[percy-l] Percy-L Digest, Vol 172, Issue 7

Michael Larson larsonovic at gmail.com
Sat Mar 19 21:07:33 EDT 2022


I don't think there really are any places anymore. Homogenization in
preparation for globalization has won the day. Almost everywhere is
anywhere now. Therefore, I like to stay the hell away from anywhere that
bills itself as somewhere.

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>    1. Re: Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs. Anywhere"
>       (Karl M. Terrell)
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> Subject: Re: [percy-l] Walker Percy and Certification: "Somewhere vs.
>         Anywhere"
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> Terrific description of Brooklyn, Chuck. I?ve spent a little time there,
> though far less than you ? your words ring true.
>
> ?I don?t know? is always a good category in my book.
>
> Karl
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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 7:17 PM, lowry.charles at gmail.com wrote:
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> ? For forty-four of my seventy-two years I have lived in Brooklyn.  Half
> the time Brooklynites want to be sure that you know that Brooklyn is part
> of the greatest city in the world; half the time Brooklynites want to be
> sure that you know that Brooklyn is not the same thing as Manhattan.
>
> Brooklyn?s situation may be unique.  To the extent that it is next to
> Manhattan, it is not a place, but it is large enough and diverse enough and
> interesting enough that it could be a place.  We have quiet, stable
> residential neighborhoods?I live in one.  We have crowded, almost jostling
> neighborhoods, the landing place of the next wave of immigrants.  We have
> what are considered dangerous neighborhoods where nevertheless 95% of the
> residents are perfectly law abiding.  We have the steely determination to
> pursue the dream, to build the prosperity, brick by brick, and we have the
> silliness of the hipster neighborhoods, with stores selling endless
> varieties of only one item, e.g., pickles or oatmeal.  Still, though, Pete
> Hamill called his memoir Downtown, to make sure we all understood that
> every Brooklyn kid ultimately wants to cross the bridge.
>
> Is there a category for ?I don?t know if we want to be a place or not??
>
> Chuck Lowry
> Brooklyn, New York
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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Karl M. Terrell <kterrell at stokeswagner.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I live fairly near you, Doug, in Brevard (actually, about a half-dozen
> miles outside Brevard).
>
> Previously I lived in Atlanta, for 40 years, which is not-a-place seeking
> everlastingly to become one.  Its wealthy scene-setters, when deciding to
> repair to the mountains, invariably choose Highlands/Cashiers because, you
> know . . . it?s a place.
>
> I chose Brevard for the music community and for the beauty of the
> mountains and this wonderful climate. But also because ? in the spirit of
> the good doctor ? it?s not a place.
>
> Karl
>
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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Doug Brown <wply1223 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hi Karl - I'm not able to quote precisely (and I'm not willing to do
> research on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here where I live), but I seem
> to remember that Percy said somewhere that he liked living in Covington
> because it was a no-place right next to a place-place. Like, he enjoyed the
> anonymity of Covington but also appreciated New Orleans being right there -
> he just didn't want to be overwhelmed by living in NEW! ORLEANS!
>
> That's roughly how I felt when I lived in a small town outside of
> Charleston, SC. I now live in Asheville, NC, which I love for being a
> place-place, but not an overwhelming one. And as I type that, I see that I
> should clarify that I live across the river in West Asheville. So I suppose
> it's kind of the same again.
>
> I'd be interested to know if people in this Percy Community share any of
> Percy's experience in this regard. How do y'all feel about the placeness of
> where you live?
>
> Doug Brown
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:37 AM Karl M. Terrell <kterrell at stokeswagner.com
> <mailto:kterrell at stokeswagner.com>> wrote:
>
> When asked by locals what he did for a living, he would initially reply
> ?writer,? which led to some rather awkward conversations. He then changed
> his reply to ?nothing,? and reported (paraphrasing) that they ?seemed to
> accept that pretty well.?
>
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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 9:09 AM, lowry.charles at gmail.com<mailto:
> lowry.charles at gmail.com> wrote:
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> ? He also said that he loved living in Covington because, though he had
> written a novel that won the National Book Award, he was less famous in
> Covington than the local Budweiser distributor.  I suppose, a fortiori,
> that would apply as well to the local Abita distributor.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Karl M. Terrell <kterrell at stokeswagner.com
> <mailto:kterrell at stokeswagner.com>> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I?ve always enjoyed, against the background
> of this quote from MG, Percy?s statement in an interview somewhere that he
> enjoyed living in a nondescript small town because it was ?not a place.?
>
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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:32 AM, Henry P. Mills III <wppdirector at gmail.com
> <mailto:wppdirector at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Somewhere vs. Anywhere, a Percy quote for the community to enjoy:
>
>
> "Panic in the Streets with Richard Widmark is playing on Tchoupitoulas
> Street?.There is a scene which shows the very neighborhood of the theater.
> Kate gives me a look?it is understood that we do not speak during the movie.
>
> Afterwards in the street, she looks around the neighborhood. 'Yes, it is
> certified now.'
>
> She refers to a phenomenon of moviegoing which I have called
> certification. Nowadays when a person lives somewhere, in a neighborhood,
> the place is not certified for him. More than likely he will live there
> sadly and the emptiness which is inside him will expand until it evacuates
> the entire neighborhood. But if he sees a movie which shows his very
> neighborhood, it becomes possible for him to live, for a time at least, as
> a person who is Somewhere and not Anywhere."
>
> ?Walker Percy, The Moviegoer
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