Ge'enna & 'ades
jhonhar at juno.com
jhonhar at juno.com
Mon May 13 20:24:31 EDT 2002
Here is a comparison I did on the NIV and the KJV. Comparison was made
using Strongs Cond. and matching the NIV to KJV.
John Carras
jhonhar at juno.com
On Mon, 13 May 2002 19:40:50 -0400 "Carl W. Conrad"
<cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu> writes:
> At 6:22 PM +0000 5/13/02, Mark Wilson wrote:
> >Just a brief observation here:
> >
> >>hADHS hades, hell (10)
> >> Matt. 11:23 hUYWQHSH? hEWS hAiDOU KATABHSHi
> >> Matt. 16:18 EKKLHSIAN KAI PULAI hAiDOU OU KATISCUSOUSIN
> AUTHS
> >> Luke 10:15 hEWS OURANOU hUYWQHSH? hEWS hAiDOU KATABHSHi
> >> Luke 16:23 KAI EN TWi hAiDHi EPARAS TOUS OFQALMOUS
> >> Acts 2:27 YUCHN MOU EIS hAiDHN OUDE DWSEIS TON ...
> >> Acts 2:31 OUTE EGKATELEIFQH EIS hAiDHN OUTE hH SARX ...
> >> Rev. 1:18 TAS KLEIS TOU QANATOU KAI TOU hAiDOU
> >> Rev. 6:8 QANATOS, KAI hO hAiDHS HKOLOUQEI MET' AUTOU
> >> Rev. 20:13 QANATOS KAI hO hAiDHS EDWKAN TOUS NEKROUS
> >> Rev. 20:14 QANATOS KAI hO hAiDHS EBLHQHSAN EIS THN ...
> >>
> >
> >
> >You will note that all these references are related to the OT.
> >
> >In the OT, you had Sheol, which corresponds to hADES in the NT.
> >Sheol was comprised of all the dead, both righteous and
> unrighteous,
> >but after Christ lead captivity away, Sheol no longer seems to
> have
> >a compartment for the righteous. That is, in the OT, the redeemed
> >went to Abraham's bosom; in the NT, the redeemed go immediately
> >into the presence of the Lord.
> >
> >In the OT, the redeemed expected to depart to Abraham's bosom,
> >where they awaited the resurrection at the final day.
> >
> >The parable of the rich man and Lazarus shows these two
> >compartments. And some argue that the wicked demons
> >that are in Tartarus were yet in another compartment
> >within the Sheol complex.
>
> This isn't so much wrong as it oversimplifies a considerably more
> complex
> picture For one thing, Tartarus belongs to Greek cultural notions,
> not
> Hebraic ones, and in some instances hAiDHS seems to be a metaphor
> for
> death. I would simply suggest that those concerned with this issue
> check
> what BDAG and Louw & Nida offer for hAiDHS.
> -
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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