Future Passive Indicatives in NT (Correction)

Peter Kirk prkirk at pmbx.net
Tue Dec 10 22:52:05 EST 2002


I did the same search as Iver with the same 286 results. But are quite a
lot of words including the string QHSE, QHSH or QHSO which are not
future passive. I found the following 32 by a quick run through, not
necessarily exhaustive: QHSEI x2 (already found), QHSEIS, EPIQHSEI,
EPIQHSETAI, EPIQHSOUSIN, KAQHSESQE x2, HKOLOUQHSEN x8, AKOLOUQHSEIS,
AKOLOUQHSOUSIN, EPAKOLOUQHSHTE, EPHKOLOUQHSEN, EXAKOLOUQHSOUSIN,
PARAKOLOUQHSEI, BOHQHSON x2, EBOHQHSEN x2, PENQHSETE, PEPOIQHSEI x4,
AISQHSEI. If we deduct these 32 from Paul's 296, we get only 264 future
passive indicatives with -QHS-. This suggests that a simple string
search is not a good way to find a grammatical category.

This also suggests that the Friberg tags (286 passsives including
"deponent") mark about 22 verbs as future passive which do not include
-QHS-, though of course it might be arguable whether they are really
passive. And I have found some: ANOIGHSETAI x4, EKTRAPHSONTAI,
ENTRAPHSONTAI x3, FANHSETAI x5, DARHSETAI, DARHSESQE, SUNTRIBHSETAI,
METASTRAFHSETAI, EKKOPHSHi, KATAKAHSETAI, hUPOTAGHSETAI, hUPOTAGHSOMEQA,
ALLAGHSOMEQA x2, ALLAGHSONTAI, FRAGHSETAI, hARPAGHSOMEQA, FQARHSONTAI,
ANAPAHSONTAI, EPANAPAHSETAI. Well, that's 28 but maybe not every
occurrence is actually marked as future passive.

Note ANOIG[HS]ETAI in Luke 11:10, the ambiguity here may explain some
discrepancies.

There is one future passive participle, in Hebrews 3:5, which is the
only non-indicative future passive.

Peter Kirk
peter.r.kirk at ntlworld.com
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
  
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul S Dixon [mailto:dixonps at juno.com] 
Sent: 11 December 2002 09:11
To: Biblical Greek
Cc: b-greek at franklin.metalab.unc.edu
Subject: [b-greek] Re: Future Passive Indicatives in NT (Correction)

 
 
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:38:52 -0600 Paul S Dixon <dixonps at juno.com>
writes:
 
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:37:50 +0300 "Iver Larsen" <iver_larsen at sil.org>
writes:
> >
> > At 9:49 AM -0600 12/10/02, Paul S Dixon wrote:
> > >I did a count of the future passive indicatives in the NT (Logos
> > >software) and came up with 296 hits (*QHSO* or *QHSE* or *QHSH* 
> and not
> > >*QHSIO*).
> > >
> > >Anybody get a different count?
> >
> > Accordance shows 297 hits for future passive (QHSe/o)
> > morphoparadigm--pretty close. Now, the question is how many of 
> these
> > actually have a passive SENSE?
> > --
> 
> The Friberg tags have 276 verbs marked indicative, future passive, 
> and 10
> marked indicative, future, passive deponent (like the verb 
> APOKRINOMAI). I
> found it difficult to search for *QHSE*, because that search in my 
> database
> will include forms like QHSEI, the future active of TIQHMI.
 
That makes your total 286, I believe.  But, both yours and Carl's
searches omit QHSHi (2nd person singular form).  In addition, yours
omitted the QHSO form.  Mine included both of them; hence, my total of
296 might be more accurate ( I assume Carl's search missed one 2nd
person singular form in the NT).
 
I just ran a search with my above parameters, plus an additional and not
QHSEI.  I got the same count: 296.  Apparently QHSEI does not occur in
the NT.

Oops, correction.  It does occur once in Matthew and once in Luke.  A
more accurate count yet is 294.  Or, so it seems.
 
Paul Dixon
 
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