Matth.24:7&11

bertdehaan at gosympatico.ca bertdehaan at gosympatico.ca
Sat Dec 7 13:39:45 EST 2002



> 
> From: "Iver Larsen" <iver_larsen at sil.org>
> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:58:33 +0300
> To: Biblical Greek <b-greek at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Subject: [b-greek] RE: Matth.24:7&11
> 
> > Matth.24:7 EGERQHSETAI GAR EQNOS EPI EQNOS KAI BASILEIA EPIBASILEIAN...
> > Matth.24:11 KAI POLLOI YEUDOPROFHTAI EGERQHSONTAI...
> > The verbs in these passages are both in the future passive tense.
> > The transtations I checked transtate these something like "will
> > rise" or "will arise" instead of "will be raised.
> > What would be the reason for this.
> > If it were translated in the passive tense, it could indicate
> > that God's hand causes nation to rise against nation and false
> > prophets to arise.
> >
> > Bert de Haan
> 
> And then in 24:24 God will also be raising up false Christs to deceive, if
> possible, even the chosen ones????? Luckily, most Bible translators are
> guided by context more than what they may or may not have learned in a Greek
> grammar class. Although these verbs have traditionally been termed passive,
> they are better understood as MP forms where it is a contextual
> interpretation whether the sense is middle or passive.
I was trying to translate what the Greek says and not change the result in order for me to make sense of it. I had no intentions to come up with some doctrine based on my translation, so I posted the question on B-Greek. Thank you for answering.
> 
> Have you read Carl's paper?
I tried to open the site he offered but all I ended up with was an empty screen. I must have done something wrong, but I did't want to bother anyone with my limited computer skills.(I didn't have any trouble downloading something else from his site) You could also check the archives from October
> and November last year. A search for "Middle" will give you a lot of
> postings to chew on. This included discussion of ANISTHMI and EGEIRW.
I will do that.
> 
> Iver Larsen
> SIL Translation Consultant
> 
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