Re: Latinisms: did you find anything useful?

Jonathan Robie (74144.2360@CompuServe.COM)
08 Sep 96 18:48:25 EDT

> Whenever I see those initials, I think of the old DDR; I was once a
> Mitfahrer stopped at a checkpoint on the highway from Munich to
> Berlin. When I offered my passport to the young lady Vopo, she was
> shocked:"Sind Sie denn wirklich Amerikaner?" In those days, most
> Americans either flew in or out or took the military train to Berlin.

When was that? I lived in West Berlin from 1988 to 1990, and in East Berlin from
1990 to 1995. When I first lived in West Berlin, if I took a train to West
Germany, they would stop the train before coming into the West, and inspect it
with searchlights and dogs, with people carrying machine guns standing by in
case anyone was discovered. I found that a little disagreeable. They were still
a little surprised to see Americans then, but it wasn't a big deal anymore. I
was in a Baptist church in East Berlin, where one person had been jailed, many
had been denied the opportunity to go to college or get good jobs, and several
had had significant confrontations with the Stasi (the East German secret

> I'm glad that division is over with; my driver said, "I just hope I live
> long enough to be able to drive anywhere in Germany without having to
> show a passport."

And now you can drive through most of Europe without showing a passport. My
passport was just about full in 1992, but it isn't that much fuller now. Of
course, Yugoslavia is now farther away than ever...

> I haven't checked BDR--I haven't even checked BDF. Just beginning a new
> semester and spending far too much time even responding to e-mail

Well, since a lot of that time is probably spent responding to *my* e-mail, I'm
very grateful! There's no rush, I'd just be interested in knowing what you find
any time you get around to it.

> watching a marvelous string of Cardinal victories that we hope may lead to
> a pennant and WS after a long drought.

Now *that* I'm not taking any responsibility for (even if I *do* lead a hard
life!). Right now, most of my time is spent with a chainsaw trying to clean up
after Hurricane Fran, which hit us pretty hard here in Durham, NC. In real life
I help people learn how to program object oriented databases and chase after my
wife, two kids, and three dogs, so Greek is taking a hefty chunk out of my spare
time right now...but I'm really enjoying it.

> and I was reminded yesterday by an offline response to what I'd said about
> the verse, "The Son of Man OUX EXEI POU THN KEFALHN KLINHi, which I surmise
> to be a Latinism, for the coresponding Latin would be NON HABET UBI CAPUT

I'm beginning to wonder about Germanisms in Latin. Habet looks a lot like Haben,
and Caput looks a lot like Kaputt. Is Deponat related to the verb deponieren? (I
*hope* you know not to take that seriously ;-> )