b-greek-digest V1 #669

b-greek-digest             Monday, 17 April 1995       Volume 01 : Number 669

In this issue:

        Key Synoptic Problem Texts
        Greek Text files accentuation software 
        Hellenistic Greek Linguistics [Mailing List and Web Pages]
        Re: John 1:13 
        Bibl. intro. textbooks
        Re: Bibl. intro. textbooks


From: Phillip Long <plong@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 00:07:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Key Synoptic Problem Texts


I would like to compile a list of the most troublesome to harmonize 
Synoptic parallels.  What, in your opinion, are the most difficult 
parallels to reconcile?

To tell you the truth, I'm not so much interested in an answer to the 
problems these texts present, just in knowing which ones are the most 



From: Chrisogelos George <geo@prometheus.hol.gr>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 10:40:12 +0200
Subject: Greek Text files accentuation software 

   | Computer based conversion of Greek ASCII single-accent text    |
   | to Greek multi-accent one in various formats (MAC-WIN-DOS).    |

Since 1992 we have developed the software named "TONISMOS", which
converts an ASCII single - accent Greek file, to an ASCII multi - accent
Greek one. The single - accent Greek writing is valid since 1981, the
multi - accent one has been used for more than 1100 years. This program
(software) works as the connecting link between the new way of Greek
writing and the old one, with which millions of pages have been written
and some are still writing.

Is unique and has been distinguished as an innovation, from the Greek
Organization for the Small and Medium Enterprises (EOMMEX).
It is used by the Greek Parliament and many professionals in publish market,
from private schools, culture Institutions etc.

We believe that this tool could be very useful to the Institutions -
Universities which are occupied with the study of Greek culture and language;
thus below we explain  the general idea and the operation of this Program:

The conversion is more than 99,7% correct for modern Greek(demotic) and more
than 99% correct for purified Greek; it is succeeded on an ASCII
level, by corresponding the following ASCII characters to the Greek
accent symbols, which are placed in certain positions before the Greek
            |   *     smooth breathing (PSILI)           |
            |   ^     rough breathing (DASEIA)           |
            |   @     acute accent (OXEIA)               |
            |   |     grave accent  (VAREIA)             |
            |   ~     circumflex accent (PERISPOMENI)    |
            |   $     iota subscript (HYPOGEGRAMMENI)    |

The conversion is based on the purified Greek language Grammar
(katharevousa A. Jarjanou ) and also on the modern Greek language
Grammar (demotic). Thus, using an option, a conversion of an ASCII -
single - accent Greek file can be achieved, whether this file is an old
or a modern single - accent Greek document.

- -----------------------------
The following accents are placed before vowels, rough - accent is also placed
before the Greek "r".

          *@$   for smooth - acute - w/iota     
          *|$   for smooth - grave - w/iota      
          ^@$   for rough - acute - w/iota      
          ^|$   for rough - grave - w/iota         
          *~$   for smooth - circumflex - w/iota      
          ^~$   for rough - circumflex - w/iota         

                *@    for smooth - acute
                *|      for smooth - grave
                ^@   for rough - acute 
                ^|     for rough - grave  
                *~    smooth - circumflex   
                ^~    rough - circumflex      

                *$    smooth - w/iota     
                ^$    rough - w/iota         
                @$    acute - w/iota       
                |$    grave - w/iota        
                ~$    circumflex - w/iota        

                *     smooth breathing (PSILI)
                ^     rough breathing (DASEIA)
                @     acute accent (OXEIA)
                |     grave accent  (VAREIA)
                ~     circumflex accent (PERISPOMENI)
                $     iota subscript (HYPOGEGRAMMENI)

- --------
There are various filters which translate the multi - accent created ASCII
file to the multi - accent format of many desktop Publishing Programs
and Word Processors for IBM Compatible & Macintosh computers.
Such as :
Macintosh, WordPerfect (DOS Version 5.1),  WordPerfect (Windows Version),
Word 2.0 - 6.0, 3B2 Desktop Publishing, Grafeas, Chiwriter, Quadset Polytonic,
Pagemaker and all the programs running under windows which use the Greek
multi - accent True Type fonts of Magenta (MgPolOptima, MgnewTimes
etc...). We can provide the Greek multi-accent fonts also.

- --------
The Software "TONISMOS", uses modern technologies (computer, software)
to publish multi - accent Greek documents, using the nowadays single -
accent way of writing.

The user (publisher, author), needs not to know the complicated multi -
accent Greek Grammar; the software "TONISMOS", is doing the conversion
for him; in spite of that, he can use already written resources for
conversion and publish them into the multi - accent Greeks.

Reduction of the time required for electronic publishing; and reduction
of cost. Because is easier and quicker to write in the single - accent
Greek language.

Compatibility with all the electronic publishing machines.
Because of the ASCII multi - accent output,  the multi -accent file
can be imported to every machine which is able to read ASCII files.
Filters have been developed so that various formats can be supported
(True-Type, ATM, DOS multi-accent characters).

Hardware Requirements
- ---------------------
IBM Compatible Personal Computer, with 640 Kb RAM, 537 Kb
RAM free for the software to run in DOS environment or in a Ms-DOS
Window, plus 1,3 Mbytes disk space for program installation.

Conversion Speed:
- -----------------
On a 486dx - 66Mhz Computer, on a hard-disk 10 msec, a 100.000 Kbytes
single-accent ASCII Greek file, written in the purified Greek language
(katharevousa), is converted in a multi -accent ASCII one in 5 min.

- --------------------------------
A separate program is provided which can print and show on the screen the
multi - accent file using the multi -accent vowels. Through this, using a
function key, we can have access to the multi - accent ASCII file.
This part is not necessary as the view of the file is achieved through
the various word-processors.

- ---
The price of the software "TONISMOS", including the converter, the filters,
and the view utility, plus the mailing of all the upgrades during a year,
is 1.275 US$. We can also supply you with 3 multi - accent (polytonic)
Greek True Type and ATM fonts, for Windows, including a driver for
multi-accent Greek writing in the price of 272 US$.
The price includes the cost of the mail.

Calymnou 16,
172 37 Daphne,
Tel: +30 (01) 92.51.154
e-mail : geo@prometheus.hol.gr

PS : Please send this information file to anyone which would be interested in,
through e-mail.


From: "James K. Tauber" <jtauber@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 00:08:58 +0800 (WST)
Subject: Hellenistic Greek Linguistics [Mailing List and Web Pages]

I announced all this some 3 1/2 months on b-greek but as I'm sure there 
are a number of you who are new since then, I thought I'd repeat the 
announcement. I hope those people who read the original will forgive this 
repeat posting.

- ---
ANNOUNCING: Hellenistic Greek Linguistics on the Internet

I am pleased to announce new resources designed to bring together 
scholars interested in the study of Hellenistic (including 
New Testament) Greek Linguistics.

These resources include World Wide Web pages (accessible with such 
programs as Lynx, Mosaic and Netscape) as well as a mailing list. As well 
as general discussion, the list (which is archived on the Web pages) 
provides a forum for discussing the new reference grammar planned as a 
complete revision of Blass, Debrunner and Funk's standard work.

The Web pages include bibliographies and a (small) electronic 
archive of papers.

To browse the Web pages, go to the URL:


To subscribe to the mailing list, send a request to:


and to send a message to the entire list, write to:


Please feel free to make enquires to jtauber@tartarus.uwa.edu.au

James K. Tauber <jtauber@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
4th year Honours Student, Centre for Linguistics
Computing Assistant, University Computing Services
University of Western Australia, Perth, AUSTRALIA


From: "Bart D. Ehrman" <BARTUNC@uncmvs.oit.unc.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 95 18:45 EST
Subject: Re: John 1:13 

   On the textual variant in John 1:13, may I refer you to
my discussion in _The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture_
(NY: Oxford, 1993) 26-27, 59?  I discuss there precisely the
issues you (Kent Sutorius) raise.

   In this instance it appears that Tertullian, who accused
the Valentinians of manipulating the text, had himself done so --
or at least a like minded scribe or two who produced some of the
texts that he used did so.  The variant is now found in only one

- -- Bart D. Ehrman, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill


From: "James D. Ernest" <ernest@mv.mv.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 19:51:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bibl. intro. textbooks

I would be interested in evaluations of the following texts by anyone
who has used them, or has contemplated using them, in an introductory
course for undergraduates:

- --J. Christiaan Beker.  The New Testament: A Thematic Approach
- --Bernhard W. Anderson.  Understanding the Old Testament

- -----------------------------------------------------------------
James D. Ernest                            Joint Doctoral Program
Manchester, New Hampshire, USA      Andover-Newton/Boston College
Internet: ernest@mv.mv.com           Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts


From: Doug Palmer <palmer@pcatsc.jud.fed.us>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 19:56:23 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Bibl. intro. textbooks

> I would be interested in evaluations of the following texts by anyone
> who has used them, or has contemplated using them, in an introductory
> course for undergraduates:
> --Bernhard W. Anderson.  Understanding the Old Testament

I can only respond as a student -- this one was a bit pricey,
but well worth it. It is a "standard" for me when I go back for info
on the OT and for its excellent bibliography. Well written, and not
too difficult to understand. I would recommend it to anyone.

Hope this is what you are looking for. I also recommend Walter Brueggemann
for his OT works.



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