Ge'enna & 'ades
jhonhar at juno.com
jhonhar at juno.com
Mon May 13 21:18:59 EDT 2002
Dear b-greek--
> Here is a comparison as an attachment I did on the NIV and the KJV.
Comparison was
> made
> using Strongs Cond. and matching the NIV to KJV.
> John Carras
> jhonhar at juno.com
>
> On Mon, 13 May 2002 19:40:50 -0400 "Carl W. Conrad"
> <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu> writes:
> > At 6:22 PM +0000 5/13/02, Mark Wilson wrote:
> > >Just a brief observation here:
> > >
> > >>hADHS hades, hell (10)
> > >> Matt. 11:23 hUYWQHSH? hEWS hAiDOU KATABHSHi
> > >> Matt. 16:18 EKKLHSIAN KAI PULAI hAiDOU OU
> KATISCUSOUSIN
> > AUTHS
> > >> Luke 10:15 hEWS OURANOU hUYWQHSH? hEWS hAiDOU
> KATABHSHi
> > >> Luke 16:23 KAI EN TWi hAiDHi EPARAS TOUS OFQALMOUS
> > >> Acts 2:27 YUCHN MOU EIS hAiDHN OUDE DWSEIS TON ...
> > >> Acts 2:31 OUTE EGKATELEIFQH EIS hAiDHN OUTE hH SARX
> ...
> > >> Rev. 1:18 TAS KLEIS TOU QANATOU KAI TOU hAiDOU
> > >> Rev. 6:8 QANATOS, KAI hO hAiDHS HKOLOUQEI MET' AUTOU
> > >> Rev. 20:13 QANATOS KAI hO hAiDHS EDWKAN TOUS NEKROUS
> > >> Rev. 20:14 QANATOS KAI hO hAiDHS EBLHQHSAN EIS THN
> ...
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >You will note that all these references are related to the OT.
> > >
> > >In the OT, you had Sheol, which corresponds to hADES in the NT.
> > >Sheol was comprised of all the dead, both righteous and
> > unrighteous,
> > >but after Christ lead captivity away, Sheol no longer seems to
> > have
> > >a compartment for the righteous. That is, in the OT, the
> redeemed
> > >went to Abraham's bosom; in the NT, the redeemed go immediately
> > >into the presence of the Lord.
> > >
> > >In the OT, the redeemed expected to depart to Abraham's bosom,
> > >where they awaited the resurrection at the final day.
> > >
> > >The parable of the rich man and Lazarus shows these two
> > >compartments. And some argue that the wicked demons
> > >that are in Tartarus were yet in another compartment
> > >within the Sheol complex.
> >
> > This isn't so much wrong as it oversimplifies a considerably more
>
> > complex
> > picture For one thing, Tartarus belongs to Greek cultural notions,
>
> > not
> > Hebraic ones, and in some instances hAiDHS seems to be a metaphor
>
> > for
> > death. I would simply suggest that those concerned with this issue
>
> > check
> > what BDAG and Louw & Nida offer for hAiDHS.
> > -
> >
> > Carl W. Conrad
> > Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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> >
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