and West Feliciana Parish are viewed not so much in the sense of being ?a place,? but more as a region that is historically interesting, and quaint, and an area to which one might make a day trip to see some places of interest and or to have a nice meal. Yet, to those who live around here, this parish and its families and history constitute ?a place? in a very significant sense for those who live and work here. This constitutes a paradox about which I cannot image Percy was unaware, especially still having distant cousins in the parish who bear his family name, or who are yet related to him. Stephen Holmgren stephenholmgren at me.com blog: www.towardbeauty.org book: Ethics After Easter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lowry.charles at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 19:17:39 2022 From: lowry.charles at gmail.com (lowry.charles at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:17:39 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere" In-Reply-To: <78C41DC6-AE95-4E33-B3DB-BCB28F88363E@stokeswagner.com> References: <78C41DC6-AE95-4E33-B3DB-BCB28F88363E@stokeswagner.com> Message-ID: For forty-four of my seventy-two years I have lived in Brooklyn. Half the time Brooklynites want to be sure that you know that Brooklyn is part of the greatest city in the world; half the time Brooklynites want to be sure that you know that Brooklyn is not the same thing as Manhattan. Brooklyn?s situation may be unique. To the extent that it is next to Manhattan, it is not a place, but it is large enough and diverse enough and interesting enough that it could be a place. We have quiet, stable residential neighborhoods?I live in one. We have crowded, almost jostling neighborhoods, the landing place of the next wave of immigrants. We have what are considered dangerous neighborhoods where nevertheless 95% of the residents are perfectly law abiding. We have the steely determination to pursue the dream, to build the prosperity, brick by brick, and we have the silliness of the hipster neighborhoods, with stores selling endless varieties of only one item, e.g., pickles or oatmeal. Still, though, Pete Hamill called his memoir Downtown, to make sure we all understood that every Brooklyn kid ultimately wants to cross the bridge. Is there a category for ?I don?t know if we want to be a place or not?? Chuck Lowry Brooklyn, New York Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Karl M. Terrell wrote: > > ? > > I live fairly near you, Doug, in Brevard (actually, about a half-dozen miles outside Brevard). > > Previously I lived in Atlanta, for 40 years, which is not-a-place seeking everlastingly to become one. Its wealthy scene-setters, when deciding to repair to the mountains, invariably choose Highlands/Cashiers because, you know . . . it?s a place. > > I chose Brevard for the music community and for the beauty of the mountains and this wonderful climate. But also because ? in the spirit of the good doctor ? it?s not a place. > > Karl > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Doug Brown wrote: >>> >> ? >> Hi Karl - I'm not able to quote precisely (and I'm not willing to do research on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here where I live), but I seem to remember that Percy said somewhere that he liked living in Covington because it was a no-place right next to a place-place. Like, he enjoyed the anonymity of Covington but also appreciated New Orleans being right there - he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by living in NEW! ORLEANS! >> >> That's roughly how I felt when I lived in a small town outside of Charleston, SC. I now live in Asheville, NC, which I love for being a place-place, but not an overwhelming one. And as I type that, I see that I should clarify that I live across the river in West Asheville. So I suppose it's kind of the same again. >> >> I'd be interested to know if people in this Percy Community share any of Percy's experience in this regard. How do y'all feel about the placeness of where you live? >> >> Doug Brown >> >>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:37 AM Karl M. Terrell wrote: >>> >>> When asked by locals what he did for a living, he would initially reply ?writer,? which led to some rather awkward conversations. He then changed his reply to ?nothing,? and reported (paraphrasing) that they ?seemed to accept that pretty well.? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in Covington than the local Budweiser distributor. I suppose, a fortiori, that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. Terrell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> I?ve always enjoyed, against the background >>>>> of this quote from MG, Percy?s statement in an interview somewhere that he enjoyed living in a nondescript small town because it was ?not a place.? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:32 AM, Henry P. Mills III wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ? >>>>>> Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Panic in the Streets with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater. Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie. >>>>>> Afterwards in the street, she looks around the neighborhood. 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URL: From joe.francisco4591 at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 19:52:08 2022 From: joe.francisco4591 at gmail.com (Joseph Francisco) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:52:08 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere" In-Reply-To: References: <78C41DC6-AE95-4E33-B3DB-BCB28F88363E@stokeswagner.com> Message-ID: Having grown up in New Jersey and having lived in Brooklyn, I would argue that largely yes, it is a place, but that it also depends on what neighborhood we're talking about. For example, I lived in Flatbush--not much of a place (who's ever heard of Newkirk Plaza?), if I may say so. But on the other hand, just consider the Brooklynization of American cities, and even abroad! The Williamsburg aesthetic is exported--brick wall, exposed edison lightbulbs, neo-19th century mustaches, etc... and goods sold in Paris advertised as made/designed in Brooklyn! It's a place in my book (speaking as a millenial--that may be important too)--unless we're talking about Flatbush or Canarsie, etc... That's my two cents.. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 7:23 PM wrote: > For forty-four of my seventy-two years I have lived in Brooklyn. Half the > time Brooklynites want to be sure that you know that Brooklyn is part of > the greatest city in the world; half the time Brooklynites want to be sure > that you know that Brooklyn is not the same thing as Manhattan. > > Brooklyn?s situation may be unique. To the extent that it is next to > Manhattan, it is not a place, but it is large enough and diverse enough and > interesting enough that it could be a place. We have quiet, stable > residential neighborhoods?I live in one. We have crowded, almost jostling > neighborhoods, the landing place of the next wave of immigrants. We have > what are considered dangerous neighborhoods where nevertheless 95% of the > residents are perfectly law abiding. We have the steely determination to > pursue the dream, to build the prosperity, brick by brick, and we have the > silliness of the hipster neighborhoods, with stores selling endless > varieties of only one item, e.g., pickles or oatmeal. Still, though, Pete > Hamill called his memoir Downtown, to make sure we all understood that > every Brooklyn kid ultimately wants to cross the bridge. > > Is there a category for ?I don?t know if we want to be a place or not?? > > Chuck Lowry > Brooklyn, New York > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Karl M. Terrell > wrote: > > ? > > > I live fairly near you, Doug, in Brevard (actually, about a half-dozen > miles outside Brevard). > > Previously I lived in Atlanta, for 40 years, which is not-a-place seeking > everlastingly to become one. Its wealthy scene-setters, when deciding to > repair to the mountains, invariably choose Highlands/Cashiers because, you > know . . . it?s a place. > > I chose Brevard for the music community and for the beauty of the > mountains and this wonderful climate. But also because ? in the spirit of > the good doctor ? it?s not a place. > > Karl > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Doug Brown wrote: > > ? > Hi Karl - I'm not able to quote precisely (and I'm not willing to do > research on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here where I live), but I seem > to remember that Percy said somewhere that he liked living in Covington > because it was a no-place right next to a place-place. Like, he enjoyed the > anonymity of Covington but also appreciated New Orleans being right there - > he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by living in NEW! ORLEANS! > > That's roughly how I felt when I lived in a small town outside of > Charleston, SC. I now live in Asheville, NC, which I love for being a > place-place, but not an overwhelming one. And as I type that, I see that I > should clarify that I live across the river in West Asheville. So I suppose > it's kind of the same again. > > I'd be interested to know if people in this Percy Community share any of > Percy's experience in this regard. How do y'all feel about the placeness of > where you live? > > Doug Brown > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:37 AM Karl M. Terrell > wrote: > >> >> When asked by locals what he did for a living, he would initially reply >> ?writer,? which led to some rather awkward conversations. He then changed >> his reply to ?nothing,? and reported (paraphrasing) that they ?seemed to >> accept that pretty well.? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had >> written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in >> Covington than the local Budweiser distributor. I suppose, a fortiori, >> that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. Terrell >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> I?ve always enjoyed, against the background >> of this quote from MG, Percy?s statement in an interview somewhere that >> he enjoyed living in a nondescript small town because it was ?not a place.? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:32 AM, Henry P. Mills III >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> *Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy:* >> >> >> "*Panic in the Streets* with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas >> Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater. >> Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie. >> >> >> Afterwards in the street, she looks around the neighborhood. 'Yes, it is >> certified now.' >> >> She refers to a phenomenon of moviegoing which I have called >> certification. Nowadays when a person lives somewhere, in a neighborhood, >> the place is not certified for him. More than likely he will live there >> sadly and the emptiness which is inside him will expand until it evacuates >> the entire neighborhood. 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URL: From kterrell at stokeswagner.com Sat Mar 19 19:58:48 2022 From: kterrell at stokeswagner.com (Karl M. Terrell) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 23:58:48 +0000 Subject: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere" In-Reply-To: References: <78C41DC6-AE95-4E33-B3DB-BCB28F88363E@stokeswagner.com> Message-ID: <992C081A-893C-4343-9DB2-5DC4CF83C1BE@stokeswagner.com> Terrific description of Brooklyn, Chuck. I?ve spent a little time there, though far less than you ? your words ring true. ?I don?t know? is always a good category in my book. Karl Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 7:17 PM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: ? For forty-four of my seventy-two years I have lived in Brooklyn. Half the time Brooklynites want to be sure that you know that Brooklyn is part of the greatest city in the world; half the time Brooklynites want to be sure that you know that Brooklyn is not the same thing as Manhattan. Brooklyn?s situation may be unique. To the extent that it is next to Manhattan, it is not a place, but it is large enough and diverse enough and interesting enough that it could be a place. We have quiet, stable residential neighborhoods?I live in one. We have crowded, almost jostling neighborhoods, the landing place of the next wave of immigrants. We have what are considered dangerous neighborhoods where nevertheless 95% of the residents are perfectly law abiding. We have the steely determination to pursue the dream, to build the prosperity, brick by brick, and we have the silliness of the hipster neighborhoods, with stores selling endless varieties of only one item, e.g., pickles or oatmeal. Still, though, Pete Hamill called his memoir Downtown, to make sure we all understood that every Brooklyn kid ultimately wants to cross the bridge. Is there a category for ?I don?t know if we want to be a place or not?? Chuck Lowry Brooklyn, New York Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Karl M. Terrell wrote: ? I live fairly near you, Doug, in Brevard (actually, about a half-dozen miles outside Brevard). Previously I lived in Atlanta, for 40 years, which is not-a-place seeking everlastingly to become one. Its wealthy scene-setters, when deciding to repair to the mountains, invariably choose Highlands/Cashiers because, you know . . . it?s a place. I chose Brevard for the music community and for the beauty of the mountains and this wonderful climate. But also because ? in the spirit of the good doctor ? it?s not a place. Karl Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Doug Brown wrote: ? Hi Karl - I'm not able to quote precisely (and I'm not willing to do research on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here where I live), but I seem to remember that Percy said somewhere that he liked living in Covington because it was a no-place right next to a place-place. Like, he enjoyed the anonymity of Covington but also appreciated New Orleans being right there - he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by living in NEW! ORLEANS! That's roughly how I felt when I lived in a small town outside of Charleston, SC. I now live in Asheville, NC, which I love for being a place-place, but not an overwhelming one. And as I type that, I see that I should clarify that I live across the river in West Asheville. So I suppose it's kind of the same again. I'd be interested to know if people in this Percy Community share any of Percy's experience in this regard. How do y'all feel about the placeness of where you live? Doug Brown On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:37 AM Karl M. Terrell > wrote: When asked by locals what he did for a living, he would initially reply ?writer,? which led to some rather awkward conversations. He then changed his reply to ?nothing,? and reported (paraphrasing) that they ?seemed to accept that pretty well.? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in Covington than the local Budweiser distributor. I suppose, a fortiori, that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. Terrell > wrote: ? I?ve always enjoyed, against the background of this quote from MG, Percy?s statement in an interview somewhere that he enjoyed living in a nondescript small town because it was ?not a place.? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:32 AM, Henry P. Mills III > wrote: ? Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy: "Panic in the Streets with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater. Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie. 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URL: From larsonovic at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 21:07:33 2022 From: larsonovic at gmail.com (Michael Larson) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 20:07:33 -0500 Subject: [percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 172, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't think there really are any places anymore. Homogenization in preparation for globalization has won the day. Almost everywhere is anywhere now. Therefore, I like to stay the hell away from anywhere that bills itself as somewhere. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 6:59 PM wrote: > Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to > percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere" > (Karl M. Terrell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 23:58:48 +0000 > From: "Karl M. Terrell" > To: "Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical > Discussion" > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. > Anywhere" > Message-ID: <992C081A-893C-4343-9DB2-5DC4CF83C1BE at stokeswagner.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Terrific description of Brooklyn, Chuck. I?ve spent a little time there, > though far less than you ? your words ring true. > > ?I don?t know? is always a good category in my book. > > Karl > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 7:17 PM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: > > ? For forty-four of my seventy-two years I have lived in Brooklyn. Half > the time Brooklynites want to be sure that you know that Brooklyn is part > of the greatest city in the world; half the time Brooklynites want to be > sure that you know that Brooklyn is not the same thing as Manhattan. > > Brooklyn?s situation may be unique. To the extent that it is next to > Manhattan, it is not a place, but it is large enough and diverse enough and > interesting enough that it could be a place. We have quiet, stable > residential neighborhoods?I live in one. We have crowded, almost jostling > neighborhoods, the landing place of the next wave of immigrants. We have > what are considered dangerous neighborhoods where nevertheless 95% of the > residents are perfectly law abiding. We have the steely determination to > pursue the dream, to build the prosperity, brick by brick, and we have the > silliness of the hipster neighborhoods, with stores selling endless > varieties of only one item, e.g., pickles or oatmeal. Still, though, Pete > Hamill called his memoir Downtown, to make sure we all understood that > every Brooklyn kid ultimately wants to cross the bridge. > > Is there a category for ?I don?t know if we want to be a place or not?? > > Chuck Lowry > Brooklyn, New York > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Karl M. Terrell > wrote: > > ? > > I live fairly near you, Doug, in Brevard (actually, about a half-dozen > miles outside Brevard). > > Previously I lived in Atlanta, for 40 years, which is not-a-place seeking > everlastingly to become one. Its wealthy scene-setters, when deciding to > repair to the mountains, invariably choose Highlands/Cashiers because, you > know . . . it?s a place. > > I chose Brevard for the music community and for the beauty of the > mountains and this wonderful climate. But also because ? in the spirit of > the good doctor ? it?s not a place. > > Karl > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Doug Brown wrote: > > ? > Hi Karl - I'm not able to quote precisely (and I'm not willing to do > research on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here where I live), but I seem > to remember that Percy said somewhere that he liked living in Covington > because it was a no-place right next to a place-place. Like, he enjoyed the > anonymity of Covington but also appreciated New Orleans being right there - > he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by living in NEW! ORLEANS! > > That's roughly how I felt when I lived in a small town outside of > Charleston, SC. I now live in Asheville, NC, which I love for being a > place-place, but not an overwhelming one. And as I type that, I see that I > should clarify that I live across the river in West Asheville. So I suppose > it's kind of the same again. > > I'd be interested to know if people in this Percy Community share any of > Percy's experience in this regard. How do y'all feel about the placeness of > where you live? > > Doug Brown > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:37 AM Karl M. Terrell > wrote: > > When asked by locals what he did for a living, he would initially reply > ?writer,? which led to some rather awkward conversations. He then changed > his reply to ?nothing,? and reported (paraphrasing) that they ?seemed to > accept that pretty well.? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com lowry.charles at gmail.com> wrote: > > ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had > written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in > Covington than the local Budweiser distributor. I suppose, a fortiori, > that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. Terrell > wrote: > > ? > > I?ve always enjoyed, against the background > of this quote from MG, Percy?s statement in an interview somewhere that he > enjoyed living in a nondescript small town because it was ?not a place.? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:32 AM, Henry P. Mills III > wrote: > > ? > > Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy: > > > "Panic in the Streets with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas > Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater. > Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie. > > Afterwards in the street, she looks around the neighborhood. 'Yes, it is > certified now.' > > She refers to a phenomenon of moviegoing which I have called > certification. 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Although it is only a partial and not a definitive answer to your question, I can report that Hermann Hesse does not appear in the indices of the following books I have on my Percy shelf: ?Jay Tolson?s and Father Samway?s biographies of Percy ?John F. Desmond?s Walker Percy?s Search for Community ?Robert Coles? Walker Percy, An American Search ?Jessica Hooten Wilson?s Reading Walker Percy?s Novels and Walker Percy, Fyodor Dostoevsky, and the Search for Influence ?Lewis A. Lawson?s Following Percy ?Kieran Quinlan?s Walker Percy, The Last Catholic Novelist ?Lawson and Kramer, editors, Conversations With Walker Percy Further affiant sayeth naught. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Michael Martin Serafin wrote: > > ? > When I was a teenager in the 1970s, I was a serious reader of Hermann Hesse, the great German author. I learned about Hesse from an encouraging essay by Kurt Vonnegut, also a favorite of mine at the time. 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URL: From lauren.stacy.berdy at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 15:09:36 2022 From: lauren.stacy.berdy at gmail.com (Lauren Berdy) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 15:09:36 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Percy & Hesse In-Reply-To: <81E33870-0F7E-410F-BC46-99EB1413D37D@gmail.com> References: <81E33870-0F7E-410F-BC46-99EB1413D37D@gmail.com> Message-ID: To a cultured mind no scenery is Ordinary. And Such a mind will prefer solitude in An unassuming landscape. DP lived on the bogue Fayala ( sp) A porous and certain primeval Relaxin and releasing Also He wasn?t scared to meet the Crowd and suck crayfishes either But He wasn?t dipping into orientalists He made fun of them with aunt Emily?s Bagvagita. Too bad Tom Merton and he never Dialogued. Doubt is too catching. Thank you, Lauren Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2022, at 2:34 PM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: > > ?I am no scholar, heaven knows, but in my laziness I have developed a million labor-saving workarounds. Although it is only a partial and not a definitive answer to your question, I can report that Hermann Hesse does not appear in the indices of the following books I have on my Percy shelf: > > ?Jay Tolson?s and Father Samway?s biographies of Percy > ?John F. Desmond?s Walker Percy?s Search for Community > ?Robert Coles? Walker Percy, An American Search > ?Jessica Hooten Wilson?s Reading Walker Percy?s Novels and Walker Percy, Fyodor Dostoevsky, and the Search for Influence > ?Lewis A. Lawson?s Following Percy > ?Kieran Quinlan?s Walker Percy, The Last Catholic Novelist > ?Lawson and Kramer, editors, Conversations With Walker Percy > > Further affiant sayeth naught. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Michael Martin Serafin wrote: >>> >> ? >> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, I was a serious reader of Hermann Hesse, the great German author. I learned about Hesse from an encouraging essay by Kurt Vonnegut, also a favorite of mine at the time. Did Percy read Hesse? >> >> Michael Martin Serafin >> Chicopee, MA. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------- >> USING PERCY-L >> * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html >> * Manage Your Membership: https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l >> * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org >> * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com >> >> LISTSERV ARCHIVES >> * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ >> * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html >> >> THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT >> * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > > ---------------------------------- > USING PERCY-L > * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html > * Manage Your Membership: https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com > > LISTSERV ARCHIVES > * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html > > THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT > * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lauren.stacy.berdy at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 16:15:29 2022 From: lauren.stacy.berdy at gmail.com (Lauren Berdy) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:15:29 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Not sure Message-ID: <3FEDDF60-0537-4E0E-ACA1-90A14633B70A@gmail.com> Haven?t checked Aunt Emily had ?a life of the Buddha Displayed.? ? Watery places to travel indeed Sent from my iPhone From wply1223 at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 17:51:21 2022 From: wply1223 at gmail.com (Doug Brown) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 17:51:21 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Percy & Hesse In-Reply-To: References: <81E33870-0F7E-410F-BC46-99EB1413D37D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Michael, First, if you were a teenager in the 70s, then you and I are roughly the same age. I work in technology, so I often find myself surrounded by young people. I tell them that I am both a time-traveler and immortal. A time-traveler because I used to live in the 60s and 70s, and now I'm here. Immortal because ... well ... all the evidence so far indicates so. Charles Lowry's answer to your question is more thorough, but I'll add a vague statement that I know Percy refers to Herman Hesse a couple of times in Love in the Ruins. Unfortunately, I think both references I'm recalling are not especially flattering to Hesse. I think the character Tom More (not necessarily speaking for Percy) thinks of readers of Hesse (but not necessarily Hesse himself) as being a bit too high-minded. Tom More makes these kinds of observations once in conversation with his former wife and once in reference to one half of the attendees at a "Pit" scene where various psychiatrists present ideas in a somewhat competitive manner. But it's worth pointing out that the character Tom More is notoriously unreliable - and a bit grumpy. Not much help, but there you go. Doug Brown Walker Percy Loves You and Has a Wonderful Plan for Your Life On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 3:09 PM Lauren Berdy wrote: > To a cultured mind no scenery is > Ordinary. > And > Such a mind will prefer solitude in > An unassuming landscape. > DP lived on the bogue Fayala ( sp) > A porous and certain primeval > Relaxin and releasing > Also > He wasn?t scared to meet the > Crowd and suck crayfishes either > But > He wasn?t dipping into orientalists > He made fun of them with aunt > Emily?s Bagvagita. Too bad > Tom Merton and he never > Dialogued. > Doubt is too > catching. > Thank you, > Lauren > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 20, 2022, at 2:34 PM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: > > ?I am no scholar, heaven knows, but in my laziness I have developed a > million labor-saving workarounds. Although it is only a partial and not a > definitive answer to your question, I can report that Hermann Hesse does > not appear in the indices of the following books I have on my Percy shelf: > > ?Jay Tolson?s and Father Samway?s biographies of Percy > ?John F. Desmond?s Walker Percy?s Search for Community > ?Robert Coles? Walker Percy, An American Search > ?Jessica Hooten Wilson?s Reading Walker Percy?s Novels and Walker Percy, > Fyodor Dostoevsky, and the Search for Influence > ?Lewis A. Lawson?s Following Percy > ?Kieran Quinlan?s Walker Percy, The Last Catholic Novelist > ?Lawson and Kramer, editors, Conversations With Walker Percy > > Further affiant sayeth naught. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 20, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Michael Martin Serafin < > michael_serafin at hotmail.com> wrote: > > ? > When I was a teenager in the 1970s, I was a serious reader of Hermann > Hesse, the great German author. I learned about Hesse from an encouraging > essay by Kurt Vonnegut, also a favorite of mine at the time. Did Percy read > Hesse? > > Michael Martin Serafin > Chicopee, MA. > > > > ---------------------------------- > USING PERCY-L > * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: > https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html > * Manage Your Membership: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com > > LISTSERV ARCHIVES > * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html > > THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT > * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > > > ---------------------------------- > USING PERCY-L > * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: > https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html > * Manage Your Membership: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com > > LISTSERV ARCHIVES > * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html > > THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT > * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > > > ---------------------------------- > USING PERCY-L > * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: > https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html > * Manage Your Membership: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com > > LISTSERV ARCHIVES > * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html > > THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT > * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bonannju at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 10:06:56 2022 From: bonannju at gmail.com (Justin Bonanno) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 10:06:56 -0400 Subject: [percy-l] Percy & Hesse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can get a sense of Percy's view of Hesse in *Love in the Ruins, *p. 64. Thomas More suggests that *Siddhartha *was one of the books that ruined his wife Doris. -Justin On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 3:10 PM wrote: > Send Percy-L mailing list submissions to > percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > percy-l-request at lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > percy-l-owner at lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Percy-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Percy & Hesse (Michael Martin Serafin) > 2. Re: Percy & Hesse (lowry.charles at gmail.com) > 3. Re: Percy & Hesse (Lauren Berdy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:52:39 +0000 > From: Michael Martin Serafin > To: "percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org" > Subject: [percy-l] Percy & Hesse > Message-ID: > < > PH0PR05MB78825156F6FB8A4B82288FE993159 at PH0PR05MB7882.namprd05.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > When I was a teenager in the 1970s, I was a serious reader of Hermann > Hesse, the great German author. I learned about Hesse from an encouraging > essay by Kurt Vonnegut, also a favorite of mine at the time. Did Percy read > Hesse? > > Michael Martin Serafin > Chicopee, MA. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20220320/66438e3a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:34:01 -0400 > From: lowry.charles at gmail.com > To: "Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical > Discussion" > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy & Hesse > Message-ID: <81E33870-0F7E-410F-BC46-99EB1413D37D at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am no scholar, heaven knows, but in my laziness I have developed a > million labor-saving workarounds. Although it is only a partial and not a > definitive answer to your question, I can report that Hermann Hesse does > not appear in the indices of the following books I have on my Percy shelf: > > ?Jay Tolson?s and Father Samway?s biographies of Percy > ?John F. Desmond?s Walker Percy?s Search for Community > ?Robert Coles? Walker Percy, An American Search > ?Jessica Hooten Wilson?s Reading Walker Percy?s Novels and Walker Percy, > Fyodor Dostoevsky, and the Search for Influence > ?Lewis A. Lawson?s Following Percy > ?Kieran Quinlan?s Walker Percy, The Last Catholic Novelist > ?Lawson and Kramer, editors, Conversations With Walker Percy > > Further affiant sayeth naught. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 20, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Michael Martin Serafin < > michael_serafin at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > ? > > When I was a teenager in the 1970s, I was a serious reader of Hermann > Hesse, the great German author. I learned about Hesse from an encouraging > essay by Kurt Vonnegut, also a favorite of mine at the time. Did Percy read > Hesse? > > > > Michael Martin Serafin > > Chicopee, MA. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > USING PERCY-L > > * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: > https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html > > * Manage Your Membership: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com > > > > LISTSERV ARCHIVES > > * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html > > > > THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT > > * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20220320/e2639b86/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 15:09:36 -0400 > From: Lauren Berdy > To: "Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical > Discussion" > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Percy & Hesse > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > To a cultured mind no scenery is > Ordinary. > And > Such a mind will prefer solitude in > An unassuming landscape. > DP lived on the bogue Fayala ( sp) > A porous and certain primeval > Relaxin and releasing > Also > He wasn?t scared to meet the > Crowd and suck crayfishes either > But > He wasn?t dipping into orientalists > He made fun of them with aunt > Emily?s Bagvagita. Too bad > Tom Merton and he never > Dialogued. > Doubt is too > catching. > Thank you, > Lauren > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 20, 2022, at 2:34 PM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?I am no scholar, heaven knows, but in my laziness I have developed a > million labor-saving workarounds. Although it is only a partial and not a > definitive answer to your question, I can report that Hermann Hesse does > not appear in the indices of the following books I have on my Percy shelf: > > > > ?Jay Tolson?s and Father Samway?s biographies of Percy > > ?John F. Desmond?s Walker Percy?s Search for Community > > ?Robert Coles? Walker Percy, An American Search > > ?Jessica Hooten Wilson?s Reading Walker Percy?s Novels and Walker Percy, > Fyodor Dostoevsky, and the Search for Influence > > ?Lewis A. Lawson?s Following Percy > > ?Kieran Quinlan?s Walker Percy, The Last Catholic Novelist > > ?Lawson and Kramer, editors, Conversations With Walker Percy > > > > Further affiant sayeth naught. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Michael Martin Serafin < > michael_serafin at hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >> ? > >> When I was a teenager in the 1970s, I was a serious reader of Hermann > Hesse, the great German author. I learned about Hesse from an encouraging > essay by Kurt Vonnegut, also a favorite of mine at the time. Did Percy read > Hesse? > >> > >> Michael Martin Serafin > >> Chicopee, MA. > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------- > >> USING PERCY-L > >> * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: > https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html > >> * Manage Your Membership: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > >> * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > >> * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com > >> > >> LISTSERV ARCHIVES > >> * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > >> * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html > >> > >> THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT > >> * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: > https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > USING PERCY-L > > * Read Percy-L Charter and Policies: > https://ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/charter-policies.html > > * Manage Your Membership: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > * Submit a Post to Percy-L: percy-l at lists.ibiblio.org > > * Contact the Listserv Manager: percy.listserv.manager at gmail.com > > > > LISTSERV ARCHIVES > > * View Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/ > > * Search Percy-L Discussion Archives: > https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/listserv/how-to-search-archives.html > > > > THE WALKER PERCY PROJECT > > * Visit The Walker Percy Project website: https://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/percy-l/attachments/20220320/3d6d7228/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Percy-L mailing list > Percy-L at lists.ibiblio.org > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/percy-l > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Percy-L Digest, Vol 172, Issue 9 > *************************************** > -- Justin Bonanno, PhD https://jnbonanno.com [image: Mailtrack] Sender notified by Mailtrack 03/21/22, 10:00:05 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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